War Thunder - F2P Combat Flight MMO

[Genx87]

When they offered free gold to play WoWP. I couldnt even put myself through suiciding for the free gold. It is baffling how a company that makes WoT can put out WoWP.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

This, I have tried WoWP on and off a few times, especially since I knew they were going to unify the gold/premium between their titles. I have a huge amount of time devoted into WoT so it made sense for me to stick with the brand.

WoWP was just plain BAD. I mean horribad. I mean so bad that I wanted to uninstall world of tanks for being from the same company. How anyone can say it is on the same caliber, or better than War Thunder is beyond me.

It has been a long time since I have been so disappointed with a product. When they were offering free tokens that could be redeemed for gold, it was still not worth it for me to play that game.

I've seen some indications that war thunder will be open beta for tanks soon. I hope WT doesn't have the same problem with one aspect of the game being good and the other poor.

 

[Genx87]

Rumor I heard is by the end of this month for tank beta. I suspect their tank game will be similar to their plane game. Which will be cool but potentially frustrating to people. No HP means one shot kills like planes. But from tanks that you may not see until you are dead. but I am interested in seeing what they have.

 

[ThinClient]

I've played WoWP through the beta at different times. I am utterly shocked to find out they intend to release it as a final product this month.

Aye, it's still beta.

It isnt anywhere near ready for release. It is barely alpha quality.

lol!! Not even close to alpha. Alpha wasn't playable. Besides, they're just titles. Who cares if it's released now? It's not like it's riddled with bugs like War Thunder was/is. If you don't like it, then don't play it, but don't start making wild accusations not based in reality

And compared to War Thunder a laughing stock.

Nah, War Thunder was boring. You get more than one life? What the hell is this nonsense? You got shot down. You're DEAD. Weeeeeee, respawn and keep going through the map! Ground targets are a joke. They don't evade. Fuck, they don't even TURN. They just drive straight forward like sitting ducks. Dogfighting gameplay is about the same between the two games, so I choose the one that sucks less than the one I choose to play.

 

[ThinClient]

WoWP was just plain BAD. I mean horribad. I mean so bad that I wanted to uninstall world of tanks for being from the same company. How anyone can say it is on the same caliber, or better than War Thunder is beyond me.

Beyond you because you aren't rooted in reality either? Terribad? Really? Uninstalling a game you LOVE simply because it's made by the same company that made a game you didn't like? Are we 8? You don't understand because you're too busy overreacting?

 

[Sa7aN]

im not playing again until they fix bombers, i cant even get up to a "safe" altitude, i'll spawn at ~12k and by 16-17k a 109 has blown my tail or wing off... or my elevators are gone.... my gunners are maxed and they couldn't hit air if they tried

and thats when they dont one shot a wing off me

 

[Ruptga]

I've been reading a lot of complaining about bombers, but people seem to like the low tier ones. I like my bb1 and sb2m fairly well, though they still require good timing and placement in order to survive more than two runs. I rarely try high level bombing, it is an entirely different animal and I really suck at it.

The thing about gunners is pretty definitely broken, though. I used some of the eagles they gave me on the sb2 crew, got all 3 gunners and got them up to 100 on both skills, plus got expert qualification. My gunners will score hits often enough, but if the enemy is reasonably competent they will often give better than they get. Even if they are incompetent, if they stay back about 1000ft my idiot gunners will spray away their entire ammo supply, and I don't know what the reload time is on those guns but it is long enough to get me killed almost every time. I understand that balancing automatic gunners has to be a fine line to walk, but right now they're coming down pretty squarely on the side of suck. IMO, just giving the gunners the usual 20 second reload would do a lot of good, at least then they could spray suppressive fire everywhere.

 

[CrackRabbit]

I've been reading a lot of complaining about bombers, but people seem to like the low tier ones. I like my bb1 and sb2m fairly well, though they still require good timing and placement in order to survive more than two runs. I rarely try high level bombing, it is an entirely different animal and I really suck at it.

The thing about gunners is pretty definitely broken, though. I used some of the eagles they gave me on the sb2 crew, got all 3 gunners and got them up to 100 on both skills, plus got expert qualification. My gunners will score hits often enough, but if the enemy is reasonably competent they will often give better than they get. Even if they are incompetent, if they stay back about 1000ft my idiot gunners will spray away their entire ammo supply, and I don't know what the reload time is on those guns but it is long enough to get me killed almost every time. I understand that balancing automatic gunners has to be a fine line to walk, but right now they're coming down pretty squarely on the side of suck. IMO, just giving the gunners the usual 20 second reload would do a lot of good, at least then they could spray suppressive fire everywhere.

The low tier bombers take a ton of fire to take down because very few planes have canons. Catalina's in particular are a real bitch.

 

[Ruptga]

The low tier bombers take a ton of fire to take down because very few planes have canons. Catalina's in particular are a real bitch.

I know, that's part of why I also have a lagg 3-11. I also enjoy annihilating PBYs with rocket salvos from either the lagg or the I-16.

 

[Genx87]

Aye, it's still beta.



lol!! Not even close to alpha. Alpha wasn't playable. Besides, they're just titles. Who cares if it's released now? It's not like it's riddled with bugs like War Thunder was/is. If you don't like it, then don't play it, but don't start making wild accusations not based in reality

You misunderstand what I am saying. WoWP's alpha was unplayable. Their beta is alpha quality. It doesn't matter what label they place on it. In a few weeks when it is released as a final product. It will still be alpha quality. Do you really believe WoWP in its current state is at the same point in quality and features as WT that is still in beta? Or WoT on release?

Nah, War Thunder was boring. You get more than one life? What the hell is this nonsense? You got shot down. You're DEAD. Weeeeeee, respawn and keep going through the map! Ground targets are a joke. They don't evade. Fuck, they don't even TURN. They just drive straight forward like sitting ducks. Dogfighting gameplay is about the same between the two games, so I choose the one that sucks less than the one I choose to play.

You realize there are multiple modes in WT right? If you want one death and you are out, then play historical mode or FRB. Either way having multiple planes in arcade allows one to spend more time playing and less time match making. And ground targets evade now. Because, unlike WoWP when WT is patched. It increases the quality of the game. Dog fighting is not the same between the two. Have you even played either game? Arcade mode they may have some similarities in flight models. But WoWP has fricking hit points lmao.

You are the first person I have come across that has claimed WoWP in its current state is superior to WT.

 

[Rinaun]

One complaint I do have is that they still haven't taken a slight thought on why certain planes were successful, and in arcade mode have balanced it so wonky I'm not sure what tier I'm fighting half the time. I really do wish there was a mode between historical mode and arcade; I'd love more realism instead of fighters pointing straight up and slamming Shift/W.


Tip: firing faster is a much larger advantage. I've found tons of fast firing guns and a rocket salvo for the heavy targets makes playing a joke. I can see why all the clannies use spitfires and hurricanes.

 

[ThinClient]

im not playing again until they fix bombers, i cant even get up to a "safe" altitude, i'll spawn at ~12k and by 16-17k a 109 has blown my tail or wing off... or my elevators are gone.... my gunners are maxed and they couldn't hit air if they tried

and thats when they dont one shot a wing off me

Don't be at the front of the pack while you climb. If you play a bomber, climb and turn slightly at the same time when the match starts. Get up to altitude over your own spawn point before you move out. That also lets the battle begin to develop, giving you the situational awareness advantage.

 

[ThinClient]

You misunderstand what I am saying. WoWP's alpha was unplayable. Their beta is alpha quality. It doesn't matter what label they place on it. In a few weeks when it is released as a final product. It will still be alpha quality. Do you really believe WoWP in its current state is at the same point in quality and features as WT that is still in beta? Or WoT on release?

Alphas are supposed to be barely playable. Betas are supposed to be mostly playable. I have not had one SINGLE problem with WoWP. Not one bug, not one crash to desktop, not one graphical anomaly, not one thing. Hell, at least WoWP had more than ONE MAP, which is what WT had when I played it last, which wasn't more than a month ago or so.

If the label doesn't matter, then what are you whining about?

You realize there are multiple modes in WT right? If you want one death and you are out, then play historical mode or FRB. Either way having multiple planes in arcade allows one to spend more time playing and less time match making. And ground targets evade now. Because, unlike WoWP when WT is patched. It increases the quality of the game. Dog fighting is not the same between the two.

WT is still boring as fuck, looks ugly. The graphics suck ass.

Have you even played either game?

Did you really just ask me that?

Arcade mode they may have some similarities in flight models. But WoWP has fricking hit points lmao.

Yeah, and what's the problem with that? It's SUPPOSED to be an arcade. WT has HP too, they're just not displayed, noob.

You are the first person I have come across that has claimed WoWP in its current state is superior to WT.

You're also the person who whines that its beta is an alpha and then says that labels don't matter. LOL.

 

[Genx87]

Alphas are supposed to be barely playable. Betas are supposed to be mostly playable. I have not had one SINGLE problem with WoWP. Not one bug, not one crash to desktop, not one graphical anomaly, not one thing. Hell, at least WoWP had more than ONE MAP, which is what WT had when I played it last, which wasn't more than a month ago or so.

Lets save ourselves this pointless conversation. If you think WT has one map you haven't played it within a month.

 

[ThinClient]

Lets save ourselves this pointless conversation. If you think WT has one map you haven't played it within a month.

It's true. It could be that playing the one match I played to see if the game was any different just happened to be that same map again.

BUT IT'S A ALFA! BUT IT'S A BETA! BUT IT'S NOT EVEN PLAYABLE! BUT LABELS DON'T MATTER! lolol

 

[Genx87]

It's true. It could be that playing the one match I played to see if the game was any different just happened to be that same map again.

BUT IT'S A ALFA! BUT IT'S A BETA! BUT IT'S NOT EVEN PLAYABLE! BUT LABELS DON'T MATTER! lolol

You played one match and saw the same map and came to the conclusion there is one map in the game? Seriously, one game? This is where I stop wasting my time with somebody who hasn't a clue.

 

[ZaneNBK]

It's true. It could be that playing the one match I played to see if the game was any different just happened to be that same map again.

BUT IT'S A ALFA! BUT IT'S A BETA! BUT IT'S NOT EVEN PLAYABLE! BUT LABELS DON'T MATTER! lolol

You've played two games of WT and decided that not only did it just have one map, but that WoWP is a superior game. You have no clue what you're talking about.

Not only does WT has several maps (more than I saw in WoWP) but it also has single death game modes that have much more realistic flight models with limited ammo and fuel.

 

[Possessed Freak]

im not playing again until they fix bombers, i cant even get up to a "safe" altitude, i'll spawn at ~12k and by 16-17k a 109 has blown my tail or wing off... or my elevators are gone.... my gunners are maxed and they couldn't hit air if they tried

and thats when they dont one shot a wing off me

Why climb at all? Unless your entire goal is to annihilate the enemy base (boring as hell and annoying to the team when it happens), then you need to smack ground targets. Have fun trying to lead targets from 20kft. I get nice and low, let my gunners shoot to their heart's content, bomb the hell out of ground targets, perform a 180, do it again, perform a 180 and eventually die in a nice fireball (ramming another ground target if I can).

But, I did what I am supposed to do in a timely manner... kill ground targets, cause mayhem that the enemy has to respond to, and get our team ahead.

Climbing for 5 minutes to make safe bombing runs on the enemy base praying that the enemy does not have a good climbing plane to annihilate me does not sound like a good idea.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

^ above ^

I'm still fairly new to the game and have tried both strategies as well. I too drop low and bomb. Over 3k altitude and I can't hit squat. Just can't do it captain. Now I've seen others who CAN but I'm not sure HOW they are doing it.

 

[ZaneNBK]

I do fairly well at high altitude bombing, at least until I started getting into the higher tiers where jets make high altitude bombing almost impossible. However, even when it goes well it's extremely boring.

 

[TallBill]

Im terrible at bombing. Maybe part because the wellington is a flying bus.

 

[KMFJD]

Im terrible at bombing. Maybe part because the wellington is a flying bus.

It can't be as bad as the PBY can it? I used to fly the PBY when it was a lvl 1 Russian plane, what a tank, it would take multiple rams to take down, i actually had the gunners shoot down 4 planes in a match before.

 

[Genx87]

The old PBY was comical. There is a video fo Or1gyn and the Mighty Jingles landing on the middle airstrip on stalinggrad domination. Then letting their gunners go to work while they tanked low level fighters strafing them.

As bombers get higher their role becomes tougher as more and more planes have cannons.

 

[ZaneNBK]

Im terrible at bombing. Maybe part because the wellington is a flying bus.

I haven't played for a while but the biggest problem I (and a lot of others) had with the Wellington was that it was so fragile. Basically if anyone shoots in your general vicinity you just explode.

 

[ThinClient]

You've played two games of WT and decided that not only did it just have one map, but that WoWP is a superior game. You have no clue what you're talking about.

Not only does WT has several maps (more than I saw in WoWP) but it also has single death game modes that have much more realistic flight models with limited ammo and fuel.

I played WT for like four days straight.

Good job on your dumbass assumptions though.

It might have more maps now, but I bet they're just as boring, just as ugly, just as featureless as the original map I played over... and over... and over...

Additional game modes? Who gives a shit about that? Spawn once, fight it out, last man standing is winner. WoWP wins.

These are ARCADE GAMES, not flight sims. If you want a flight sim with ammo and fuel constraints, go play A10C where it takes 15-20 minutes to start up your warthog.