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Geekbabe

Moderator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
Oct 16, 1999
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www.theshoppinqueen.com
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Ok, question. Do the mods here get paid?
And can LoKe be unbanned?

NO.
LoKe would still be a member here if he was more mature about how he handled the exploit. He was to impatient about how quickly it was being handled and we all know things move at a snails pace around here.

Thankyou, but I would STRONGLY disagree in rewarding a hacker in any way shape or form.

That's BS, IMO. Hackers are very necessary for the internet, and computing. There are different kinds of hackers, good ones and bad ones.

The good ones hack into and exploit security holes so that they can discovered and fixed. The bad ones exploit security holes for their own purposes.

Hackers are not bad.

leaving a polite footprint as a calling card is good.. threatening folks with harm is not.

As fun as all this is,I'm in the midst of beginning to pack in preparation of our upcoming move. :)
 

kevnich2

Platinum Member
Apr 10, 2004
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Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: Skacer
Originally posted by: kevnich2
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There are a few of the Senior Moderators that felt the need to remain cloaked.

They have created an account for Moderation purposes when the decision was made to open up our identities to the community.

Senior Anandtech Moderator
Common Courtesy

Err, that seems to defeat the entire point of public moderators? Must be some real interesting reasons for the majority of moderators to become public while a select few hide behind second accounts. Ah well. You guys can do whatever you want, but for it to not look odd is nearly impossible, as this thread clearly demonstrates.

The forum guidelines state that ALL moderators identities will now be public, not their newly-created identities!

I feel the same way. Why make moderator identities public and yet, your still hiding "some" by creating new accounts. It defeats the entire point??
 

Safeway

Lifer
Jun 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: manowar821
That's BS, IMO. Hackers are very necessary for the internet, and computing. There are different kinds of hackers, good ones and bad ones.

The good ones hack into and exploit security holes so that they can discovered and fixed. The bad ones exploit security holes for their own purposes.

Hackers are not bad.

You just said that there are two types or hackers, good and bad, or white and blackhat. You then said that hackers are not bad, without any sort of qualifier. Loke's move was a bit gray ... he notified the admin team that an exploit existed, and that's where things needed to stop.
 

markgm

Diamond Member
Aug 23, 2001
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I'd like to see Loke come back, he had good posts. And it does seem odd for some mods to have 2 accounts, but c'est la vie.
 

CPA

Elite Member
Nov 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Shawn
They should remove the other titles like Elite Member and just have it say Senior Moderator.

I'm an Elite, but not a moderator.
 

jman19

Lifer
Nov 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: TallBill
This thread is like heroine, I just cant stay away. I agree that I dislike some mods stayin hidden, but whatever.

What time is it in Baghdad? ... And, do you sleep?

I'm 8 hours ahead of Eastern time. Right now its 6:13 PM. I usually work nights, which means I go to bed around 7-11 AM, which puts me on almost identical schedule with my wife.

Of course, randomly we'll work during the day or afternoon, so its impossible to keep a schedule. Right now it seems that I work 3-4 12-16 hour days a week, and the rest are very boring.

I do sleep, but sometimes not for 24 hour stretches :p

Out of curiosity, what do you do in Baghdad (as in, what is your function for the US military)?
 

manowar821

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2007
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Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: manowar821
That's BS, IMO. Hackers are very necessary for the internet, and computing. There are different kinds of hackers, good ones and bad ones.

The good ones hack into and exploit security holes so that they can discovered and fixed. The bad ones exploit security holes for their own purposes.

Hackers are not bad.

You just said that there are two types or hackers, good and bad, or white and blackhat. You then said that hackers are not bad, without any sort of qualifier. Loke's move was a bit gray ... he notified the admin team that an exploit existed, and that's where things needed to stop.

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Ok, question. Do the mods here get paid?
And can LoKe be unbanned?

NO.
LoKe would still be a member here if he was more mature about how he handled the exploit. He was to impatient about how quickly it was being handled and we all know things move at a snails pace around here.

Thankyou, but I would STRONGLY disagree in rewarding a hacker in any way shape or form.

That's BS, IMO. Hackers are very necessary for the internet, and computing. There are different kinds of hackers, good ones and bad ones.

The good ones hack into and exploit security holes so that they can discovered and fixed. The bad ones exploit security holes for their own purposes.

Hackers are not bad.

leaving a polite footprint as a calling card is good.. threatening folks with harm is not.

As fun as all this is,I'm in the midst of beginning to pack in preparation of our upcoming move. :)

I understand that, I should have clarified what I was responding to. I was speaking strictly of hackers. Not of this specific member.

It seemed the person I responded to originally was speaking strictly of hackers, too.

:)
 

EagleKeeper

Discussion Club Moderator<br>Elite Member
Staff member
Oct 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: kevnich2
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: Skacer
Originally posted by: kevnich2
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There are a few of the Senior Moderators that felt the need to remain cloaked.

They have created an account for Moderation purposes when the decision was made to open up our identities to the community.

Senior Anandtech Moderator
Common Courtesy

Err, that seems to defeat the entire point of public moderators? Must be some real interesting reasons for the majority of moderators to become public while a select few hide behind second accounts. Ah well. You guys can do whatever you want, but for it to not look odd is nearly impossible, as this thread clearly demonstrates.

The forum guidelines state that ALL moderators identities will now be public, not their newly-created identities!

I feel the same way. Why make moderator identities public and yet, your still hiding "some" by creating new accounts. It defeats the entire point??

The original identities are not being used for Moderation.

The decision to create a new identity was discussed about among the Senior Moderators and Administration.

It was accepted that even though it would be nice for the original names to be known as Moderators, there were professional and personal reasons for such decisions that required otherwise.

 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Shawn
They should remove the other titles like Elite Member and just have it say Senior Moderator.

I'm an Elite, but not a moderator.

I think he means instead of say:

Red Dawn
Elite Member
Senior Moderator

make it simply

Red Dawn
Senior Moderator
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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Do the mods keep a record of who has done how many bans? Is there a record for banningest mod, akin to a winningest coach in sports? :evil:
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: kevnich2
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: Skacer
Originally posted by: kevnich2
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There are a few of the Senior Moderators that felt the need to remain cloaked.

They have created an account for Moderation purposes when the decision was made to open up our identities to the community.

Senior Anandtech Moderator
Common Courtesy

Err, that seems to defeat the entire point of public moderators? Must be some real interesting reasons for the majority of moderators to become public while a select few hide behind second accounts. Ah well. You guys can do whatever you want, but for it to not look odd is nearly impossible, as this thread clearly demonstrates.

The forum guidelines state that ALL moderators identities will now be public, not their newly-created identities!

I feel the same way. Why make moderator identities public and yet, your still hiding "some" by creating new accounts. It defeats the entire point??

The original identities are not being used for Moderation.

The decision to create a new identity was discussed about among the Senior Moderators and Administration.

It was accepted that even though it would be nice for the original names to be known as Moderators, there were professional and personal reasons for such decisions that required otherwise.

First of all I don't care either way if I know who the mods are. However if the purpose of making the mods names known was to fix the rift or mistrust between members and mods, as it says in the forum issues post, then creating new mod accounts to hide behind completely defeats this purpose.
 

Evadman

Administrator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
Feb 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Kev
First of all I don't care either way if I know who the mods are. However if the purpose of making the mods names known was to fix the rift or mistrust between members and mods, as it says in the forum issues post, then creating new mod accounts to hide behind completely defeats this purpose.

There is no join between the past and the future unless a specific mod wishes to reveal it. In future state, everyone will know that Common Courtesy gave a vacation to a member. There is absolutely no reason that Common Courtesy needs to state that Common Courtesy banned so and so on a certain date for a certain infraction if it was in the past before we rolled out the new guidelines. That would serve no useful purpose.
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The original identities are not being used for Moderation.
But are the original identities being used at all? If so, they're in direct violation of the 1-account-only rule.
 

Skacer

Banned
Jun 4, 2007
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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The original identities are not being used for Moderation.

Why would it matter whether you moderate with your original identity? You can still post with it. Which puts you in the same situation every moderator was in previously w/ the Anandtech Moderator account. Given that, why have any of the moderators made public if some are still hiding behind the same exact situation that existed previously.

Professional reasons why you would need 2 identities on a tech forum.... Your first identity ties you to Tom from Tom's Hardware? Or the guys from H? Or you work for a company that makes a very specific product, one you might feel bias towards, which would make you a poor moderator candidate in that specific forum anyways. You wouldn't want guys from nVidia moderating the Video forum for clearly obvious reasons.
 

olds

Elite Member
Mar 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Shawn
They should remove the other titles like Elite Member and just have it say Senior Moderator.

I'm an Elite, but not a moderator.

I think he means instead of say:

Red Dawn
Elite Member
Senior Moderator

make it simply

Red Dawn
Senior Moderator

I concur.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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When this all started I didn't care whom was or wasn't, and anyone that wanted to be one or one that is for the purpose of being something special, thanks for contributing to humanity's problem.


The gestapo angle I do find interesting though.
 

Pliablemoose

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy


It was accepted that even though it would be nice for the original names to be known as Moderators, there were professional and personal reasons for such decisions that required otherwise.

:music: Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss :music:

I mean seriously, what possible personal or professional reasons could there be?

The secret mod stuff gave us an actively hallucinating dennilfloss as a mod.

Sorry, dennil, but it's true.

 
Nov 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: Safeway
I thought the point of revealing the identities of the moderators was to force some accountability. If that is true, why are certain mods still cloaking their identity?

RossMAN? Mosh?

I agree...either the mods should go public or should have resigned. Creating an alternate account IMO is hypocrtical.
 

ThePresence

Elite Member
Nov 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: Safeway
I thought the point of revealing the identities of the moderators was to force some accountability. If that is true, why are certain mods still cloaking their identity?

RossMAN? Mosh?

I agree...either the mods should go public or should have resigned. Creating an alternate account IMO is hypocrtical.

Does it really matter? I know it doesn't, to me. At the end of the day mods are mods. They are there, watching us. :) Does it really matter if you know who they are or not?
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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ahh man. now i guess i have to be nice those guys eh?


sigh i suck at guessing who was amod. i knew of Red and geekbabe. but damn the rest i didn't know. sigh
 

Skacer

Banned
Jun 4, 2007
727
0
0
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Does it really matter? I know it doesn't, to me. At the end of the day mods are mods. They are there, watching us. :) Does it really matter if you know who they are or not?

I kind of assumed this would mean accountability to some degree. If I'm having an argument with Frank about cardboard boxes and Bob bans me, it kind of sucks when the reality is that Bob was Frank's alternate moderator account. As opposed to Frank manning up and banning me in the middle of our argument. Which would look clearly odd since he was partaking in the argument.
 
Nov 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: Safeway
I thought the point of revealing the identities of the moderators was to force some accountability. If that is true, why are certain mods still cloaking their identity?

RossMAN? Mosh?

I agree...either the mods should go public or should have resigned. Creating an alternate account IMO is hypocrtical.

Does it really matter? I know it doesn't, to me. At the end of the day mods are mods. They are there, watching us. :) Does it really matter if you know who they are or not?

it only matters because of the big deal made about revealing their identities To reveal all but a select few is hypocritical IMHO.
 

Pepsi90919

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Originally posted by: kevnich2
Originally posted by: Safeway
Originally posted by: Skacer
Originally posted by: kevnich2
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There are a few of the Senior Moderators that felt the need to remain cloaked.

They have created an account for Moderation purposes when the decision was made to open up our identities to the community.

Senior Anandtech Moderator
Common Courtesy

Err, that seems to defeat the entire point of public moderators? Must be some real interesting reasons for the majority of moderators to become public while a select few hide behind second accounts. Ah well. You guys can do whatever you want, but for it to not look odd is nearly impossible, as this thread clearly demonstrates.

The forum guidelines state that ALL moderators identities will now be public, not their newly-created identities!

I feel the same way. Why make moderator identities public and yet, your still hiding "some" by creating new accounts. It defeats the entire point??

The original identities are not being used for Moderation.

The decision to create a new identity was discussed about among the Senior Moderators and Administration.

It was accepted that even though it would be nice for the original names to be known as Moderators, there were professional and personal reasons for such decisions that required otherwise.

so now we play the game of matching the real member to their pseudonym.