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William Gaatjes

William Gaatjes

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I come to the conclusion again as i do every time i watch a startrek movie.
I hate klingons and find them incredibly boring. Bunch of k'pekts.
 
Chaotic42

Chaotic42

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Yeah, the Cardassians or whatever are more interesting. DS9 was the best Star Trek creation.
 
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T9D

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I agree I hate the whole Klingon race and most characters (Worf is awesome though). Love the boob cleavage however. But that's like a trap....like looking at a tasty bowl of candy set in a bear trap surrounded by dog poop.
 
William Gaatjes

William Gaatjes

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T9D said:
I agree I hate the whole Klingon race and most characters (Worf is awesome though). Love the boob cleavage however. But that's like a trap....like looking at a tasty bowl of candy set in a bear trap surrounded by dog poop.
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Yeah Worf was okay. At least he did not come up with weird klingon songs and klingon opera all the time. Or weird klingon food like : RACHT, living worms.

Klingon females are like those vampire girls from " From dusk till dawn".
A lot of cleavage but those horrible teeth and faces.
 
William Gaatjes

William Gaatjes

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What a wonderful life , watching ds9 while eating chocolate custard with whipped cream. And a cookie. God, i have it good. ^_^
 
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Captante said:
Final season = my favorite Trek

The whole series was pretty good though.
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I liked the first few seasons, but as soon as they start the arc in season 4 or 5 (don't remember which), the series really starts taking it up a notch.

The last season is ridiculously good. Easily my favorite season of any Trek, too.
 
Ruptga

Ruptga

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The worst thing about DS9 is the Bajoran mysticism, and even that is usually tolerable. The best parts usually involve Quark or Garak, but the series has a lot of good characters. And the series really takes on a life of its own after the first season or two.
 
Sonikku

Sonikku

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I thought DS9 had some great Klingon episodes. Way of the Warrior was excellent, as was the one with the Da Har master in it.
 
Ruptga

Ruptga

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shadow9d9 said:
Only if you like every plot, including entire arcs being ended with something swooping in and saving the day, corny acting, and terrible production values. Babylon 5 is really, really bad.
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Says you. Most everyone else that has seen it disagrees. Its plots were well written and intertwined, acting was fine, and the production values were actually good. Of course the CG is dated, in particular one episode involving the Centauri and some technomancers, but practically everyone agrees that the first four seasons are very good.
 
cronos

cronos

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Ruptga said:
The worst thing about DS9 is the Bajoran mysticism, and even that is usually tolerable. The best parts usually involve Quark or Garak, but the series has a lot of good characters. And the series really takes on a life of its own after the first season or two.
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What's so bad about Bajoran mysticism? It ties really tightly with the wormhole and the wormhole alien, and the story comes full circle at the series finale.
 
Ruptga

Ruptga

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cronos said:
What's so bad about Bajoran mysticism? It ties really tightly with the wormhole and the wormhole alien, and the story comes full circle at the series finale.
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Yeah it does, but I found the finale pretty hokey so that's not super convincing for me. It has been a couple years since I saw the series, but generally
I liked the Prophets more when they were wormhole aliens and less when they were BSG style pseudo-gods. More specifically, it felt like Dukat was, out of the blue, suddenly shoehorned into being a cheap lucifer figure because they wanted the series to go out on an epic note. Until the finale (or close to then) I thought their treatment of the Bajoran religion was at least decent because it had some credibility even to a strictly scientific mind, but then it just devolved into cliches.
 
cronos

cronos

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Ruptga said:
Yeah it does, but I found the finale pretty hokey so that's not super convincing for me. It has been a couple years since I saw the series, but generally
I liked the Prophets more when they were wormhole aliens and less when they were BSG style pseudo-gods. More specifically, it felt like Dukat was, out of the blue, suddenly shoehorned into being a cheap lucifer figure because they wanted the series to go out on an epic note. Until the finale (or close to then) I thought their treatment of the Bajoran religion was at least decent because it had some credibility even to a strictly scientific mind, but then it just devolved into cliches.
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Got it. I thought it was something like that. I personally had zero problem with
how they treated the wormhole alien story, while I do agree with you that Dukat went absolutely mad was sort of an 'easy way out' to end his story, as he was a pretty complex and interesting character.
 
Ruptga

Ruptga

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cronos said:
Got it. I thought it was something like that. I personally had zero problem with
how they treated the wormhole alien story, while I do agree with you that Dukat went absolutely mad was sort of an 'easy way out' to end his story, as he was a pretty complex and interesting character.
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Gah, I know,
and that makes it even worse. He wasn't as interesting as, say, Quark, but he was an interesting character and he had real depth. The bits with his daughter and then him being on the run fighting the Klingons were especially good.
 
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