Washington Post: Bowe Bergdahl Faces Charges of Desertion

[cabri]

We didn't break any laws, we did exactly what nations are supposed to do at the end of a conflict, exchange POWs.

Obama broke our own law;

And has the conflict ended - NO.

We still have people in Afghanistan and dying in combat.

Nothing is wrong with having a prisoner exchange; however follow the rules and laws for it. That was not done; the exchange was for political reasons.

 

[touchstone]

So we have military members returning from vietnam after admittedly raping and murdering innocent women and children, who aren't prosecuted because 'vietnam isn't our juridiction' and you have CIA coming back from Columbia after being caught raping children and not being prosecuted, and this is the fight you asswipe republicans pick? This guy, a twentysomething year old kid captured by the enemy is the worst criminal you can find to throw your ire at?


You're all pathetic. I'd slap you around myself if I met you.

 

[cabri]

So we have military members returning from vietnam after admittedly raping and murdering innocent women and children, who aren't prosecuted because 'vietnam isn't our juridiction' and you have CIA coming back from Columbia after being caught raping children and not being prosecuted, and this is the fight you asswipe republicans pick? This guy, a twentysomething year old kid captured by the enemy is the worst criminal you can find to throw your ire at?


You're all pathetic. I'd slap you around myself if I met you.

I enjoy your rhetoric and BS bravado.:hmm:

this is a kid that knew what he was doing and now is making up lies to CYA.
He knowingly put people in danger and you want to forgive him.:thumbsdown:

 

[ivwshane]

You are a liar.

Coming from you, it means the opposite. Thanks

 

[rudeguy]

Coming from you, it means the opposite. Thanks

just another time when you think your opinion trumps fact

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...w-with-guantanamo-transfer-for-bowe-bergdahl/

The Obama administration broke the law when it exchanged five Taliban commanders for a captured U.S. soldier without giving Congress 30 days notice, according to a review by the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office.

 

[werepossum]

Bunch of BS

Link - CNN

Agreed. But Bergdahl is a moron, and by definition morons believe, and do, stupid things, so maybe anything is possible. I strongly suspect however that this will be open and shut at trial. And if so, other morons will scream in defense of Obama - who had literally nothing to do with Bergdahl deserting and/or defecting to the Taliban.

 

[Angry Irishman]

His defense is attempting to make his situation an AWOL scenario rather than a desertion.....a big difference in the outcome of the courts martial.

 

[JSt0rm]

Obama broke our own law;

And has the conflict ended - NO.

 

[Jhhnn]

Agreed. But Bergdahl is a moron, and by definition morons believe, and do, stupid things, so maybe anything is possible. I strongly suspect however that this will be open and shut at trial. And if so, other morons will scream in defense of Obama - who had literally nothing to do with Bergdahl deserting and/or defecting to the Taliban.

Always drag Obama into it, even if it's just to acknowledge that you have no business doing so. Nice trick.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Always drag Obama into it, even if it's just to acknowledge that you have no business doing so. Nice trick.

Obama drug himself into it....from the beginning, with the served with honor BS, to the Rose Garden, to a trip by the SECDEF to the Stan to try to pep rally the trade to the unexcited troops. All right after the negative VA reports were being highlighted by media. What were the chances of that timing? Hmmmm

 

[cabri]

Always drag Obama into it, even if it's just to acknowledge that you have no business doing so. Nice trick.

Obama put himself squarely into the role by his publicity stunt

 

[Jhhnn]

His defense is attempting to make his situation an AWOL scenario rather than a desertion.....a big difference in the outcome of the courts martial.

Indeed. So far, there is little to no evidence to the contrary beyond speculation & hearsay.

 

[JSt0rm]

Let it all come out in a court martial. That will be the test of this. The gop will still want to impeach obama for doing this deal but bergdahl should only get the punishment deemed proper by the military and no more.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Too much armchair debate over evidence already shown to be false.

 

[rudeguy]

Indeed. So far, there is little to no evidence to the contrary beyond speculation & hearsay.

Come on man...at least try to educate yourself before opening your mouth.

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2...gdahls-platoon-undercut-his-emerging-defense/

He wrote a goodbye email to his mom and dad
He left his weapon and gear behind

U.S. troops who served alongside Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl on the day he disappeared told CNN that the emerging "whistleblower" defense being prepared for him makes no sense.

Bergdahl's lawyer is making the case that Bergdahl left his post on foot to report his unit for troubling behavior, but his fellow troops say the platoon was already scheduled to drive back to their Forward Operating Base, or FOB, just hours after his disappearance.
"We were literally going back to the FOB Sharana the next day," then-Sgt. Evan Buetow, Bergdahl's team leader, told CNN. "If for whatever reason Bergdahl had complaints, he could have brought them to the attention of senior officers before our five-day mission, or easily could have waited a few more hours till we returned to the FOB."

Then-Specialist Josh Cornelison, the platoon medic, said the base was "a lengthy drive away from" Observation Post Mest, where Bergdahl was last seen by his fellow troops.
"And he wanted to walk back? Knowing full well how many times we'd been blown up on the way there and back? Everyone knew bad dudes were around and watching us move to and from OP Mest," Cornelison said.
Quote:
If Bergdahl waited to return to FOB Sharana he could have used a computer at the Morale, Welfare and Recreation center at Sharana "to send out a mass email to whoever he wanted or he could have used to phones to call any news outlet about the misdeeds that we never committed," he said.
Quote:
in addition to questions as to why Bergdahl would walk on foot to FOB Sharana to report alleged malfeasance instead of waiting a few hours to drive there, his fellow troops note that Bergdahl, against protocol, left his weapon and other equipment behind.

"He was going to violate military protocol to report violations of military protocol?" Full asked. "There are so many ways you can do things like this in the Army. The Army has an open door policy."

Bergdahl also mailed many of his essential items back to the U.S. before disappearing, Full said.

 

[rudeguy]

Always drag Obama into it, even if it's just to acknowledge that you have no business doing so. Nice trick.

yea because we made Obama have a Rose Garden ceremony with the guy after we forced Obama to break laws in the exchange


You really need to get a grip on things. Your shill is overpowering what little brain you have

 

[nickqt]

How dare KingObummer™ make a blanket statement about serving with honor?

IMPEACH NOW!

I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!

 

[cabri]

How dare KingObummer™ make a blanket statement about serving with honor?

IMPEACH NOW!

I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!

He wanted to make political hay; it has backfired on him again.

 

[JSt0rm]

He wanted to make political hay; it has backfired on him again.

What accomplishments has obama made during his time in office?

 

[rudeguy]

What accomplishments has obama made during his time in office?

 

[JSt0rm]

Its a real question. Not a argument at all. I wonder if there are people out there that think he has accomplished nothing in his time. That would be kind of depressing yes? I use to feel that way about bush until i realized he destroyed the middle east on purpose. That was a brilliant move.

 

[rudeguy]

Its a real question. Not a argument at all. I wonder if there are people out there that think he has accomplished nothing in his time. That would be kind of depressing yes? I use to feel that way about bush until i realized he destroyed the middle east on purpose. That was a brilliant move.

You could start a thread about it instead of trying to deflect and hijack this one.

 

[Jhhnn]

Obama put himself squarely into the role by his publicity stunt

Gawd. Much the same was done with POW's returning from Vietnam & probably earlier, as well. I doubt that the White House knew all the facts or they wouldn't have proceeded as they did. So why didn't they know the facts? Where was the Army in that?

As I've pointed out many times & you acknowledge, the Right Wing is just using Bergdahl as a pawn to attack Obama. It's not like Obama used him as a pawn for such scurrilous purposes, but, uhh, never mind, right?

The whole thing at the White House wasn't to puff up Obama but rather to honor those who serve, even if it was inept.

 

[rudeguy]

Gawd. Much the same was done with POW's returning from Vietnam & probably earlier, as well. I doubt that the White House knew all the facts or they wouldn't have proceeded as they did. So why didn't they know the facts? Where was the Army in that?

As I've pointed out many times & you acknowledge, the Right Wing is just using Bergdahl as a pawn to attack Obama. It's not like Obama used him as a pawn for such scurrilous purposes, but, uhh, never mind, right?

The whole thing at the White House wasn't to puff up Obama but rather to honor those who serve, even if it was inept.

Then why didn't he invite some guys who didn't abandon their post?

 

[JSt0rm]

You could start a thread about it instead of trying to deflect and hijack this one.

Im not trying to change your thread. In the free flow of conversation I asked a poster a direct question. He doesnt have to answer it and this little exchange has done more to derail the thread then my initial question.