Walmart is a great example of Lemon Socialism.

[peonyu]

Perhaps you could explain how a single woman is suppose to support a family when the best job she can get is making $10/hr at walmart?

It should be obvious that having a husband would make things better. If only because of the increased income.

Meh, thats progress for you. I know some Women who have 5 kids and each kid has a different father. Your talking to a wall if you expect a person like that to understand the concept of a husband, let alone a condom or birth control.

Abortion though ? Oh boy, dont even go there unless you are pro choice.

 

[Soundmanred]

this is what happens when you inflate titles. Some one that can now fix a chasiers mistake is a 'manager'

This is why the people working for Hostess thought they were worth more. They called them "Bakers" and other terms that really were nothing more than button pushers.
That's like calling myself a chef just because I cook a good dinner once in a while.

 

[waggy]

This is why the people working for Hostess thought they were worth more. They called them "Bakers" and other terms that really were nothing more than button pushers.
That's like calling myself a chef just because I cook a good dinner once in a while.

im a chef. i can put the tray in the Microwave better then anyone!

 

[Infohawk]

But to think a unskilled job that is usually taken by teens/college and retired be able to support a family is insane.

People have been having families in poverty from the beginning of the species. Suggesting people shouldn't have families with low-wage job is just a waste of time.

 

[Juror No. 8]

The U.S. federal government Mafia spent the 60s, 70s, and 80s overtaxing and regulating American manufacturers and businesses until they either went broke, closed shop, sold out to larger corporations, or moved their operations overseas. All the while, the Left cheered. For them, all those greedy American capitalists were finally getting what they deserved.

Fast forward a few decades, and the same Left that used to cheer for higher taxes and more regulations is now crying foul over the conditions and the scummy, lowest common denominator corporations like WalMarx their policies created.

Such a target-rich LOL environment.

 

[techs]

Why would walmart raise pay just because their workers can't get benefits.
If there were no benefits people would be working two jobs, increasing the available work pool.
In fact walmart might lower salaries.

Until enough people die of hunger walmart would be doing great.

 

[nehalem256]

Meh, thats progress for you. I know some Women who have 5 kids and each kid has a different father. Your talking to a wall if you expect a person like that to understand the concept of a husband, let alone a condom or birth control.

Abortion though ? Oh boy, dont even go there unless you are pro choice.

How does being pro-choice help with people who make bad choices?

 

[wuliheron]

It's not socialism, it's corporate welfare which the republican dominated government of the last 40 years supported. Walmart themselves supported the republican party up until recently because they knew it would keep the welfare money coming their way.

 

[JEDIYoda]

who said only college? not everyone is for college.

how about learning a trade? there is no shame in construction, plumbing, electrician etc.

not everyone is or should go to college. But to expect to be able to support a family on a unskilled cashier job? no.

I agree!! Put a jack hammer in her hands....

 

[Acanthus]

Something doesn't add up. Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr ($15k/year full time) and Washinton state has a minimum wage of $9.04/hr ($18k/year).

Take home =/= Lean =/= Gross

Probably accounts for the discrepancy.

She probably gets some expensive bennies and is accounting for taxes.

 

[Nemesis 1]

We get it, a woman doesn't know how to take care of herself without a husband to show her what to do.

History its a pest. In the 50s their was a fundamental change in how americans raised their families. To live a better life style The women went to work ., Kinda of a carry over from WWII. But to have the nice home and car and lasse. America transformed its family . Than the 60s Young Americans threw morals out the window when seeing vietnam war victoms on the news. Questioning the morals of War . Than the 70s The moral decay and family was losr forever it becomes so bad that by the year 2000 the idea of killling unborn children and gay marriage and single mom families became popular ideas and deeds. Up to the point not more than 144,000 rightious men remained in the world . None of which would be lost . Its over Even tho all these things been withs us from the beginning . Never has it been seen as acceptable behaviour until now .

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Think about it, if the foodstamps and other federal taxpayer benefits were not around, no one would work for 14K a year at walmart since it would not be enough to survive, so Walmart would be forced to pay higher wages if the wish to attract employees.

Yeah, that's not how it actually works in the real world, lol. If there was no social safety net, people would work for whatever they could in order to put a roof of any sort over their heads and food of any type into their mouths.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

You have to be pretty dumb to not be able to work above a cashier.

A few years ago, a buddy from work and I went to lunch at an Arby's close to our workplace. When it was my turn to order, I ordered a combo. I don't remember the exact number, but for the sake of the story, let's say it came to $7.60. I handed the cashier a $10 bill. She did her thing with the cash register and just started staring at the change owed on the register. She could not figure out how to give me $2.40 back. She turned and asked her manager "What do I give him?" He stared at the cash register and quickly said "Give him two dollars, a quarter, a dime, and a nickel." She turned back around and forgot what he said and could not make change. She gave up and literally grabbed a fistful of change and slid it across the counter to me. It was very sad.

The moral of the story? There are people who can't even work as a cashier, which is typically a minimum wage job.

 

[Doppel]

A few years ago, a buddy from work and I went to lunch at an Arby's close to our workplace. When it was my turn to order, I ordered a combo. I don't remember the exact number, but for the sake of the story, let's say it came to $7.60. I handed the cashier a $10 bill. She did her thing with the cash register and just started staring at the change owed on the register. She could not figure out how to give me $2.40 back. She turned and asked her manager "What do I give him?" He stared at the cash register and quickly said "Give him two dollars, a quarter, a dime, and a nickel." She turned back around and forgot what he said and could not make change. She gave up and literally grabbed a fistful of change and slid it across the counter to me. It was very sad.

The moral of the story? There are people who can't even work as a cashier, which is typically a minimum wage job.

Yep, it is true. You have to be dumb to be unable to work above cashier, but many people are dumb and so they can never function beyond that capacity.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

The question then is -- what do we do with such people?

 

[nehalem256]

A few years ago, a buddy from work and I went to lunch at an Arby's close to our workplace. When it was my turn to order, I ordered a combo. I don't remember the exact number, but for the sake of the story, let's say it came to $7.60. I handed the cashier a $10 bill. She did her thing with the cash register and just started staring at the change owed on the register. She could not figure out how to give me $2.40 back. She turned and asked her manager "What do I give him?" He stared at the cash register and quickly said "Give him two dollars, a quarter, a dime, and a nickel." She turned back around and forgot what he said and could not make change. She gave up and literally grabbed a fistful of change and slid it across the counter to me. It was very sad.

The moral of the story? There are people who can't even work as a cashier, which is typically a minimum wage job.

Yep, it is true. You have to be dumb to be unable to work above cashier, but many people are dumb and so they can never function beyond that capacity.

The question then is -- what do we do with such people?

Honestly I think the problem is more with laziness than actual stupidity. If you really cannot even figure out how to give change and are not legitimately retarded. WOW.

How did she even manage to get to work?

Although the scary thing might be that liberals apparently think that women who cannot make basic change from a cash register should be allowed to make choices about their body that have a profound affect on society.

 

[infoiltrator]

Point, you cannot live on minimum wage in the USA.
Rent easily eats up most of your income. For everyone.
Food Stamps, energy assistance, etc make it, barely possible to get by.

Walmart shoppers, going for big store/low prices "chose" by voting with their money to support Walmart and its policies.
Walmart often leverages tax breaks to exist in a community, ans destroys small preexisting stores.

Blame your buying habits and politicians.

Most communities protect property values for tax purposes which drives up rents.
Some form of rent subsidies become necessary.

The traditional answer to high rent is to stuff more people into less space.

Traditionally "entry level" jobs have been just that. A way to aquire a work history and job skills. Unfortunately too many are stuck there.

No one can guarranty marriage or birth control, no one here is going to mean it when they they say "no loving" is good.

No one can stop break ups, or outright "runaway" partners.

No one can stop disabilities, accident, or illness. No one wants to provide day care for workers.

i DO NOT KNOW OF ANY JOBS AT PRESENT that do not require a resume and some kind of skills test. If the cashier can't count either they are not trained or are frightened into brain fade. Or managenment can not find anyone else, or they are related, or are part of a subsidized work program.

No one is perfect.

My cousin had a brain tumor removed. She tries very hard. After ten years she still does not function well, some days better than others.
Costs were devastating. If anyone has a solution I would like to hear it.

I am on disability for Carchot Marie Tooth Disease, a genetic disorder. Among other medical difficulties. CMT became known in the 1960s I think. I have job skills I can no longer use, nor work more than limited part time.

You can warehouse people with learning or medical disabilities. This has been deemed inhumane and/or too expensive.

I suspect most people replying here are young, healthy, employed with good prospects.

When it is your parents, brothers or sisters, or inlaws, stuck on minimum wage, will you be so quick to judge.

 

[emperus]

walmart had nothing to do with that. talk to the govenment.

btw i agree 100% that is the major problem we have.

damn right! fuck she shouldn't been allowed out of the kitchen in the first place!

:whiste:

1.) Walmart forces people to work 32 hour shifts to avoid all the compensation that comes with 40 hour work weeks. Hence how she can make 14,000 a year

2.) What do you expect to happen when a global company buys it's stuff from China and forces companies because of buying power to give them deals on products. They drive down their prices, and force their competition to drive down their prices to compete. And since Wlamart sells so much because they have soo MANY stores, they can say profitable by making less profit on their huge quantity of sales. All the local competition gets driven out the market, and so do more good paying local jobs. We get lower prices but also subside the profits of the Waltons as most of their employees are on Welfare, get subsidized housing and probably low care medical treatments. You should look at the whole picture.

3.) Lastly, when localities cut spending to education, cut local colleges and university spending (to give tax cuts to companies like Walmart), we have a system where college is so expensive, and we have a race to the bottom in terms of employee compensation because of ignorant people like you. What type of jobs do you think people with get?

But Waggy, I enjoy all your uninformed posts. Keet it up.

 

[DominionSeraph]

who said only college? not everyone is for college.

how about learning a trade? there is no shame in construction, plumbing, electrician etc.

And how many plumbers/electricians/construction workers do you need? We are in a housing glut, and there are only so many clogged toilets per day. There's no shortage of people in those trades.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Just heard something on the radio, this is a summary from memory so I could be slightly inaccurate. All retailers moving all associates to 25k per year would lift 700,000 families from poverty it would be effectively a 16-18 billion private stimulus (most folks at 25k per year spend 90% of earnings). Impact to the consumer would equal approximately $.15-.25 per visit (they weren't clear if this was a door count or transaction count). The impact to consumers could easily be offset by smaller corporate stock buy backs, the top 10 retailers last year purchased 20 billion worth of their own stock. This is usually done to improve balance sheets and convert profits to future cash flow.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

And how many plumbers/electricians/construction workers do you need? We are in a housing glut, and there are only so many clogged toilets per day. There's no shortage of people in those trades.

Depends where you are the housing market is picking up in some places & skilled labor is getting hard to find. Detroit you're wasting your time Boston you have ample work to do.

 

[Matt1970]

1.) Walmart forces people to work 32 hour shifts to avoid all the compensation that comes with 40 hour work weeks. Hence how she can make 14,000 a year

2.) What do you expect to happen when a global company buys it's stuff from China and forces companies because of buying power to give them deals on products. They drive down their prices, and force their competition to drive down their prices to compete. And since Wlamart sells so much because they have soo MANY stores, they can say profitable by making less profit on their huge quantity of sales. All the local competition gets driven out the market, and so do more good paying local jobs. We get lower prices but also subside the profits of the Waltons as most of their employees are on Welfare, get subsidized housing and probably low care medical treatments. You should look at the whole picture.

3.) Lastly, when localities cut spending to education, cut local colleges and university spending (to give tax cuts to companies like Walmart), we have a system where college is so expensive, and we have a race to the bottom in terms of employee compensation because of ignorant people like you. What type of jobs do you think people with get?

But Waggy, I enjoy all your uninformed posts. Keet it up.

Speaking of uninformed, there are no laws that require and different compensation if you work 40 hours a week. There is no union at Walmart.

 

[nehalem256]

Point, you cannot live on minimum wage in the USA.
Rent easily eats up most of your income. For everyone.
Food Stamps, energy assistance, etc make it, barely possible to get by.

Minimum wage you would make say around ~$14000/year.

You can find housing for say $600/month. This is based on a previous discussion where there was such an Apartment within a block of men. Said apartment is also within walking distance of Walmart .

So its closer to half your income on rent.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Minimum wage you would make say around ~$14000/year.

such an Apartment within a block of MEN. Said apartment is also within walking distance of Walmart .

You need to work as a hooker to fill the income gap too. This applies to guys also.
More seriously on average it's not possible to pay rent on minimum wage in any state.

 

[Smoblikat]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/nov/15/walmart-walkout-action-black-friday

Seattle Walmart worker Sara Gilbert said she had taken the decision to go on strike to protest the fact that she could only make around $14,000 dollars a year. Despite working as a customer service manager, she said, her family remained reliant on food stamps and other benefits. "I work full time at the richest company in the world," she said.


Think about it, if the foodstamps and other federal taxpayer benefits were not around, no one would work for 14K a year at walmart since it would not be enough to survive, so Walmart would be forced to pay higher wages if the wish to attract employees.

But since The government at taxpayers expense pays for the food and other needs of Walmart employees, they can pay 14K and pocket the fat profits.

My entire reality has been shifted slightly.