Want to play F.E.A.R.?

[Drayvn]

Rollo tell me this is just a big joke to you and ur just having a laugh.

Because saying the 7800GTX is a great buy because of a $50 game, is just pure bs.

Hey look guys i can play FEAR at 50FPS with my $600 card!!

And look i bough this card last week, and i havent even played the game or even seen the box. Im the coolest!

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: Killrose
Game developers are going to have to list minimum system specs AND max allowable resolution with said specs soon. I see a Class Action consumer suit in the works.

When ever I look at most minimum specs listed on a game box, I have to laugh.

Thats because the marketers have decided that any system that won't explode or meltdown if you try to run the application works for minimum specs.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Drayvn
Rollo tell me this is just a big joke to you and ur just having a laugh.

Because saying the 7800GTX is a great buy because of a $50 game, is just pure bs.

Hey look guys i can play FEAR at 50FPS with my $600 card!!

And look i bough this card last week, and i havent even played the game or even seen the box. Im the coolest!

You'll have to excuse my hardware mania Dravyn, I get pretty excited when the new video cards come out.

The thing is, some people have been posting a lot of stuff about how there are no games, and thus no reason, to buy 7800s.

This game was supposed to be out June, and is now due between August and October, and the only single card that really runs it at all is the 7800GTX.

With Battlefield 2, you have a lot of people wondering why it doesn't play well for them, and the reason is probably sitting on their AGP/PCIE slot.

I really think this is the way forward, based on personal experience and reviews.

R520 and Crossfire are still MIA, so I can't recommend that?

BTW- I say the 7800 is a great buy not just because of this game, but because of the 6800U SLI performance on all games. That's a lot of power for $600..

 

[linkgoron]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Drayvn
Rollo tell me this is just a big joke to you and ur just having a laugh.

Because saying the 7800GTX is a great buy because of a $50 game, is just pure bs.

Hey look guys i can play FEAR at 50FPS with my $600 card!!

And look i bough this card last week, and i havent even played the game or even seen the box. Im the coolest!

You'll have to excuse my hardware mania Dravyn, I get pretty excited when the new video cards come out.

The thing is, some people have been posting a lot of stuff about how there are no games, and thus no reason, to buy 7800s.

This game was supposed to be out June, and is now due between August and October, and the only single card that really runs it at all is the 7800GTX.

With Battlefield 2, you have a lot of people wondering why it doesn't play well for them, and the reason is probably sitting on their AGP/PCIE slot.

I really think this is the way forward, based on personal experience and reviews.

R520 and Crossfire are still MIA, so I can't recommend that?

BTW- I say the 7800 is a great buy not just because of this game, but because of the 6800U SLI performance on all games. That's a lot of power for $600..

The 7800GTX doesn't have 6800U SLI in all games.

 

[Drayvn]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Drayvn
Rollo tell me this is just a big joke to you and ur just having a laugh.

Because saying the 7800GTX is a great buy because of a $50 game, is just pure bs.

Hey look guys i can play FEAR at 50FPS with my $600 card!!

And look i bough this card last week, and i havent even played the game or even seen the box. Im the coolest!

You'll have to excuse my hardware mania Dravyn, I get pretty excited when the new video cards come out.

The thing is, some people have been posting a lot of stuff about how there are no games, and thus no reason, to buy 7800s.

This game was supposed to be out June, and is now due between August and October, and the only single card that really runs it at all is the 7800GTX.

With Battlefield 2, you have a lot of people wondering why it doesn't play well for them, and the reason is probably sitting on their AGP/PCIE slot.

I really think this is the way forward, based on personal experience and reviews.

R520 and Crossfire are still MIA, so I can't recommend that?

BTW- I say the 7800 is a great buy not just because of this game, but because of the 6800U SLI performance on all games. That's a lot of power for $600..

I dont mind ppl who spend lots of cash on these cards, if i had the moeny i would also, i doubt anybody here wouldnt say no if they had the cash.

Its just that if FEAR does come out with specs like that then well great on them for advancing technology, but this is pushing it where only 1 GPU can do it reasonably. While 2 of the same can do it slightly better.

Then all those other millions of gamers are left with nothing.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: Rollo

This game was supposed to be out June, and is now due between August and October, and the only single card that really runs it at all is the 7800GTX.

With Battlefield 2, you have a lot of people wondering why it doesn't play well for them, and the reason is probably sitting on their AGP/PCIE slot.

BTW- I say the 7800 is a great buy not just because of this game, but because of the 6800U SLI performance on all games. That's a lot of power for $600..

By august/october, R520 will surely arrive. There is no rush to buy 7800.
There is no 7800AGP, thus only a small percentage can benefit from it anyways.
x850xt pe and x800xt and 6800GT or Ultra are good enough to play BF2.
7800 delivers 6800U SLI in far fewer games than you think. Saying it delivers it in all games is just ridiculous. Check out xbitlabs, toms, anandtech and you'll see that it's certainly not the case.

 

[DidlySquat]

The realease date is Oct 11th not Aug 2nd, so that's 11 weeks away not 4 weeks. I really hope the engine is going to be optimized by then because it's inexcusable to have such slow performance given average looking graphics.

 

[fstime]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Drayvn
Rollo tell me this is just a big joke to you and ur just having a laugh.

Because saying the 7800GTX is a great buy because of a $50 game, is just pure bs.

Hey look guys i can play FEAR at 50FPS with my $600 card!!

And look i bough this card last week, and i havent even played the game or even seen the box. Im the coolest!

You'll have to excuse my hardware mania Dravyn, I get pretty excited when the new video cards come out.

The thing is, some people have been posting a lot of stuff about how there are no games, and thus no reason, to buy 7800s.

This game was supposed to be out June, and is now due between August and October, and the only single card that really runs it at all is the 7800GTX.

With Battlefield 2, you have a lot of people wondering why it doesn't play well for them, and the reason is probably sitting on their AGP/PCIE slot.

I really think this is the way forward, based on personal experience and reviews.

R520 and Crossfire are still MIA, so I can't recommend that?

BTW- I say the 7800 is a great buy not just because of this game, but because of the 6800U SLI performance on all games. That's a lot of power for $600..

Correction,


Battlefield 2 doesnt play very well because the EA engine sucks.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Drayvn
Rollo tell me this is just a big joke to you and ur just having a laugh.

Because saying the 7800GTX is a great buy because of a $50 game, is just pure bs.

Hey look guys i can play FEAR at 50FPS with my $600 card!!

And look i bough this card last week, and i havent even played the game or even seen the box. Im the coolest!

You'll have to excuse my hardware mania Dravyn, I get pretty excited when the new video cards come out.

The thing is, some people have been posting a lot of stuff about how there are no games, and thus no reason, to buy 7800s.

This game was supposed to be out June, and is now due between August and October, and the only single card that really runs it at all is the 7800GTX.

With Battlefield 2, you have a lot of people wondering why it doesn't play well for them, and the reason is probably sitting on their AGP/PCIE slot.

I really think this is the way forward, based on personal experience and reviews.

R520 and Crossfire are still MIA, so I can't recommend that?

BTW- I say the 7800 is a great buy not just because of this game, but because of the 6800U SLI performance on all games. That's a lot of power for $600..

Nah...BF2 is more memory dependent. Acanthus had a thread on this... I'm fine with my "little" 6800NU and "little" 1280x1024 LCD.

 

[ponyo]

Look, Rollo is just earning his pay. You don't think Nvidia gives him discounts on videocards for no reason do you? Same way spammers get paid by post, Rollo gets bigger discount everytime he pimps Nvidia.

 

[BFG10K]

don't know where you get "it's not really playable on nVidia either"-

From the benchmark results you yourself are pimping.

Most people would call having the choice between 60fps at 12X9 4X8X and 45fps at 16X12 4X8X "playable"?

I wouldn't.

If you don't there must be a LOT of games you don't consider "playable" on your X800XL BFG!

I'm sorry, where did I claim I used those settings anywhere? You're the one that appears to be stuck in middling res 1600x1200 and 8xAF mode on a $1200 setup, probably a twitch reflex from your 5800U fetish days.

What about at Battlefield 2?

What about it? What does that have to do with this troll thread?

You'll have to excuse my hardware mania Dravyn, I get pretty excited when the new video cards come out.

So how new was the 5800 when you purchased it for the third time? You're not excited about new video cards, you're an nV fanboy. The fact that your buddy works for nVidia leads me to believe that your loyalty goes deeper than just fanboyism.

It's also unbelievable how many times you change your tune whenever it's required to make nVidia look good. I mean you're having a go at me for not running games at 1600x1200/8/4 and then you turn around and start telling us that soft shadows are viable when AF and AA is disabled at 1280x960. If I didn't know you were such a fanboy I'd seriously question your mental competency.

 

[DidlySquat]

Spending $1200 on video cards is a little crazy but admittedly not as bad as spending $700 for 2x6800NU SLI setup which is slower then a single X800XL card. And that was just a few months ago, and in between he went for 2x6800GT SLI setup. At least with the 2x7800GTX and 2x6800GT you get the absolute best performance possible at the time (a very short window of time, but still) but what do you get from spending $700 on 2x6800NU when it's a lot slower then existing cards that are cheapr ? I guess we've established there is no logic to passion, or shall we call it madness.

 

[BFG10K]

You can also bet Rollo will call crossfire old technology when it comes out, all the while planning his fourth 5800 Ultra purchase.

"W00T! Games cowering at 1024x768" :roll:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
You can also bet Rollo will call crossfire old technology when it comes out, all the while planning his fourth 5800 Ultra purchase.

"W00T! Games cowering at 1024x768" :roll:

It's hard to call Crossfire anything as it was yet another paper launch, anyone else remember how reviewers were supposed to have samples in June?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Most people would call having the choice between 60fps at 12X9 4X8X and 45fps at 16X12 4X8X "playable"?

I wouldn't.

Dude you are lucky to get 60fps at any modern game on your card. Where do you get off saying it's not playable?

If you don't there must be a LOT of games you don't consider "playable" on your X800XL BFG!

I'm sorry, where did I claim I used those settings anywhere? You're the one that appears to be stuck in middling res 1600x1200 and 8xAF mode on a $1200 setup, probably a twitch reflex from your 5800U fetish days.

While it's true I play at either 16X12 or 19X14 these days, how do you with a mid range X800XL? At 3fps?

You'll have to excuse my hardware mania Dravyn, I get pretty excited when the new video cards come out.

So how new was the 5800 when you purchased it for the third time? You're not excited about new video cards, you're an nV fanboy. The fact that your buddy works for nVidia leads me to believe that your loyalty goes deeper than just fanboyism.

Errr yeah. My friend works at nV, so I owe them? It's a matter of ATI being unworthy of my support lately.

It's also unbelievable how many times you change your tune whenever it's required to make nVidia look good. I mean you're having a go at me for not running games at 1600x1200/8/4 and then you turn around and start telling us that soft shadows are viable when AF and AA is disabled at 1280x960. If I didn't know you were such a fanboy I'd seriously question your mental competency.

That's not too unbelievable. Trading some resolution/AA for new features like HDR or soft shadows?

 

[MegaWorks]

This thread proves that this a$$clown works with nVidia, how many times do I have to say it. He wants us to buy his POS products. Man from now on I'm only buying ATI video cards, Rollo just piss me of with he's stupid Anti-ATI thread. Go suck Jen-Hsun Huang solider if it makes you happy.

 

[Tab]

I am seeing a lot of strange reaction to F.E.A.R. Yes, it's obiviously extremely GPU intensive that doesn't mean it's a bad game. If you've watched any of the videos of the game or played the BETA can can clearly tell this game is made for those who have very high end systems. Don't judge the game just yet, it looks impressive to me.

While the game isn't complete and they didn't show us any of the in-game settings they used. I am without a doubt disapointed with the 7800 GTX's performence numbers. I should be getting a lot more out a $500 video card.

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: Tab
I am seeing a lot of strange reaction to F.E.A.R. Yes, it's obiviously extremely GPU intensive that doesn't mean it's a bad game. If you've watched any of the videos of the game or played the BETA can can clearly tell this game is made for those who have very high end systems. Don't judge the game just yet, it looks impressive to me.

While the game isn't complete and they didn't show us any of the in-game settings they used. I am without a doubt disapointed with the 7800 GTX's performence numbers. I should be getting a lot more out a $500 video card.

The game looks very impressive both in graphics and (based on previews) gameplay, however something that will only run with playable framerates on systems with a $600+ video is unacceptable no matter how good the game is. Of course the game is made for highend systems but that doesn't mean it should run like crap on $300 systems.

 

[n yusef]

/rant
I'm not the only one who is suspicious about you, Rollo. Buying an SLI set is one thing, but when a guy buys four, you start to think he's either an Bill Gates, or an idiot who thinks he's Bill Gates. Let's add:
3*5800U=$1200 (MSRPs)
2*6600GT=$400
2*6800NU=$600
2*6800GT=$800
+2*7800GTX=$1200
------------------------
$4200

Take of $700 for cheaper than MSRPs
=$3500

I've come to one of three conclusions:
1) You're a millionaire (unlikely)
2) You're lying (possible)
3) You get the cards for free/cheap from nVidia (most likely, since you have REFERENCE cards, which are hard to get retail)

One thing that I'm skeptical on, is that you have these SLI sets that are inferior to your (then best) 6800GTs, but you kept them anyway. Do you think $1000 is a good investment if all you do is benchmark for FREE (supposedly) on a message board?

How do you get all of these video cards that you have, and if you say that you pay full price for them, how much exactly do you make, and what do you do for a living (work at nVidia as the Anandtech Video troll?)

I've posted before saying that I can spend all of my money on video cards too, but I have another hobby, photography, which has me spending money on lenses, and now (I used to be a film guy, but I got a nice DSLR recently), an upgrade to my computer for Photoshop (when X2 prices come down, I plan on getting a 4400+ and another GB of RAM).

While this is just as (more, even, depending on what lenses you buy) expensive initially than your video card obsession, it's 1,000,000x more futureproof. I have some lenses that my dad used before I was born (1980), and they still work with my camera (albeit, with some feature missing--any lenses from the early 90s on are pretty much still good though). I'm sure when the 7800U comes out, you'll get an SLI set of those, and maybe 7800GTs and 7800NUs too.

I can't be the only one here who has started to see your blatant fanboyism to nVidia, and SLI in particular. It's come to a point where you post a thread about a game where you make NO snese. We all know that average FPS mean nothing, and minimums determine playability. For two 7800GTXs, at 1280*1024 4xAA/8xAF no soft shadows, it goes below 40FPS 36% of the time. This is not playable, and it isn't even 1600*1200. For $1200, I should be able to do that, shouldn't I? Since no otehr game out is even half as slow as this, and others look better, this shows how this game is so inefficiently coded, and will not sell well at all. For every gamer that has one 7800GTX, at lest 5,000 more don't. Any dimwitted developer know you have to code for the majority of consumers, not the five hundred people with $1200 video set ups.
/rant

 

[PerfeK]

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: Tab
I am seeing a lot of strange reaction to F.E.A.R. Yes, it's obiviously extremely GPU intensive that doesn't mean it's a bad game. If you've watched any of the videos of the game or played the BETA can can clearly tell this game is made for those who have very high end systems. Don't judge the game just yet, it looks impressive to me.

While the game isn't complete and they didn't show us any of the in-game settings they used. I am without a doubt disapointed with the 7800 GTX's performence numbers. I should be getting a lot more out a $500 video card.

The game looks very impressive both in graphics and (based on previews) gameplay, however something that will only run with playable framerates on systems with a $600+ video is unacceptable no matter how good the game is. Of course the game is made for highend systems but that doesn't mean it should run like crap on $300 systems.

God won't smite you if you just turn down the settings. Putting everything on Low/Med is like putting everything on Med/High in HL2.

 

[imported_g33k]

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
This thread proves that this a$$clown works with nVidia, how many times do I have to say it. He wants us to buy his POS products. Man from now on I'm only buying ATI video cards, Rollo just piss me of with he's stupid Anti-ATI thread. Go suck Jen-Hsun Huang solider if it makes you happy.

Rollo makes some valid points. And I've never seen him insult people, the way you just did. If you want the absolute best out there right now, than 7800 or 7800 sli is the way to go.

 

[Barfo]

 

[Barfo]

"Want to play F.E.A.R.?"

you'll have to wait until it's released, regardless if you have a 7800 GTX SLI or Integrated Video

 

[DidlySquat]

This thread title should be changed to "I told you all you would need to spend $1200 on SLI like me just to play the newest games". Err, no - any game that doesn't have good performance at high detail level and resolutions using a sub $300 video card (and $300 is expecting a lot from the PC gaming public) will not sell.

 

[BFG10K]

Dude you are lucky to get 60fps at any modern game on your card.

You have no idea what games I play, what settings I play them at or how fast they run.

While it's true I play at either 16X12 or 19X14 these days, how do you with a mid range X800XL?

Usually about the same as a 6800U; sometimes faster (MOHPA, Far Cry) sometimes slower (Doom 3, SOF2). I wouldn't say either card tools either really.

It's a matter of ATI being unworthy of my support lately.

So because the 5800U was the best card ever made that's why you chose to support nVidia by purchasing it three times?

Trading some resolution/AA for new features like HDR or soft shadows?

So a $1200 setup is superior because you can run at low resolution mush with a 1999 feature-set (no AA or AF) and get soft shadows? This is this what constitutes nVidia's superiority and deems $1200 a worthy spend?

The fact is a 7800 SLI setup is very fast but still runs this game at unplayable levels, especially with soft shadows which are quite frankly completely out of its league.