Was Paul Walker legally a sex offender, or too soon?

[mnewsham]

Absolutely not. Happens all the time around here. IMHO, so long as she's over 18 she's fair game. 16 is disgusting and (legally) pushing the limit.

Now you're just a confirmed troll. You can't honestly believe that two years changes a girl so much to go from morally disgusting and probably wants to fuck a baby, to perfectly respectable somewhat normal thing.

 

[Dari]

Now you're just a confirmed troll. You can't honestly believe that two years changes a girl so much to go from morally disgusting and probably wants to fuck a baby, to perfectly respectable somewhat normal thing.

You go through more changes in two years when you're between the ages of 0-10 or 11-20 than 60-69 or 90-99. Also, at the age of 16 your brain is not 100% developed yet whereas at 18-21 it is fully developed.

Finally, you aren't doing yourself any favors by constantly calling me a troll while replying to me.

 

[darkswordsman17]

You go through more changes in two years when you're between the ages of 0-10 or 11-20 than 60-69 or 90-99. Also, at the age of 16 your brain is not 100 developed yet whereas at 18-21 it is fully developed.

No its not, try more like 25.

 

[mnewsham]

at the age of 16 your brain is not 100% developed yet whereas at 18-21 it is fully developed.

The human brain doesn't fully develop until age 25, so by your logic we should restrict sex, alcohol, and cigarettes until 25 when our brains are fully developed, right?

 

[Dari]

The human brain doesn't fully develop until age 25, so by your logic we should restrict sex, alcohol, and cigarettes until 25 when our brains are fully developed, right?

No, idiot. There are legal limits to everything and it is clear that PW pushed the AoC limit not once but twice. Two times is a clear enough pattern for me and would make me look more into his past if I had the slightest interest. Are you telling me you find nothing abnormal about a man in his 20s and 30s strictly dating 16 year olds?

 

[CZroe]

And you really believe that he waited until they both turned 18 before having sex with them? I wouldn't wait more than a month before I leave and I doubt PW was the pious type. If he did have sex with them (highly likely) then he just pass the legal threshold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#California

I believe it's certainly possible and more likely than you care to admit. From what I've read, he was much more religious than me and a devout Christian. You act like unmarried Christians who remain celibate until marriage are rare. OMG! A whole "MONTH?!" I am 33.

 

[Dari]

I believe it's certainly possible and more likely than you care to admit. From what I've read, he was much more religious than me and a devout Christian. You act like unmarried Christians who remain celibate until marriage are rare. I am 33.

PW was interested in science.

 

[CZroe]

PW was interested in science.

So? Me too. Got any other brainless points? Christians are not opposed to science. Their doctrine specifically says to examine the universe to find the truth.

 

[gorcorps]

No, idiot. There are legal limits to everything and it is clear that PW pushed the AoC limit not once but twice. Two times is a clear enough pattern for me and would make me look more into his past if I had the slightest interest. Are you telling me you find nothing abnormal about a man in his 20s and 30s strictly dating 16 year olds?

The reason it's considered abnormal is because of the rules our society has built around such things

Without rules we're just animals who's only goal is to breed and keep the species going. If she's old enough to have a cycle, then she's old enough to trigger the same chemical brain reflex any woman can trigger. You can make all the rules about it you want, but your knee-jerk reaction to such things completely ignores the fact that we're trying to adjust our natural instincts through social convention... conventions which haven't been around long enough to fully take hold yet. Our species is still trying to come to grips with monogamy for fucks sake, so it takes some time.

In short, anybody diddling children is fucked in the head and needs to be dealt with properly, but anybody who can breed is not a "child" according to our chemistry and animal instincts.

 

[Dari]

So? Me too. Got any other brainless points? Christians are not opposed to science. Their doctrine specifically says to examine the universe to find the truth.

Whether they are or not the culture speaks louder than words from a 2-5k year old book.

 

[Dari]

The reason it's considered abnormal is because of the rules our society has built around such things

Without rules we're just animals who's only goal is to breed and keep the species going. If she's old enough to have a cycle, then she's old enough to trigger the same chemical brain reflex any woman can trigger. You can make all the rules about it you want, but your knee-jerk reaction to such things completely ignores the fact that we're trying to adjust our natural instincts through social convention... conventions which haven't been around long enough to fully take hold yet. Our species is still trying to come to grips with monogamy for fucks sake, so it takes some time.

In short, anybody diddling children is fucked in the head and needs to be dealt with properly, but anybody who can breed is not a "child" according to our chemistry and animal instincts.

So, in your opinion R. Kelly should not have been prosecuted? Or do you mean persecuted? Clearly, the girl he was fucking was over the age of 14 and could become pregnant. Are you also implying that any female who can have a period is fair game?

 

[mnewsham]

Are you also implying that any female who can have a period is fair game?

Well in many countries that is the case to this day, and it's only been in the past 100 or so years that it has become inappropriate in this culture.

 

[dank69]

how can u tell?
what 16yr old girl isnt shaved nowadays?

No. Brazilian bikini wax or social pariah.

 

[CZroe]

Whether they are or not the culture speaks louder than words from a 2-5k year old book.

I guess that's how racists justify their assumptions about individuals of a particular race. You are every bit as bad as they are, you intolerant jerk.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Age of consent is 16 in some places, that is all.

 

[Raduque]

Dari is one of the biggest trolls on this entire forum, and you are all feeding him.

 

[Dari]

I guess that's how racists justify their assumptions about individuals of a particular race. You are every bit as bad as they are, you intolerant jerk.

Shouldn't you be in church?:hmm:

Don't take things too personally. We don't even know each other. Getting back to PW, dating 16 year olds is suspect in my book. And if he was celibate as you claim, and celibate the way a lot of young Christians really are, then there may have been a lot of anal sex going on in that relationship. And that changes nothing.

 

[Engineer]

how can u tell?
what 16yr old girl isnt shaved nowadays?

How do you know this? :hmm:

 

[gorcorps]

So, in your opinion R. Kelly should not have been prosecuted? Or do you mean persecuted? Clearly, the girl he was fucking was over the age of 14 and could become pregnant. Are you also implying that any female who can have a period is fair game?

I didn't say that, putting words in somebody's mouth is a pretty embarrassing way to have a discussion.

There are laws in place and people need to obey them. You must obey the laws of the state and country you live in, and I absolutely believe that. However, you're trying to convict people who are still obeying said laws. The difference between R. Kelly and Paul Walker is that one broke the law and one didn't. End of story. You're trying to make up your own laws and criticize anybody who doesn't meet your twisted view of the legal system. If what PW did was fucked up then it would have been in the law books that way, but it's not so leave it alone.

The system says innocent until proven guilty, and you're spitting in the face of that system by treating somebody as if they already broke the law when they didn't. However it's that same system that sets the age of consent, something which you take very seriously (and rightfully so, because it's the law). So why are you picking and choosing which parts of the system you want to hold people to, and which parts your choose to ignore? I for one agree with the system as it currently stands, but that system says 16 is legal in some places... period. If you're going to continue this discussion, I suggest you stop being so hypocritical as it's making you look silly.

 

[Dari]

Well in many countries that is the case to this day, and it's only been in the past 100 or so years that it has become inappropriate in this culture.

And look at the countries where it is appropriate. Bastions of advanced civilization, I see🙄

 

[mnewsham]

there may have been a lot of anal sex going on in that relationship

Lol, what the fuck are you smoking, pass that shit this way I need some of that.

I'm not even sure how you arrived at that conclusion based on zero first hand knowledge of anything in that relationship...

 

[Lonyo]

You go through more changes in two years when you're between the ages of 0-10 or 11-20 than 60-69 or 90-99. Also, at the age of 16 your brain is not 100% developed yet whereas at 18-21 it is fully developed.

Finally, you aren't doing yourself any favors by constantly calling me a troll while replying to me.

Pretty sure paedophiles don't give kids tests to check their brain age before deciding whether to be attracted to them.
It doesn't matter what your brain is like aged 16 vs 25 since we're talking about physical attraction. You don't have sex with someone's brain.

Also 16 != pedo, unless they haven't physically developed, probably due to some disorder. 16 year olds are physically maturing. I am in my later 20's and sometimes people still think I'm under 20, so would it be paedophilic if someone was interested in me when I look like I'm in my teens?

Also it means 99% of asians are paedophiles, since asian women don't age that much between teens and probably 30s really.

Also if you're not a troll you're just an idiot.

 

[Dari]

I didn't say that, putting words in somebody's mouth is a pretty embarrassing way to have a discussion.

There are laws in place and people need to obey them. You must obey the laws of the state and country you live in, and I absolutely believe that. However, you're trying to convict people who are still obeying said laws. The difference between R. Kelly and Paul Walker is that one broke the law and one didn't. End of story. You're trying to make up your own laws and criticize anybody who doesn't meet your twisted view of the legal system. If what PW did was fucked up then it would have been in the law books that way, but it's not so leave it alone.

The system says innocent until proven guilty, and you're spitting in the face of that system by treating somebody as if they already broke the law when they didn't. However it's that same system that sets the age of consent, something which you take very seriously (and rightfully so, because it's the law). So why are you picking and choosing which parts of the system you want to hold people to, and which parts your choose to ignore? I for one agree with the system as it currently stands, but that system says 16 is legal in some places... period. If you're going to continue this discussion, I suggest you stop being so hypocritical as it's making you look silly.

You have serious reading comprehension issues. I am not saying he's guilty of anything. I did not say he broke any laws. I simply stated that, when it came to his dating practices, he was at the limit of the law. I also did not claim he was a pedophile, merely asking if he was or not. mnewsham made it very clear that there was another term for someone like PW. But, to me, whether or not he broke the law was never in dispute since it is not even illegal to be a pedophile. But I wonder, why was he pushing the law to its limit by dating these girls? What motivated him to go to that legal limit but no more? Perhaps he was not willing to risk his freedom and stardom in spite of his urges to be with someone younger? We don't know...

 

[mnewsham]

And look at the countries where it is appropriate. Bastions of advanced civilization, I see🙄

Many European countries have the age of consent at 14, most of the rest are 15 and 16.

If you want we can talk about Iran where sex is only legal once married, and the legal of marriage is 18 for men and 16 for women, now Iran must be a REAL bastion of civilization.

 

[Howard]

Not too soon, but this is just stupid.