Walmart is a great example of Lemon Socialism.

[Hugo Drax]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/nov/15/walmart-walkout-action-black-friday

Seattle Walmart worker Sara Gilbert said she had taken the decision to go on strike to protest the fact that she could only make around $14,000 dollars a year. Despite working as a customer service manager, she said, her family remained reliant on food stamps and other benefits. "I work full time at the richest company in the world," she said.


Think about it, if the foodstamps and other federal taxpayer benefits were not around, no one would work for 14K a year at walmart since it would not be enough to survive, so Walmart would be forced to pay higher wages if the wish to attract employees.

But since The government at taxpayers expense pays for the food and other needs of Walmart employees, they can pay 14K and pocket the fat profits.

 

[Jadow]

mind = blown

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Something doesn't add up. Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr ($15k/year full time) and Washinton state has a minimum wage of $9.04/hr ($18k/year).

 

[nehalem256]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/nov/15/walmart-walkout-action-black-friday

Seattle Walmart worker Sara Gilbert said she had taken the decision to go on strike to protest the fact that she could only make around $14,000 dollars a year. Despite working as a customer service manager, she said, her family remained reliant on food stamps and other benefits. "I work full time at the richest company in the world," she said.

Where is the woman's husband?

Also a Walmart CS manager is more like a shift supervisor than a manager.

 

[waggy]

Something doesn't add up. Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr ($15k/year full time) and Washinton state has a minimum wage of $9.04/hr ($18k/year).

yeah iw as going to say the story does not smell right..

Where is the woman's husband?

Also a Walmart CS manager is more like a shift supervisor than a manager.

CS managers are glorified cashiers. they fix mistakes, and do minor stuff. but still they make more then cashiers. When i worked at walmart (err 25 years ago?) i was making $.20 over Min wage.

the story really does not add up.

 

[nehalem256]

yeah iw as going to say the story does not smell right..

Well if she made $10/hr and was working 28 hours a week so Walmart could avoid ACA mandates the numbers line up

 

[Engineer]

Something doesn't add up. Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr ($15k/year full time) and Washinton state has a minimum wage of $9.04/hr ($18k/year).

What is considered "full time" where she works?

As for the OP, not surprising. There were stories a few years ago where WalMart was providing materials on what government benefits that people could take advantage of and encouraged "associated" to sign up on said benefits.

But WalMart isn't the problem....it's the millions of good paying, wealth creating jobs that left this country (maybe Walmart pushed them a little). That's what is ripping the foundation out and causing most of our problems.

 

[SheHateMe]

Where is the woman's husband?

Also a Walmart CS manager is more like a shift supervisor than a manager.

We get it, a woman doesn't know how to take care of herself without a husband to show her what to do.

 

[waggy]

But WalMart isn't the problem....it's the millions of good paying, wealth creating jobs that left this country (maybe Walmart pushed them a little). That's what is ripping the foundation out and causing most of our problems.

walmart had nothing to do with that. talk to the govenment.

btw i agree 100% that is the major problem we have.

We get it, a woman doesn't know how to take care of herself without a husband to show her what to do.

damn right! fuck she shouldn't been allowed out of the kitchen in the first place!

:whiste:

 

[nehalem256]

We get it, a woman doesn't know how to take care of herself without a husband to show her what to do.

Perhaps you could explain how a single woman is suppose to support a family when the best job she can get is making $10/hr at walmart?

It should be obvious that having a husband would make things better. If only because of the increased income.

 

[bononos]

Well if she made $10/hr and was working 28 hours a week so Walmart could avoid ACA mandates the numbers line up

Yes thats how it usually works. Its the same story for other big chain stores to avoid paying healthcare benefits by using part time labour.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

When the economy is at full employment we can think of welfare programs a subsidy for employers of low wage workers. However, during periods of high unemployment people at the bottom have to take what they can get so your premise only partially correct.

 

[Engineer]

walmart had nothing to do with that. talk to the govenment.

If you watch the "Age of WalMart" from CNBC, you'll realize that WalMart pushed vendors overseas to cut their price enough for WalMart to carry their products. It might not have been a "direct" statement to send overseas, but the writing on the wall was there.

But again, WalMart is not the main issue here. So called "Free Trade" is what has killed us (and helped Walmart) but Walmart has encouraged socialism in the past to "subsidize" their employees wages/benefits so that WalMart would not have to.

 

[waggy]

Perhaps you could explain how a single woman is suppose to support a family when the best job she can get is making $10/hr at walmart?

It should be obvious that having a husband would make things better. If only because of the increased income.

Perhaps she should have worked harder in school so that she would have a better job then walmart?

 

[waggy]

If you watch the "Age of WalMart" from CNBC, you'll realize that WalMart pushed vendors overseas to cut their price enough for WalMart to carry their products. It might not have been a "direct" statement to send overseas, but the writing on the wall was there.

But again, WalMart is not the main issue here. So called "Free Trade" is what has killed us (and helped Walmart) but Walmart has encouraged socialism in the past to "subsidize" their employees wages/benefits so that WalMart would not have to.

true.

but to attempt to blame walmart for it is insane. Walmart didn't force all thsoe company's to flee overseas.

this is something the government really needs to look at.

 

[Engineer]

Perhaps she should have worked harder in school so that she would have a better job then walmart?

Perhaps. Maybe if we send everyone to college, we won't have any more need for Walmart, McDonalds, etc. type of jobs. :hmm:

(or maybe we will have the smartest Walmart workforce in the country, still making minimum wage with their shiny new college degrees)?

 

[waggy]

Perhaps. Maybe if we send everyone to college, we won't have any more need for Walmart, McDonalds, etc. type of jobs. :hmm:

(or maybe we will have the smartest Walmart workforce in the country, still making minimum wage with their shiny new college degrees)?

who said only college? not everyone is for college.

how about learning a trade? there is no shame in construction, plumbing, electrician etc.

not everyone is or should go to college. But to expect to be able to support a family on a unskilled cashier job? no.

 

[Doppel]

It's true that the gov subsidizes these companies to an extent, even in this roundabout way.

BTW some people just are not smart enough to work in a capacity beyond menial walmart type stuff. They simply can't hack something that requires much thinking--including trades. And, yes, they will keep sh*ting out kids regardless.

 

[michal1980]

this is what happens when you inflate titles. Some one that can now fix a chasiers mistake is a 'manager'

 

[Engineer]

who said only college? not everyone is for college.

how about learning a trade? there is no shame in construction, plumbing, electrician etc.

not everyone is or should go to college. But to expect to be able to support a family on a unskilled cashier job? no.

The problem, as stated above, is that we don't have enough college or skilled trade jobs to support the people who go. Many, like now, would end up underemployed at places like Walmart.

 

[Engineer]

this is what happens when you inflate titles. Some one that can now fix a chasiers mistake is a 'manager'

You have obviously never worked in a retail establishment and actually see what most customer service managers do.

 

[nehalem256]

who said only college? not everyone is for college.

how about learning a trade? there is no shame in construction, plumbing, electrician etc.

not everyone is or should go to college. But to expect to be able to support a family on a unskilled cashier job? no.

You mean be able to support a family as an unskilled cashier with no husband.

It's true that the gov subsidizes these companies to an extent, even in this roundabout way.

BTW some people just are not smart enough to work in a capacity beyond menial walmart type stuff. They simply can't hack something that requires much thinking--including trades. And, yes, they will keep sh*ting out kids regardless.

You have to be pretty dumb to not be able to work above a cashier.

 

[waggy]

The problem, as stated above, is that we don't have enough college or skilled trade jobs to support the people who go. Many, like now, would end up underemployed at places like Walmart.

I agree that is something the nation needs to change. But to think a unskilled job that is usually taken by teens/college and retired be able to support a family is insane.

 

[waggy]

You mean be able to support a family as an unskilled cashier with no husband.

i didn't' see where it said if she had or did not have a husband. i didn't' see her age either.

A know a girl who is a walmart "manager". Its not what most people would describe as a manager. Its more like a chief cashier who you can trust not to rob the place blind

yeap. the CS ones were usuallyt he ones that ok'd expensive returns, fixed the register when it messed up. who would take the money out of the drawer and give you more etc.

just a step up from cashier.

 

[nehalem256]

You have obviously never worked in a retail establishment and actually see what most customer service managers do.

A know a girl who is a walmart "manager". Its not what most people would describe as a manager. Its more like a chief cashier who you can trust not to rob the place blind