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irishScott said:
To be fair I sincerely doubt Hillary is lacking in closet skeletons that would equal or surpass Christie's bridge stuff if revealed.

But yeah barring some Dark Horse Republican candidate miraculously surviving the primaries, it's going to be Romney, Jeb or Christie. I think Jeb probably has the best chance of those three, assuming he can distance himself from GW.
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Can you imagine the tabloid sales if Hillary ran for prez?

"Hillary deemed brain dead in stroke 5 years ago, now president of United States, yet best president we've had in three decades, amazing!"
 
irishScott said:
Yeah, just like all of the other realistically viable candidates. 😛 Remember that bullshit line from Hillary about how the Clintons "struggled to pay their mortgages"?
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She said they were broke.


She also said she ran out of a plane dodging sniper fire.
 
loki8481 said:
as far as Republicans go, Jeb would probably actually make a half-decent president if he had any other last name. I don't see him running, though.

don't take this as any form of an endorsement of their politics, but I could see Christie, Bobby Jindal, Rand Paul, Rick Perry, Paul Ryan, or Scott Walker all running decent campaigns... don't ask me how any of them would fare, but I'd say they're probably all top tier candidates compared to the Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Donald Trump circus that was 2012.
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Jeb would act all alpha male at first then the fear of GOD will be instilled into him yet again then he will hand off everything to Bebe.
 
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Sorry I couldn't resist.
 
I couldn't stand Herman Cain as he was pro-tax and didn't realize that 9% flat income tax alone ($1.35Bn total federal tax revenue if GDP is $15Tn) while slashing spending to balance within 3 years was good enough. A 9% VAT, a 9% sales tax, and a 9% income tax without any regulations cut could've given the central govt not less than $2.7Tn in one year.

HW Bush was okay as far as presidents go, but any of his kids in power would be shitty

a Romney State would raise (disproportionately) more revenue as well as spend disproportionately more on bureaucrats and militarism while enforcing a ton of new regulations. Everyone needs tax relief rather than being stolen from.

Joe biden would let a mob rule and would raise taxes while waging war up the ass

everything from Hillary and the dude in NJ would be after the damage had been done

I don't trust Senator Warren or any other populist Democrat

Ben Carson is a neo-con Dr. Hardballs who doesn't understand economics that well
Rand Paul is Dr. Hardballs and a remnant of the supply-siders and the New Right (his father was better as a remnant of the Old Right).
Ron Paul wouldn't survive a day in the White House

so i can't support anyone I believe could run other than Newt.
 
irishScott said:
To be fair I sincerely doubt Hillary is lacking in closet skeletons that would equal or surpass Christie's bridge stuff if revealed.
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She has been under attack by the Right every single day since Bill Clinton declared his candidacy. They even gone so far as accusing Bill and her of taking a man out to a park and shooting him. But every single day she's come out pristine. I wouldn't count on there being skeletons to find.
 
Victorian Gray said:
The attacks from the left are sexist? Any complaints I've seen from her left have all been policy based. Any examples of sexist attacks from her left that you can provide?
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I did not pay attention in recent times, but there are plenty of examples from prominent liberals who attacked Clinton with thinly veiled sexism. (Chris Matthews and his obsession with Clinton's thighs, for example?)
 
lopri said:
I did not pay attention in recent times, but there are plenty of examples from prominent liberals who attacked Clinton with thinly veiled sexism. (Chris Matthews and his obsession with Clinton's thighs, for example?)
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?

The only thing coming to mind vaguely close to that was the thrill up Matthews' legs after hearing Obama speak.
 
You can do a quick google search with "Hillary" and "Sexism." I don't think it will be too hard to find countless examples.

Note that I am not equating conservatives' blatant, shameless sexism to liberal ideas of equality. I am simply observing that the deep seated sexism is our existential reality.
 
lopri said:
I did not pay attention in recent times, but there are plenty of examples from prominent liberals who attacked Clinton with thinly veiled sexism. (Chris Matthews and his obsession with Clinton's thighs, for example?)
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And you consider Matthews to be 'left'?

Only in America...
 
I wish you showed some seriousness in engaging the topic, instead of one-liners and disparagement. Yes, among the main-stream media, Matthews is comfortably to the left of Fox news personas. In that sense, he is a liberal-leaning.

But, whatever the shortcoming of my ill-advised example of Matthews, you surely wouldn't deny that there are many sexists among liberals, would you? That was my point. I also noted that majority of conservatives seem to subscribe to a even worse sexist dogma.

I wish people will engage in substantive positions and entailing logics/facts, instead of throwing out temper tantrum.
 
lopri said:
I wish you showed some seriousness in engaging the topic, instead of one-liners and disparagement. Yes, among the main-stream media, Matthews is comfortably to the left of Fox news personas. In that sense, he is a liberal-leaning.

But, whatever the shortcoming of my ill-advised example of Matthews, you surely wouldn't deny that there are many sexists among liberals, would you? That was my point. I also noted that majority of conservatives seem to subscribe to a even worse sexist dogma.

I wish people will engage in substantive positions and entailing logics/facts, instead of throwing out temper tantrum.
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I'm sorry but it's only in America that a mushy center-center-left guy like Mathews could be mistaken for 'the left'. He's at best an 'Establishment Liberal'. Mind you, that's pretty much what Hillary Clinton is as well.

As for the issue, yeah sexism pretty much covers the political spectrum. I've just never seen that kind of attack from the, self described, progressive wing. With them it's always seemed to be policy based criticism. Having said that, I'm sure there's a few who might not say it, but think it.
 
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