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Jhhnn

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I wish you showed some seriousness in engaging the topic, instead of one-liners and disparagement. Yes, among the main-stream media, Matthews is comfortably to the left of Fox news personas. In that sense, he is a liberal-leaning.

But, whatever the shortcoming of my ill-advised example of Matthews, you surely wouldn't deny that there are many sexists among liberals, would you? That was my point. I also noted that majority of conservatives seem to subscribe to a even worse sexist dogma.

I wish people will engage in substantive positions and entailing logics/facts, instead of throwing out temper tantrum.

Please. Sexism is a "Conservative Value". And saying that somebody is "Left" of Fox News Personas doesn't make them "Left" in the slightest.

By modern Repub standards, both Ike & Nixon were Leftists.
 

rudeguy

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Please. Sexism is a "Conservative Value". And saying that somebody is "Left" of Fox News Personas doesn't make them "Left" in the slightest.

By modern Repub standards, both Ike & Nixon were Leftists.

Sexism is a democrat value as is racism. Conservatives don't base their judgement of a person because of the color of their skin or their dangly bits. A person is a person to a conservative but a democrat thinks that minorities can't afford a car and women can't get promoted without the government saying so.
 

doubledeluxe

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Interesting.

States with most hate crimes:

Maine: Ku Klux Klan and Neo-Nazis. 56/41 Democrat
Washington: Neo-Nazis and Aryan Nation. 56/41 Democrat
Nevada: 52/46. Democrat
Connecticut: 58/41. Democrat
Alabama: 38/61 Republican
Tennessee: 39/59 Republican
Kentucky: 38/60 Republican
North Dakota: 39/58 Republican
Michigan: 54/45 Democrat
D.C.: 91/7 Democrat

I think it's pretty clear that Republicans do judge people based on their skin color and their dangly bits. So do Democrats.

Trying to say that one group doesn't is absurd.
 

Pens1566

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Romney was a terrible candidate in '12 and would be a terrible candidate in '16 again.

About the skeletons in Hillary's closet ... uh, if there were something interesting there it would have come out in the last 20+ yrs.
 

rudeguy

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Romney was a terrible candidate in '12 and would be a terrible candidate in '16 again.

About the skeletons in Hillary's closet ... uh, if there were something interesting there it would have come out in the last 20+ yrs.

Not likely. Its well known that she only speaks at events she controls. Scripted questions, scripted answers, no random Q&A. She will only fly on private jets and stay in 5 star hotel suites, all while being protected by the SS. There is zero chance of anyone getting close enough to her to even question her on anything.

The only hope is to wait for her to debate someone and have them bring up her past. But that won't happens since the media would spin it that they were being mean to a poor innocent woman.
 

Pens1566

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Not likely. Its well known that she only speaks at events she controls. Scripted questions, scripted answers, no random Q&A. She will only fly on private jets and stay in 5 star hotel suites, all while being protected by the SS. There is zero chance of anyone getting close enough to her to even question her on anything.

The only hope is to wait for her to debate someone and have them bring up her past. But that won't happens since the media would spin it that they were being mean to a poor innocent woman.

Derp. That settles it. Dirt on someone who has been in the public spotlight for ~25 yrs can only hurt them when they are asked in person. :rolleyes:

Newsflash, every Clinton opponent since '91 has tried to dig up dirt on both of them. None of it has mattered or stuck to them. There won't be some miraculous discovery now.
 

squarecut1

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And saying that somebody is "Left" of Fox News Personas doesn't make them "Left" in the slightest.

By modern Repub standards, both Ike & Nixon were Leftists.

Even the Pope has been declared a Marxist by the right in America because of his criticism of the current day capitalism. It is sad how extreme and lunatic the right has become. It is bad for America most of all, because the left ideology does not adequately address today's issues.
 

Moonbeam

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Romney was a terrible candidate in '12 and would be a terrible candidate in '16 again.

About the skeletons in Hillary's closet ... uh, if there were something interesting there it would have come out in the last 20+ yrs.

It doesn't have to be anything real. The CBD will believe anything and as anybody familiar with the defect knows, a DONE DONE DONE means yes. The CBD is all about ego. Romney like Bush, would be a total disaster so you can almost bet the self haters will work hard to make it happen.

What we really all need more than anything is a person who is well adjusted and thoroughly brainwashed by a goofy religious cult and can look you in the eye and smile, as if you were the one with the problem, a total convert and proponent of the preposterous who is also proud of it.

And yet for all the evidence of provided by this aloof elitist and the distain with which he holds the 47 percent, he learned one thing well in his life, and that is herding sheep. He knows well how to look the part of the authoritarian daddy the CBD craves. Please run Mitt, please run. We are surrounded by things that go bump in the night and you have to save us.. Guide us in the right way to turn our self hate on others so that we may deny we feel it and still let it out. Help us Mitt, to let the monsters within go out and play. We need to kick some ass.
 

trenchfoot

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IMO, the candidate that's going to win is the one that uses the favored Repub tactic of selling fear the most effectively. In other words, those voters of the parties that feel the most threatened will bring out the most votes.

The Repubs will be/are bringing out the usual single issue boogymen like Obamacare, illegal immigrants over-running the country, same sex marriage, abortion and the vaunted use of their well oiled rumor mill to scare their base into coming out to vote.

The Dems, well, it seems the Dems are outgunned as usual in their purveying of fear as a method of motivating their voters to care enough to vote. They can sell to their base how the Repubs in D.C. want to take their Social Security and Medicare away, and how the Repubs want to take their ability to vote away via their Voter ID Laws, along with the Repub's habit of taking care of the rich at the expense of the middle class and the poor.....all useful and effective motivators.

But the DNC simply lack the nerve and verve to effectively pound away at these issues 24/7 like the Repubs do theirs. Instead, it seems the Dem higher ups default to ignoring and pooh-pooh'ing both the real threats against their voters and the mud and unsubstantiated crap the Repubs are constantly flinging at them, espeically on the public forum.

The RNC simply does more with less (real issue-wise) by repeatedly shouting a whole lot louder on narrowly defined issues (contrived-wise) and spending cash and resources a whole lot more liberally.

It's a formula that clearly works well for them, of which it seems the DNC should be emulating in their own fashion.
 
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OrByte

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As a life long democrat I can honestly say this:

Romney, please run again
 

DominionSeraph

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Please refute anything I said with facts or kindly
STOP POSTING

Conservative bubble babble doesn't need refuting, moron. The output of authors of fiction is presumed fiction. That you're too dumb to recognize it's fiction is your problem.

Stop posting babble and we won't ask you to back it up.
 
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rudeguy

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Conservative bubble babble doesn't need refuting, moron. The output of authors of fiction is presumed fiction. That you're too dumb to recognize it's fiction is your problem.

Stop posting babble and we won't ask you to back it up.

Please refute anything I said with facts or kindly
STOP POSTING
 

DominionSeraph

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Please refute anything I said with facts or kindly
STOP POSTING

Conservative bubble babble doesn't need refuting, moron. The output of authors of fiction is presumed fiction. That you're too dumb to recognize it's fiction is your problem.
 

rudeguy

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and again the liberal moron responds with 2nd grade behavior.


Its ok little Jimmy. Here's your trophy! Good try!
 

DominionSeraph

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and again the liberal moron responds with 2nd grade behavior.

Have you learned yet that conservative bubble babble doesn't need refuting? That professional liars are presumed to be lying? I will continue to treat you like a 2nd grader until you do learn something that a 2nd grader should be able to figure out.
 

irishScott

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She has been under attack by the Right every single day since Bill Clinton declared his candidacy. They even gone so far as accusing Bill and her of taking a man out to a park and shooting him. But every single day she's come out pristine. I wouldn't count on there being skeletons to find.

That's just simple character assassination basically aimed at the tea party idiots, it's not like they seriously investigate such claims.

I'm just saying from everything I've heard Hillary is cold, adversarial and ambitious. A person like that in politics almost certainly has something, even if it's well hidden. At the very least I look forward to laughing at the campaign ads that try to paint her as a warm and loving mother or some shit. :) It'll be Obama's "hope and change!" idealism bullshit all over again.

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nageov3t

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That's just simple character assassination basically aimed at the tea party idiots, it's not like they seriously investigate such claims.

I'm just saying from everything I've heard Hillary is cold, adversarial and ambitious. A person like that in politics almost certainly has something, even if it's well hidden. At the very least I look forward to laughing at the campaign ads that try to paint her as a warm and loving mother or some shit. :) It'll be Obama's "hope and change!" idealism bullshit all over again.

hillary-nutcracker-2.jpg

I feel like the "realest" Hillary we ever saw publically were the pictures of her getting drunk at a bar in PA. I hope she embraces that image in 2016.

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rudeguy

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I feel like the "realest" Hillary we ever saw publically were the pictures of her getting drunk at a bar in PA. I hope she embraces that image in 2016.

Help me out...

You aren't serious right? Please tell me you aren't.
 

Subyman

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Hell, I'd probably vote for him. I'd be curious to see what he would have done in place of Obama this time around.