Walmart: Always low prices on Nazi paraphernalia. Always.

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You people sure get your panties in a wad over little things. It is lucky most of you guys are young. If you would have been alive in the 60's you would have seen old WWII Nazi stuff all over the place being worn by bikers and available at any Army surplus store. You guys would have coughed up a lung.

Dude, you're completely missing the point. It's a chance to tear down a big evil corporation. Grab the torches and pitchforks!!!

The funny thing here is there are a bunch of kids running around wearing this shirt because it has a "cool skeleton head" on it, all the while having no idea the origins of the design. I bet all the whiners think the Skull & Crossbones are cool and that being on a shirt would be fine but considering it's origin and true meaning I guess they need to shift their view.

Can't say that I'd blame them. I'd be kind of pissed if I bought that shirt not knowing what it stood for and found out later that it was a symbol of Nazi Germany. Hell, until this thread I wouldn't have recognized that symbol as a symbol of Nazi Germany.

I'm guessing it was just a blunder on some purchasing agent's part though and not some big Nazi sympathizer conspiracy in the Walmart organization.

BTW-I don't shop at Walmart.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You people sure get your panties in a wad over little things. It is lucky most of you guys are young. If you would have been alive in the 60's you would have seen old WWII Nazi stuff all over the place being worn by bikers and available at any Army surplus store. You guys would have coughed up a lung.

Dude, you're completely missing the point. It's a chance to tear down a big evil corporation. Grab the torches and pitchforks!!!

The funny thing here is there are a bunch of kids running around wearing this shirt because it has a "cool skeleton head" on it, all the while having no idea the origins of the design. I bet all the whiners think the Skull & Crossbones are cool and that being on a shirt would be fine but considering it's origin and true meaning I guess they need to shift their view.

Can't say that I'd blame them. I'd be kind of pissed if I bought that shirt not knowing what it stood for and found out later that it was a symbol of Nazi Germany. Hell, until this thread I wouldn't have recognized that symbol as a symbol of Nazi Germany.

I'm guessing it was just a blunder on some purchasing agent's part though and not some big Nazi sympathizer conspiracy in the Walmart organization.

BTW-I don't shop at Walmart.

same here. i've watched a lot of stuff about WWII and can't say i've ever seen it used or if i did, i didn't think anything of it except that it was maybe like nose art type of thing on a plane.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: mugs
What does the text say?

"Since 1978". I think they got their dates a bit off, by 60 years or so.

i was wondering about that. is this a wal-mart made shirt or is it made by another company or what?

There is no such thing as a walmart made shirt. Everything sold in that store is made in China.

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You people sure get your panties in a wad over little things. It is lucky most of you guys are young. If you would have been alive in the 60's you would have seen old WWII Nazi stuff all over the place being worn by bikers and available at any Army surplus store. You guys would have coughed up a lung.

Yep.. today, it seems everyone is offended by any little thing.

Really? Would you like to open a street stand in Harlem selling "Stars'n'bars" shirts? Let us know how it works out. If you make it out alive, that is.

Your average WalMart shopper wouldn't have a clue the origin of the design on that t-shirt. Weak comparison. I bet you see these shirts mostly on 13 year old skaters wearing Vans and baggy pants.

107000 results on Google will disagree with you.

 

[da loser]

Che Guevara t-shirts

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: mugs
What does the text say?

"Since 1978". I think they got their dates a bit off, by 60 years or so.

i was wondering about that. is this a wal-mart made shirt or is it made by another company or what?

There is no such thing as a walmart made shirt. Everything sold in that store is made in China.

i meant is it made by haines or some other company like that or is it a wal-mart branded shirt?

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You people sure get your panties in a wad over little things. It is lucky most of you guys are young. If you would have been alive in the 60's you would have seen old WWII Nazi stuff all over the place being worn by bikers and available at any Army surplus store. You guys would have coughed up a lung.

Yep.. today, it seems everyone is offended by any little thing.

Really? Would you like to open a street stand in Harlem selling "Stars'n'bars" shirts? Let us know how it works out. If you make it out alive, that is.

Your average WalMart shopper wouldn't have a clue the origin of the design on that t-shirt. Weak comparison. I bet you see these shirts mostly on 13 year old skaters wearing Vans and baggy pants.

107000 results on Google will disagree with you.

and what exactly did you search for?

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You people sure get your panties in a wad over little things. It is lucky most of you guys are young. If you would have been alive in the 60's you would have seen old WWII Nazi stuff all over the place being worn by bikers and available at any Army surplus store. You guys would have coughed up a lung.

Dude, you're completely missing the point. It's a chance to tear down a big evil corporation. Grab the torches and pitchforks!!!

The funny thing here is there are a bunch of kids running around wearing this shirt because it has a "cool skeleton head" on it, all the while having no idea the origins of the design. I bet all the whiners think the Skull & Crossbones are cool and that being on a shirt would be fine but considering it's origin and true meaning I guess they need to shift their view.

Can't say that I'd blame them. I'd be kind of pissed if I bought that shirt not knowing what it stood for and found out later that it was a symbol of Nazi Germany. Hell, until this thread I wouldn't have recognized that symbol as a symbol of Nazi Germany.

I'm guessing it was just a blunder on some purchasing agent's part though and not some big Nazi sympathizer conspiracy in the Walmart organization.

BTW-I don't shop at Walmart.

I knew exactly what it is when I saw it. I even knew it was the symbol of the 3rd SS Panzer Division. If I could find one of these shirts today I would buy one just BECAUSE of the controversy. The problem is the Nazis were incredibly talented at designing their uniforms, insignia, and equipment so even though all of it represents a very dark and evil time.....it is hard to argue the stuff sure looks damned cool.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You people sure get your panties in a wad over little things. It is lucky most of you guys are young. If you would have been alive in the 60's you would have seen old WWII Nazi stuff all over the place being worn by bikers and available at any Army surplus store. You guys would have coughed up a lung.

Yep.. today, it seems everyone is offended by any little thing.

Really? Would you like to open a street stand in Harlem selling "Stars'n'bars" shirts? Let us know how it works out. If you make it out alive, that is.

Your average WalMart shopper wouldn't have a clue the origin of the design on that t-shirt. Weak comparison. I bet you see these shirts mostly on 13 year old skaters wearing Vans and baggy pants.

107000 results on Google will disagree with you.

Yeah right. This is along the lines of the Imus thing. People didn't know SQUAT until it was put up on a website in an attempt to malign WalMart and attract the knee-jerks.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You people sure get your panties in a wad over little things. It is lucky most of you guys are young. If you would have been alive in the 60's you would have seen old WWII Nazi stuff all over the place being worn by bikers and available at any Army surplus store. You guys would have coughed up a lung.

Yep.. today, it seems everyone is offended by any little thing.

Really? Would you like to open a street stand in Harlem selling "Stars'n'bars" shirts? Let us know how it works out. If you make it out alive, that is.

Your average WalMart shopper wouldn't have a clue the origin of the design on that t-shirt. Weak comparison. I bet you see these shirts mostly on 13 year old skaters wearing Vans and baggy pants.

107000 results on Google will disagree with you.

Yeah right. This is along the lines of the Imus thing. People didn't know SQUAT until it was put up on a website in an attempt to malign WalMart and attract the knee-jerks.

Why do you care if people malign Walmart? Do you work there?

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why do you care if people malign Walmart? Do you work there?

I don't and I don't, why would you think that? I just don't like the jump on the band wagon knee-jerk crowd who usually don't know or understand what the issue is until prodded to do so.

 

[randym431]

Its all made in China. They thought that was America, so they made them.

1960's state fair, nothing BUT nazi stuff for sale. Everywhere. Remember???

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: randym431
Its all made in China. They thought that was America, so they made them.

1960's state fair, nothing BUT nazi stuff for sale. Everywhere. Remember???

Yeah, I already mentioned that. The kiddies here would have had a heart attack walking around.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You people sure get your panties in a wad over little things. It is lucky most of you guys are young. If you would have been alive in the 60's you would have seen old WWII Nazi stuff all over the place being worn by bikers and available at any Army surplus store. You guys would have coughed up a lung.

There IS a difference. Nazi memorabilia is widely available via collectors websites, gun shows, eBay, etc. and is always sold and traded for what it is, hence no objections. Walmart, on the other hand, has taken a prominent symbol associated with death and destruction and turned it into a "hip shirt" for the youngsters. It trivializes a slaughter of millions of innocent people. As someone who's half-jew, married to a jew, and who's family has suffered greately at hands of the murderers wearing that insignia, I have a problem with Walmart's casual approach to these symbols.

Interesting how everyone decided to ignore your incredibly valid argument...

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You people sure get your panties in a wad over little things. It is lucky most of you guys are young. If you would have been alive in the 60's you would have seen old WWII Nazi stuff all over the place being worn by bikers and available at any Army surplus store. You guys would have coughed up a lung.

There IS a difference. Nazi memorabilia is widely available via collectors websites, gun shows, eBay, etc. and is always sold and traded for what it is, hence no objections. Walmart, on the other hand, has taken a prominent symbol associated with death and destruction and turned it into a "hip shirt" for the youngsters. It trivializes a slaughter of millions of innocent people. As someone who's half-jew, married to a jew, and who's family has suffered greately at hands of the murderers wearing that insignia, I have a problem with Walmart's casual approach to these symbols.

Interesting how everyone decided to ignore your incredibly valid argument...

Can't say that I'm surprised. Thank you for your kind words

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You people sure get your panties in a wad over little things. It is lucky most of you guys are young. If you would have been alive in the 60's you would have seen old WWII Nazi stuff all over the place being worn by bikers and available at any Army surplus store. You guys would have coughed up a lung.

There IS a difference. Nazi memorabilia is widely available via collectors websites, gun shows, eBay, etc. and is always sold and traded for what it is, hence no objections. Walmart, on the other hand, has taken a prominent symbol associated with death and destruction and turned it into a "hip shirt" for the youngsters. It trivializes a slaughter of millions of innocent people. As someone who's half-jew, married to a jew, and who's family has suffered greately at hands of the murderers wearing that insignia, I have a problem with Walmart's casual approach to these symbols.

Interesting how everyone decided to ignore your incredibly valid argument...

I didn't see it, but I also don't agree with it. I don't think WalMart intentionally did anything. I think the buyers thought "cool shirt, the skate punks will love it" and ordered them. No one trivialized anything. It was simply a mistake in my opinion. Very few people would recognize the symbol. Most that would are history buffs like me. Most that would notice it and find if offensive are looking for a reason to be offended. When they saw the shirt did they think "I better bring this to WalMart's attention as they probably don't know what the symbol means" or did they think "those damned evil blah blah blahs....we need to crucify the evil blah blah blahs....". We already know the answer.

 

[Phokus]

Sam Walton = nazi apologist, amirite?

 

[Gilligansdingy]

Why do we still carry a torch from Mt Olympus for the Olympics when the Nazi's started it?

 

[Flyback]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why do you care if people malign Walmart? Do you work there?

I don't and I don't, why would you think that? I just don't like the jump on the band wagon knee-jerk crowd who usually don't know or understand what the issue is until prodded to do so.

You're just mad you bought your save darfur and fight cancer bracelets while they were "underground" and now they are mainstream, aren't you? j/k

 

[GeeFizzleDizzle]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You people sure get your panties in a wad over little things. It is lucky most of you guys are young. If you would have been alive in the 60's you would have seen old WWII Nazi stuff all over the place being worn by bikers and available at any Army surplus store. You guys would have coughed up a lung.

There IS a difference. Nazi memorabilia is widely available via collectors websites, gun shows, eBay, etc. and is always sold and traded for what it is, hence no objections. Walmart, on the other hand, has taken a prominent symbol associated with death and destruction and turned it into a "hip shirt" for the youngsters. It trivializes a slaughter of millions of innocent people. As someone who's half-jew, married to a jew, and who's family has suffered greately at hands of the murderers wearing that insignia, I have a problem with Walmart's casual approach to these symbols.

Interesting how everyone decided to ignore your incredibly valid argument...

I didn't see it, but I also don't agree with it. I don't think WalMart intentionally did anything. I think the buyers thought "cool shirt, the skate punks will love it" and ordered them. No one trivialized anything. It was simply a mistake in my opinion. Very few people would recognize the symbol. Most that would are history buffs like me. Most that would notice it and find if offensive are looking for a reason to be offended. When they saw the shirt did they think "I better bring this to WalMart's attention as they probably don't know what the symbol means" or did they think "those damned evil blah blah blahs....we need to crucify the evil blah blah blahs....". We already know the answer.

The way I look at it, it's really not the point whether or not it was done intentionally.

The whole point is that once it was discovered what the symbol represented, the shirts and anything promoting the shirts should have been removed. They haven't been and that's the main beef with Wal-Mart.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Let's face it, the Nazis had some cool symbols... that's all there is to it.
Not surprising someone would want to repurpose some.

Symbols like the swastika were a peaceful symbol stolen from India's Hindu culture. In fact the word swastika is a German variation on the Indian spelling.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: AnyMal


There IS a difference. Nazi memorabilia is widely available via collectors websites, gun shows, eBay, etc. and is always sold and traded for what it is, hence no objections. Walmart, on the other hand, has taken a prominent symbol associated with death and destruction and turned it into a "hip shirt" for the youngsters. It trivializes a slaughter of millions of innocent people. As someone who's half-jew, married to a jew, and who's family has suffered greately at hands of the murderers wearing that insignia, I have a problem with Walmart's casual approach to these symbols.

First of all, you're taking it out of context.

Secondly, the shirt is probably made in China by people who have no idea what the symbol means, they just pulled the clip-art off their pirated CD.

Thirdly, the people buying the shirt don't know what it means, either.

Buying it doesn't trivialize the death of anybody. You're taking the symbolism a few steps too far. Stop being so sensitive.

 

[Googer]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totenkopf

 

[ThePresence]

Supposedly Walmart pulled this stuff off their shelves.

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[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: AnyMal


There IS a difference. Nazi memorabilia is widely available via collectors websites, gun shows, eBay, etc. and is always sold and traded for what it is, hence no objections. Walmart, on the other hand, has taken a prominent symbol associated with death and destruction and turned it into a "hip shirt" for the youngsters. It trivializes a slaughter of millions of innocent people. As someone who's half-jew, married to a jew, and who's family has suffered greately at hands of the murderers wearing that insignia, I have a problem with Walmart's casual approach to these symbols.

First of all, you're taking it out of context.

Secondly, the shirt is probably made in China by people who have no idea what the symbol means, they just pulled the clip-art off their pirated CD.

Thirdly, the people buying the shirt don't know what it means, either.

Buying it doesn't trivialize the death of anybody. You're taking the symbolism a few steps too far. Stop being so sensitive.

How am I taking "it" out of context and what might that context be? Secondly, it's irrelevant where the shirt was made. What is relevant, is that it was brought to Walmart's attention a long time ago and they failed to follow through. Lastly, your assumption that people are ignorant contradicts the fact that there is a widespread outcry reaching as far as Washington and the fact that thousands of survivors are still alive and they havn't forgotten anything.

As I suggested to another person in this thread, if you wish to test how far you can push people by dangling symbols of oppression and murder in fron of them, open a Confederacy memorabilia store in Harlem and let us know what happens.