It sure did, with woodscrews and all.
http://semiaccurate.com/2009/10/01/nvidia-fakes-fermi-boards-gtc/
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It sure did, with woodscrews and all.
http://semiaccurate.com/2009/10/01/nvidia-fakes-fermi-boards-gtc/
AMD stated that they sold about six million 40nm 5xxx Radeons by around the time Fermi launched. So I would say Fermi's design may have had a lot to do with the delay.
But my comment was really meant as a joke, I wouldn't look too far into it.
http://www.vizworld.com/2010/09/nvidia-product-roadmap-fermi-kepler-maxwell/
Well, according to this Fermi was a '2009' part. So looking at Kepler as '2011' part...
nV has said one being delayed had nothing to do with the other...
I am not going to defend Nvidia now, as they are p****s for many reasons, but as an owner of GTX590 i am very satisfied sofar regardless of the possible revision. I believe they made very good choice, when they decided to go for a balance between the performance and temps/noise and did not went for performance only. I saw somebody saying "who gets the 590x, does not care for noise, he just wants the ultimate performance" ...that is BS really.
I had 2 460s and they were awful to run, hot and noisy as hell, now i have much more "firepower", but its nowhere as noisy and runs even few degrees cooler at load than the upper 460 before. So really no SLI again for me, unless i will have bigtower and watercooling...
And frankly you have no idea how the 590 fits my bill, i decided to sell those 460s for the reasons mentioned above + they did not live up the task at Octane Render, were too slow for my liking and i hated to render with both of them cause of the noise (and that was the reason i bought 2 of them LOL)...
so i was thinking, should i sell one and get 570 instead, that would give me 480 + 336 (but in fact 224 with Octane) CUDA cores, well but the noise/temp problem would stay and 570 is 1,28GB only
then i was thinking get only 580 and ditch both 460? But that would give me almost equal performance as those 2 460, although with less noise...
what about 2x570 then? No, again temp/noise problem and 1,28GB only...
finally 590 came to mind, wait... almost 2x480/570 performance, but no temp/noise issue and 1,53GB RAM...+ only 150 EUROs more than 580...FTW!
So really, despite its shortcomings, its not a bad product. Far better than 6990, which you can use for gaming only and frankly there is not a single game out there worthy to splash so much money on GPU... i know some people me included prefer to play on computer, but if i was serious about gaming, i would buy Xbox for half the price of 590 and had much more fun with console games, like NHL 11, which is nowhere to be seen on PC... oh, i would kill for NHL 12 on PC!
...my 2 cents
I had 2 460s and they were awful to run, hot and noisy as hell, now i have much more "firepower", but its nowhere as noisy and runs even few degrees cooler at load than the upper 460 before. So really no SLI again for me, unless i will have bigtower and watercooling...
And frankly you have no idea how the 590 fits my bill, i decided to sell those 460s for the reasons mentioned above + they did not live up the task at Octane Render, were too slow for my liking and i hated to render with both of them cause of the noise (and that was the reason i bought 2 of them LOL)...
so i was thinking, should i sell one and get 570 instead, that would give me 480 + 336 (but in fact 224 with Octane) CUDA cores, well but the noise/temp problem would stay and 570 is 1,28GB only
then i was thinking get only 580 and ditch both 460? But that would give me almost equal performance as those 2 460, although with less noise...
what about 2x570 then? No, again temp/noise problem and 1,28GB only...
finally 590 came to mind, wait... almost 2x480/570 performance, but no temp/noise issue and 1,53GB RAM...+ only 150 EUROs more than 580...FTW!
So really, despite its shortcomings, its not a bad product. Far better than 6990, which you can use for gaming only and frankly there is not a single game out there worthy to splash so much money on GPU... i know some people me included prefer to play on computer, but if i was serious about gaming, i would buy Xbox for half the price of 590 and had much more fun with console games, like NHL 11, which is nowhere to be seen on PC... oh, i would kill for NHL 12 on PC!
...my 2 cents
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Well its good of you to share your 2 cents, noone can take that away from you.
However, my 2 cents say it must suck to buy a product which is then trottled by a driver 3 weeks later.
Because face it, that card could explode if you were unlucky enough to say touch a voltage meter like the one in MSIs combustor. It only takes a link and a referance to make a complete "noob" (give me a better term for a newbeginner at gpu ocing if you can) try his hand at OCing which in 90% of the cases with programs like MSI combustor, also includes overvolting.
Notice how its in peoples sigs, and in their comment when they post about their OCs, its never the OC of the core etc alone, its always with the added volt bit as they follow eachother pretty closely.
So, yeah, your card works for you, good for you! But man now they are fixing all the wrongs with it, perhaps naming it 595 and selling it for more! Enjoy your "castrated" card.
However, my 2 cents say it must suck to buy a product which is then trottled by a driver 3 weeks later.
Because face it, that card could explode if you were unlucky enough to say touch a voltage meter like the one in MSIs combustor. It only takes a link and a referance to make a complete "noob" (give me a better term for a newbeginner at gpu ocing if you can) try his hand at OCing which in 90% of the cases with programs like MSI combustor, also includes overvolting.
Notice how its in peoples sigs, and in their comment when they post about their OCs, its never the OC of the core etc alone, its always with the added volt bit as they follow eachother pretty closely.
So, yeah, your card works for you, good for you! But man now they are fixing all the wrongs with it, perhaps naming it 595 and selling it for more! Enjoy your "castrated" card.
Unless it burns on me on stock volts, i will enjoy it, thanks.
And BTW its performance is about on par with 2x570s and its cost is about the same over here as 2 570s as well... i fail to see why you call it castrated. Just because it has 2 580 cores does not mean it has to run/be overclockable the same as 580. I suppose they could add more VRMs and another 6/8 pin connector and god knows what more, so it would be able to reach those 580s parameters, but then:
-it would probably be more expensive, no way they would sell GPU on par with 2 580s 300 EUROs cheaper than 2 actual 580s
-it could have longer PCB, which would not fit my case (FD Define R2, standard midsize case)
-it would draw more power, my PSU might not be enough for it, now it seems, it is
-it could be noisier than it is and really, i would hate it
Really this might be a bit premature, as the card can still blow, but until it does, i have no reason to bitch
now artificially crippling the viewport performance in 3dsmax/maya on GeForces to force people buy Quadros, this is genuine reason why Nvidia sucks,
not inability to OC the card 300 MHz higher or some wooden replica on some techie conference
And BTW its performance is about on par with 2x570s and its cost is about the same over here as 2 570s as well... i fail to see why you call it castrated. Just because it has 2 580 cores does not mean it has to run/be overclockable the same as 580. I suppose they could add more VRMs and another 6/8 pin connector and god knows what more, so it would be able to reach those 580s parameters, but then:
-it would probably be more expensive, no way they would sell GPU on par with 2 580s 300 EUROs cheaper than 2 actual 580s
-it could have longer PCB, which would not fit my case (FD Define R2, standard midsize case)
-it would draw more power, my PSU might not be enough for it, now it seems, it is
-it could be noisier than it is and really, i would hate it
Really this might be a bit premature, as the card can still blow, but until it does, i have no reason to bitch
now artificially crippling the viewport performance in 3dsmax/maya on GeForces to force people buy Quadros, this is genuine reason why Nvidia sucks,
not inability to OC the card 300 MHz higher or some wooden replica on some techie conference
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Well they pretty much have a monopoly in the workstation market so unless the competition does something about it, you will have to put up with such antics.
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Asus showcases GTX595 ARES
Well this certainty sounds interesting and probably the card that most people expected when they first heard about a dual GPU card from nVIDIA. Most likely to be $1000 dollars a piece though with 3x8pin connector and a triple slot cooler.
Well this certainty sounds interesting and probably the card that most people expected when they first heard about a dual GPU card from nVIDIA. Most likely to be $1000 dollars a piece though with 3x8pin connector and a triple slot cooler.
Apparently there is no new revision by Nvidia in the making:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2071334/geforce-gtx-590-board-designs-nvidia
OFC there still may be the non-reference cards as the Ares mentioned in the post above
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2071334/geforce-gtx-590-board-designs-nvidia
OFC there still may be the non-reference cards as the Ares mentioned in the post above
I don't believe anything Nvidia PR has to say, as they have given denials and lied before.
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What I would like to see is the ability to offer a modest over-volt. It bothers me to some degree that one can with most sku's but not with this GTX 590 product sku. Understand, but there is some hypocrisy considering over-clocking is important to AIB's and IHV's and used as selling points and one has to sacrifice on their flag-ship.
Speculation hat on:
Sadly, I feel that there was some confusion with drivers and an aggressive bios from Asus that may of caused this. nVidia has taken all of the heat, rightly so, and may of over-reacted on the over-volting to make sure these products in the future wouldn't have any future incidents.
Also, this over-all GTX 590 incident, the extremest comes out to play offering fear mongering based on rumor mongering.
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Sadly many of the cards that burned up were not just Asus models. And was done by experienced over clockers not some nerd in a basement.
The 6990 is the superior card here and is able to be pushed further with the ASUM switched turned on. Nvidia let their EGO get in the way and was just caught with their pants down. They shouldn't have attempted a duel GPU card until 28nm. Especially with duel GTX 580s on a single card.
Yes, exactly like that. I wouldn't put trust in any PR. But when it comes to vilifying a specific company, I guess it's a choice between a douchebag and a turd sandwich.
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Don't have any problem with the re-naming based on that chip is a good one and still can bring in nice revenue for the company and value to the consumer. The renaming makes a complete, easy to understand naming convention, top-to-bottom and fits perfectly between the 6670 and 6790 sku's from a performance stand-point.
Renaming isn't ideal but there is good there and some simply allow idealism to be the enemy of good. It's not to mislead, which is abominable.
Renaming isn't ideal but there is good there and some simply allow idealism to be the enemy of good. It's not to mislead, which is abominable.
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Oh the irony...I see a lot of "foot-in-mouth" posts in this thread now.
Priceless...
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Yeah, it was offered in this thread a few pages back:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=31720631&postcount=69
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=31720631&postcount=69
Based on what? A denial from Nvidia PR? Like they haven't done it before (i.e., denial and it turns out to be true)?
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You know its ravenous fanboys that made this a 'relevant' story. How uncommon do you think it is to use props at car shows etc ?
You do know this is not actually bulldozer on this slide ?
Is AMD trying to decive 'fans' ?
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You know its ravenous fanboys that made this a 'relevant' story. How uncommon do you think it is to use props at car shows etc ?
You do know this is not actually bulldozer on this slide ?
Is AMD trying to decive 'fans' ?
you couldn't find a bad thing about AMD graphics but still came up with this? Sad
^ It's become a standard distraction technique to derail a thread and obscure the original topic.
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