Walmart Shopper Tackled For Not Showing Receipt

[NFS4]

Why do people have to be such jackasses these days. How hard is it for someone to keep their receipt out and show it to them, they are just doing their job and the company is trying to prevent theft of goods.

By making a production, telling them to call the police, etc. you have likely spent more time doing that than it would have taken to just show the receipt.

I guess it's just some sort of power trip or something?. I don't know.

KT

When I shop, I normally put my receipt in my wallet along with the CC/Debit card that I just used since putting the receipt in the bag normally means that I'll end up throwing it away.

If I'm walking out with a few bagfuls of groceries, it's an inconvenience to have to dig through my wallet to produce a receipt.

Besides, half of the time they don't even look at the contents of the receipt anyway -- they just swipe it with a black magic marker to make it look they are actually doing work.

 

[Wheezer]

Christ, just show the fucking receipt.

Idiots like this guy do shit like this because they have very little else going on in their lives and they think ruffling the feathers of a walmart employee is somehow showing that they are not afraid of the man and will give them street creds at the water cooler.

+1 for douchebag.

 

[OutHouse]

It's not about making a scene. It's not about being quick. It's not about them doing their job. It's about my rights.

I'm not going to be treated as a thief. If they think I am a thief then they can feel free to use their rights to keep me off their property. It's not my problem if they can't control theft. Maybe they should hire police officers to guard the store, or perhaps not open stores in high risk areas? It's funny how the walmart in the good side of town doesn't check receipts. I spent 3000.00 at the apple store in my mall, I didn't get checked for a receipt at the door. Yet I buy a couple of video games that required some kid to unlock a glass case and suddenly I might be a thief? Bullshit.

I protect my rights. I find my rights to be very important to me. We lose our rights more and more every single day because we don't care. Who cares if they can tap my phone with out a warrant, I'm not breaking any laws and it might stop terrorism. Who cares if just anybody can search my belongings for any reason. If you won't protect your rights, then you don't deserve them.

By making it more time consuming and costly to deal with me I force them to make a decision. They can waste their time on me, or implement real loss prevention. If everyone did this, it would waste so much time they would abandon the idea.

I learned this as a teenager when I was charged with a crime because I tried to help the police. My friend sold me some computer equipment and a few months later was arrested for thieft from the computer store he worked at. At that point I was worried my equipment was stolen so I called the police. They took my stuff, then brought me in to 'give a statement'. Being young I didn't know my rights and actually spent time in a room with an officer 'just helping clear up a few things'. Next thing I know I'm told "I think you knew you were buying stolen goods". I learned right there I should of declined to be questioned and in fact probably should of not even called the police in the first place.

From that day I learned that no matter how trivial, it is important to protect your rights. Sure it makes people's jobs harder, it annoys a lot of people, and maybe to you I'm doing it to make a scene or get attention. But I have a right to keep that stuff to myself. Maybe I don't want the lady to know that I just bought a wii fit to do yoga or some silly kids game. Maybe the cashier rang up the receipt wrong and it saved me money. I'd rather find out at home then in the store where I might be accused of stealing. Or hell, maybe (and this is the real reason) I just don't want to. It's my right.

Then have their rights. Then can call the police. They can ban me from their store (I can't eat at buffalo wild wings because I carry a pistol for example). They could even have a employee walk the product up to the cashier and then watch the transaction and then follow me to the door. But they can't force me to show them my property or receipt.

dude not only are you a prick but a dumb prick. if YOU dont like a stores policy then dont fucking shop there. NONE of the walmarts in my area check receipts unless you set off the detectors while leaving the store.

I really don't give a crap even if they did check my receipts, its a job for somebody and it doesn't hurt anybody. you have a real complex if you feel that you are being treated like a thief if store employee ask to see your receipt. you talk about protecting your rights who are you protecting them from Walmart? lol if that concerns you so much don't fucking shop there its that simple.

 

[lokiju]

I really got into it one time at a Tiger Direct store in Miami, FL years ago.

Told them to either let me go or call the police because I had paid and he was illegally detaining me.

Fat fucker wanna be cop wouldn't budge so I called the cops, they came, told the dipshit to let me go and told me to comply next time to make things easier.

It was a similar situation but they didn't have a door greeter or checker, just some dipshit rent a cop that asked me for my receipt after I was already half out the door of the store, he wasn't even at the door, but off to the side at a counter BS'ing with an employee.

 

[illusion88]

I'm surprised they even have a "chase" policy. I'm sure that costs Walmart more money than it saves. The next time this happens it's going to go to lawyers, probably end up as a settlement, Walmart does not want something like this to go to court.

 

[darkxshade]

I don't shop at walmart but shouldn't there be some kind of anti-theft thing on something like an xbox360? What's stopping him from taking the receipt he had from the 1st purchase, walk into walmart and just jack 360's all the while showing his receipt on the way out?

 

[Josh]

I really got into it one time at a Tiger Direct store in Miami, FL years ago.

Told them to either let me go or call the police because I had paid and he was illegally detaining me.

Fat fucker wanna be cop wouldn't budge so I called the cops, they came, told the dipshit to let me go and told me to comply next time to make things easier.

It was a similar situation but they didn't have a door greeter or checker, just some dipshit rent a cop that asked me for my receipt after I was already half out the door of the store, he wasn't even at the door, but off to the side at a counter BS'ing with an employee.

As far as I know, I don't believe that mall "cops", or any loss prevention officers are allowed to physically touch you in any way unless you first put your hands on them.

So, you should have just left and told them to fuck off. If they touch you, you sue. That's why stores actually have even fired loss prevention people from their jobs because they put their hands on customers that actually WERE stealing. It's a huge liability for them.

See:

http://caveatemptorblog.com/four-ho...enting-loss-violating-loss-prevention-policy/

http://www.ocala.com/article/20091021/ARTICLES/910211015/1402/NEWS

 

[Miramonti]

I wonder if the pantyhose over his head made a difference in the outcome.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

People who don't want to show their receipts are fine. It's when you shop at walmart knowing full well there's going to be a guy at the exit asking you for your receipt. At that point you are a douche bag.

 

[Nitemare]

Most retail stores fire non-LP associates that pursue alleged shoplifters outside of the store.

 

[hanoverphist]

This is news, and belongs in P&N. Also, OP is required to state his own opinion when posting a news article.

Having said that, I know darn well there is no law in any of the 50 states requiring me to comply with store employees and open my personal property up for their inspection. I know cuz we hear these stories all the time and I actually looked it up.

Having said THAT, I'd rather be helpful and work with them, since they are just trying to protect their business and keep prices low for everyone. Getting an attitude about it really doesnt help anybody. If I didnt like this practice I would simply not shop there anymore. Same with Best Buy and others.

when they state their reasons for checking as "to make sure the cashier didnt overcharge you" id say they are full of shit. if theres a line to show receipts, ill walk on past. if they ask me to show it still, i will usually. ive only been followed out of a store once, and when the guy started reaching for my arm i turned and told him he had better think twice before touching me. he didnt, i showed him the receipt and got his name, walked back in and talked to the manager about it. for the most part i dont care about having to show the receipt at the door, but make sure there isnt a line for it.

 

[Svnla]

It is odd. I did shop at many WMs in the US Southern states and they never ever ask for a receipt. But I do have to do it at Sams Club and no, we do not have any Costco near by.

 

[grrl]

The tackler overreacted, but is it that hard to show your receipt?

 

[mizzou]

i took a guitar hero box through the garden/home entrance to return and it caused a huge ruckus. *edit*was exchanging it for one which actually works. It was the closest entry point to my parking space. Don't have this problem anywhere else because only super walmart to my knowledge has multiple entrances.

Now they have huge signs posted "RETURNS MUST GO THROUGH MARKET ENTRANCE"

I could have easily just grabbed a box, showed them my receipt and then walked out multiple times until they recognized, theres no way to tell any different.

 

[mizzou]

I don't shop at walmart but shouldn't there be some kind of anti-theft thing on something like an xbox360? What's stopping him from taking the receipt he had from the 1st purchase, walk into walmart and just jack 360's all the while showing his receipt on the way out?

theres nothing to prevent you from doing this, you REALLY can do it

 

[Mike Gayner]

If a guy tackled me and didn't get maced/shot/stabbed then he would for sure get sued. However, I don't run from those receipt checkers. I simply look at them, decline to show them my receipt and start walking. If they persist, I tell them that any attempt to keep me in their store is holding someone against their will illegally and that I will sue them. I then say that if they feel I have stolen from them they are free to call the police and if they police can reach me before I go on my way I will gladly deal with that officer.

Then I start walking again. I've never been stopped. I did have a few best buy employees try to stop me once for stealing (not receipt checking related). I was wearing my 'big' gun that day (Walther P99 .40) and apparently it was sticking out making it look like I had something tucked in my pants. I had spent a lot of time in the video game area looking at games but didn't find anything I desired. So naturally they thought I had stuffed a game down my pants.

I told the 2 guys that approached me that I did not steal anything. They pointed to my back and I told them I was not about to brandish in their store and if they doubted me to call the police to search me, but I was not staying. I was again calm and polite. As I started back out one of them started to reach for me but his co-worker told him not to do anything. I guess the police were called before hand this time as they stopped me in the parking lot as I was getting in my car. I showed them my permit and my pistol, they searched me, found nothing (of course) and then let me go on my way.

There is no reason to be a dick about protecting your rights. If you are going to protect them, then do it calmly, pleasantly, and explain yourself. In that second case I was partially at fault for allowing my firearm to print. I just make sure to explain my reasoning in a calm tone and then move on to what I'm doing. If they try to stop me, then I will take action such as calling the police and getting a police report. I also realize this may get me banned from stores. I have no problem with that at all.

Wouldn't it have been easier to just show the receipt? Then again, you're a typical gun toting idiot, so I don't expect much from you.

 

[mizzou]

If a guy tackled me and didn't get maced/shot/stabbed then he would for sure get sued. However, I don't run from those receipt checkers. I simply look at them, decline to show them my receipt and start walking. If they persist, I tell them that any attempt to keep me in their store is holding someone against their will illegally and that I will sue them. I then say that if they feel I have stolen from them they are free to call the police and if they police can reach me before I go on my way I will gladly deal with that officer.

Then I start walking again. I've never been stopped. I did have a few best buy employees try to stop me once for stealing (not receipt checking related). I was wearing my 'big' gun that day (Walther P99 .40) and apparently it was sticking out making it look like I had something tucked in my pants. I had spent a lot of time in the video game area looking at games but didn't find anything I desired. So naturally they thought I had stuffed a game down my pants.

I told the 2 guys that approached me that I did not steal anything. They pointed to my back and I told them I was not about to brandish in their store and if they doubted me to call the police to search me, but I was not staying. I was again calm and polite. As I started back out one of them started to reach for me but his co-worker told him not to do anything. I guess the police were called before hand this time as they stopped me in the parking lot as I was getting in my car. I showed them my permit and my pistol, they searched me, found nothing (of course) and then let me go on my way.

There is no reason to be a dick about protecting your rights. If you are going to protect them, then do it calmly, pleasantly, and explain yourself. In that second case I was partially at fault for allowing my firearm to print. I just make sure to explain my reasoning in a calm tone and then move on to what I'm doing. If they try to stop me, then I will take action such as calling the police and getting a police report. I also realize this may get me banned from stores. I have no problem with that at all.

from working at a Big box retailer, CC... when someone steals something, you can only act if you witness them in the act either on camera real time or with your eyes. Once you witness it, you contact the police immediately and do your best to get a description of the perp. Under NO circumstance should you ever try to interrogate someone or restrain someone when it comes to theft (physical assault is different)

Seriously, nobody wants to get stabbed by the psycho stealing PS2 games or stuck with a HIV infected needle. These stories of employees acting all gung-ho are ridiculous.

 

[squirrel dog]

I carry my receipt in my hand when leaving.Is that a big problem?Well is it ???

 

[SunSamurai]

Christ, just show the fucking receipt.

Idiots like this guy do shit like this because they have very little else going on in their lives and they think ruffling the feathers of a walmart employee is somehow showing that they are not afraid of the man and will give them street creds at the water cooler.

+1 for douchebag.

"Those who give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty or security."

+1 communist to you.

 

[mugs]

"Those who give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty or security."

+1 communist to you.

You do not give up any liberty by willingly allowing someone to check your receipt as you walk out a door. There is nothing wrong with choosing not to exercise a right in the interest of being a polite member of society.

 

[lurk3r]

Definitely should have called and pressed charges against the tackler, and reported his xbox stolen by the door nazi. Even the fat and stupid deserve some protection.

 

[spidey07]

Definitely should have called and pressed charges against the tackler, and reported his xbox stolen by the door nazi. Even the fat and stupid deserve some protection.

And most likely wouldn't have a case. Tackler can easily say and the story would support it of him trying to stop a thief.

 

[BudAshes]

If you shop at walmart you deserve worse than this guy got.

 

[jlee]

If a guy tackled me and didn't get maced/shot/stabbed then he would for sure get sued. However, I don't run from those receipt checkers. I simply look at them, decline to show them my receipt and start walking. If they persist, I tell them that any attempt to keep me in their store is holding someone against their will illegally and that I will sue them. I then say that if they feel I have stolen from them they are free to call the police and if they police can reach me before I go on my way I will gladly deal with that officer.

Then I start walking again. I've never been stopped. I did have a few best buy employees try to stop me once for stealing (not receipt checking related). I was wearing my 'big' gun that day (Walther P99 .40) and apparently it was sticking out making it look like I had something tucked in my pants. I had spent a lot of time in the video game area looking at games but didn't find anything I desired. So naturally they thought I had stuffed a game down my pants.

I told the 2 guys that approached me that I did not steal anything. They pointed to my back and I told them I was not about to brandish in their store and if they doubted me to call the police to search me, but I was not staying. I was again calm and polite. As I started back out one of them started to reach for me but his co-worker told him not to do anything. I guess the police were called before hand this time as they stopped me in the parking lot as I was getting in my car. I showed them my permit and my pistol, they searched me, found nothing (of course) and then let me go on my way.

There is no reason to be a dick about protecting your rights. If you are going to protect them, then do it calmly, pleasantly, and explain yourself. In that second case I was partially at fault for allowing my firearm to print. I just make sure to explain my reasoning in a calm tone and then move on to what I'm doing. If they try to stop me, then I will take action such as calling the police and getting a police report. I also realize this may get me banned from stores. I have no problem with that at all.

If you're not in an open carry state, you should start shopping for a better holster..

As far as I know, I don't believe that mall "cops", or any loss prevention officers are allowed to physically touch you in any way unless you first put your hands on them.

So, you should have just left and told them to fuck off. If they touch you, you sue. That's why stores actually have even fired loss prevention people from their jobs because they put their hands on customers that actually WERE stealing. It's a huge liability for them.

See:

http://caveatemptorblog.com/four-ho...enting-loss-violating-loss-prevention-policy/

http://www.ocala.com/article/20091021/ARTICLES/910211015/1402/NEWS

That will depend on your local law - here's ours:

627:8-a Use of Force by Merchants. –
I. A merchant, or his or her agent, is justified in detaining any person who he or she has reasonable grounds to believe has committed the offense of willful concealment or shoplifting, as defined by RSA 644:17, on his or her premises as long as necessary to surrender the person to a peace officer, provided such detention is conducted in a reasonable manner.

"Those who give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty or security."

+1 communist to you.

Right, because a private corporation doing something on private property is the same as the government taking your rights away.

Grow a brain.

 

[BrownTown]

I carry my receipt in my hand when leaving.Is that a big problem?Well is it ???

I do this too, but my natural instinct is to throw away a useless piece of paper in my hand at the nearest waste basket. This has resulted in several instances where a wallmart employee has tried to accuse me of stealing some product (which really is quite insulting when you make 100k and someone treats you like somebody who needs to steal 20$ items). A couple times i have just walked the greeter guy back to the line where i bought it and had the person there validate that i had actually bought it. Other times I don't feal like wasting time and just walk out with the guy calling after me. Never had one pursue past the doors though.