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Warner Bros goes Blu-Ray exclusive

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: vrbaba
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
They should have just gotten a Netflix membership and rented their HD-DVD movies.
I never understood buying Movies in the first place.

Not with DVDs until a year or so ago. But ever since DVDs and even HD-DVDs costing about 10 bucks a piece, it makes no sense in renting one for 4-5 bucks.
That's why you rent them from Netflix for a fraction of the cost.

It still costs the same. Unless you want to watch every crappy movie ever made.
 
Was just thinking about this on the way to work - will Blu-Ray players work with regular plain old dvd's?
 
Originally posted by: vrbaba
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: vrbaba
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
They should have just gotten a Netflix membership and rented their HD-DVD movies.
I never understood buying Movies in the first place.

Not with DVDs until a year or so ago. But ever since DVDs and even HD-DVDs costing about 10 bucks a piece, it makes no sense in renting one for 4-5 bucks.
That's why you rent them from Netflix for a fraction of the cost.

It still costs the same. Unless you want to watch every crappy movie ever made.

Huh? 😕

Originally posted by: abaez
Was just thinking about this on the way to work - will Blu-Ray players work with regular plain old dvd's?


Yeah
 
Wow people are getting upset. I don't watch too many movies and any movies I do watch are on plain vanilla DVD. The only interest I have in this war is that I have a PS3 in the house.

My contribution to the thread? People need to save their emotions for things that are a little more important.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: vrbaba
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: vrbaba
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
They should have just gotten a Netflix membership and rented their HD-DVD movies.
I never understood buying Movies in the first place.

Not with DVDs until a year or so ago. But ever since DVDs and even HD-DVDs costing about 10 bucks a piece, it makes no sense in renting one for 4-5 bucks.
That's why you rent them from Netflix for a fraction of the cost.

It still costs the same. Unless you want to watch every crappy movie ever made.

Huh? 😕

Comparing Netflix with people who own movies is irrelevant. People own movies for various reasons, the most important being supporting your most favorite movies and having an on-demand collection.

Netflix is for the mass movie viewer watching movies constantly. My reason for buying HD-DVDs is to collect my favorites and watch it with my friends and family who may not have watched them.

Also, you only buy movies that you want to watch multiple times. That requires a constant netflix subscription.. so you cant compare a hd-dvd with less than a month's cost.


 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
WTF are you even doing in this thread, Red Dawn? You need Computer Geeks to even turn on your computer and now you want us to believe you've put any more thought into the Hi Def war than unwrapping the PS3 you guys won from a sweepstakes?

By the way, how do you look in Celtics green?
Frankly I think this whole Format War was bullshit and unnecessary.

Yet that didn't stop you from throwing your $.02 into this thread did it? What a surprise.

As for me, I'm already over it. I didn't "invest" in HD-DVD. My DVD player had a broken tray which we lived with for years. When a deal came along I got an HD-DVD player and 12 movies for $160. I've added maybe another 8 or so since. I appreciated that the Toshiba group catering to real people and not the "gotta have it" crowd who bought a $600 PS3 when it didn't even have any games just cause it was Sony and cause it was coooool.

My shock in all of this and only source of initial frustration was that they could make such a bad decision. Had Warner stayed neutral, BR was doomed. Warner just effectively bailed them out based on one statistic......percentage of discs sold this year. It's another check under the column of stupid short-sighted decisions and I'm sick of seeing them made. But as I said I'm over it.....it's par for the course and, as I said, the war doesn't have to be over and, at worst, there will still be plenty of titles to pick up before my player becomes a dirt cheap really good upconverter.

Then again, if you are all saying that the winner dictates who was best, then I guess you can all stop bitching about Bush being President.

this post brought to you by 100% crazy.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Wow man. You mean you're like actively seeking this kind of news out there? Did this news like give you some boost of self-worth or make your p33n grow 2 inches or something? If so, I'm glad thye went with Blu Ray or you may have tossed yourself off a bridge.
Yes, I'm actively seeking industry news that impacts HDM.

What about you? Have you been in "media blackout" mode since Friday's bombshell?

I've been living my life. Just like I was doing before the news.

pretty sad. your life consists of pathetic trollish posts that offer no insight regarding a tech war that means very little to the grand scheme of things. you comment that this has impacted you very little, but whenever someone brings up evidence to support the adoption of Blu Ray, you "slam" it with anti-Sony venom and label anyone that sees sense (and the reality that one format had to lose-we all KNEW that) in this adoption as rabid brainwashed Sony zealots.

...the life you are leading over this weekend is rather pathetic.
 
Eh, Personally I think Blu-Ray movies sell more because they get more deals. Amazon finally has a BOGO HD-DVD sale... I go to check out the movies and the only good movies are the Harry Potter movies (which sold out very quickly) and maybe a movie or two. Then, I see on Slickdeals that Amazon has a BOGO Blu-Ray deal (the 3rd one in 4 months) and I check out the movies (since I have a player for both formats) and there's maybe 12 movies that I'd get! :Q The Blu-Ray BOGO deal also includes the Harry Potter movies as well. I actually still need to check out both deals again and make some purchases (just too good to pass up sometimes).

I think both formats have some good movies overall, but I'm not horribly interested in paying $30 for a movie that I'm not ecstatic over but do like.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I just hope the HD-DVD group decides to prolong the war. Looking at the movies to be released in 2008, even without Warner they could still take the lead with even a small move like dropping the MSRP of the players to $100 permanently or making movies match SD prices.

NO, why drag this on even further? It's annoying as hell not being able to decide on a format already. I wish HD-DVD would just DIAF already. All of a sudden they are trying to win back market by putting out "we aren't dead yet" marketing.

How many times will people have to declare HD-DVD dead before it dies completely? Damn. Even Microsoft didn't give it a single mention during Bill Gates CES address yesterday.

DIE HD-DVD DIE ALREADY FOR GOODNESS SAKE.

I wonder if this is how people felt back in the VHS/Beta days...lol.
 
Originally posted by: amdhunter
NO, why drag this on even further? It's annoying as hell not being able to decide on a format already. I wish HD-DVD would just DIAF already. All of a sudden they are trying to win back market by putting out "we aren't dead yet" marketing.

It should be dragged out further because the blu-ray players are complete crap, aside from the PS3. The HD players are further along in terms of reliability and features. I would rather there be competition for a little while so the players are steadily improved. If HD drops today, I doubt you'd see any major improvements to blu-ray for a while. Plus, with competition and less people buying, they can easily move forward with newer profiles without impacting a huge market.

 
Here is a great post I saw on AVSForum:

To all who say the following:

I'm done with HD media, or I'm never buying a Blu-Ray player.

Get over it.

If you don't have one. Buy a Blu-Ray player. They kick butt. And Blu-Ray movies are top notch quality. If you have a HDTV, you are missing out on some of the best content you can possibly watch on your pretty TV.

If you think the move by WB should force you to give up on HD Media all together, good god. Grow up. Tech changes. You either change with it, or you will be stuck in the past and can't take advantage of the latest stuff.

If you are happy with SD-DVDs, fine. But if you are here, in these forums, don't kid yourself. You like HD Content. The real battle is not HD-DVD vs Blu-ray, but HD Media vs SD Media.

Lets get more content out there in the hands of the average Joe Six Pack, and we all win. More studios will release more content, which gives us more choice, and frankly, more enjoyment.

Stop acting like a 3 year old who doesn't get what he/she wants, and support HDM.

Don't like Sony? get a panny player.
Don't like Blu-Ray? in a few years, that will be like telling people you don't like Audio CDs, you prefer the 8-Track, who knows in another 10 years, we probably will have something else. It will be called XD-DVD or something and the flames will start all over again. Thats life in the Tech Lane.

As for your HD-DVD collections. Hey, the players are great Upconverting Players, and last I checked, your HD-DVD discs you have now, will allways play on your HD-DVD players. So..... who cares? Get both players, be Purple, and buy the movies, not the format.
 
Even with this latest news, it still doesn't change the only true answer for us consumers which is purchasing a duel format player. Unfortunately, all of us need to wait for that technology to become more reliable and less costly. It's not like we haven't seen these format wars in the past. It always ends up the same for the consumer who is getting screwed in the end.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You think if Sony wins the Hi Def war that they're going to give you a cut? Are they going to refund part of the money you blew on a PS3? Nope, they're going to do what Toshiba would have done and maximize their profits by squeezing everything they can out of you and me.
Unlike HD-DVD, I wasn't required to give one company my money to go Blu-Ray. Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer, Denon, Philips, Sharp, all have players that will compete for consumer dollars.

It is every corporation's job to squeeze profits out of consumers. Gee whiz, is that really news? It's the consumer's job to squeeze every bit of value out of corporations. Don't like the prices, don't buy it. I didn't buy a 1080p HDTV when they were $3000+, but I waited until competition between corporations drove down prices to my range.

The only difference should BR win is that now the average joe has another year or two to wait before he can rationalize the expense of a Hi Def player and you won't be able to import films.
So what? DVD players weren't sub-$200 until 1999/2000, 4-5 years after DVD was introduced. Blu-Ray has been around for roughly 2 years and we already have $270 players.

Between rootkits, DRM, region coding, clunky java code, unfinalized specs that left early adopters out cold....you would have thought you'd have considered Toshiba the lesser of two evils, but your side was chosen for you wasn't it. Rock on.
There are rootkits in Blu-Ray? DVD has DRM, and it sells hundreds of millions of discs per year.

Speaking of leaving early adopters out in the cold...
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Unlike HD-DVD, I wasn't required to give one company my money to go Blu-Ray. Panasonic, Samsung, Pioneer, Denon, Philips, Sharp, all have players that will compete for consumer dollars.

Onkyo and RCA make or made HD-DVD players.

It's kind of sad how bad the non-sony/toshiba stand-alone players are if there are that many companies making them. I guess they had more lead time in making them, but the PS3 has been out for some time and there still doesn't seem to be a player that can compete with it, and all non-toshiba HD-DVD devices have more or less disappeared off the planet.
 
I'll buy when I can get a Stand alone Blu-Ray player for $100 or less. I assume it wont be too long before the players are less expensive.
 
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: amdhunter
NO, why drag this on even further? It's annoying as hell not being able to decide on a format already. I wish HD-DVD would just DIAF already. All of a sudden they are trying to win back market by putting out "we aren't dead yet" marketing.

It should be dragged out further because the blu-ray players are complete crap, aside from the PS3. The HD players are further along in terms of reliability and features. I would rather there be competition for a little while so the players are steadily improved. If HD drops today, I doubt you'd see any major improvements to blu-ray for a while. Plus, with competition and less people buying, they can easily move forward with newer profiles without impacting a huge market.

I'll bet if a standard was reached tomorrow. Either Bluray or HDDVD hardware will have incompatibilities sorted out within a year.

Right now as it stands, with both camps trying to outdo the other, the incompatibilities will increase as newer features or totally experimental features are pushed to diffrentiate themselves.

The HD war needs to stop already, before it turns into Iraq II.
 
Originally posted by: reeserock
I'll buy when I can get a Stand alone Blu-Ray player for $100 or less. I assume it wont be too long before the players are less expensive.

They won't get less expensive until a format is decided.
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
So this is what console fanboys do in the lull between releases...
Console? I don't even own a single PS3 game.
 
Please refrain from the erroneous abbreviation "BR". The correct one is BD, from the two words: Blu-ray Disc.
 
Originally posted by: reeserock
I'll buy when I can get a Stand alone Blu-Ray player for $100 or less. I assume it wont be too long before the players are less expensive.

that wont take too long...sony just announced a $200 blu-ray internal sata player.
 
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