[vr-zone] GTX 590 revision in June

[LtMikePowelll]

http://vr-zone.com/articles/revised-geforce-gtx-590-cards-in-june/12222.html

Remember the horror of GeForce GTX 590 going up in smoke while benching? Well, apparently NVIDIA has found a way to solve this issue completely without doing a quick fix through the drivers. The solution : a much needed hardware fix where the new inductors are added to the card. However, the new inductors are larger in size therefore a change to the baseplate is needed.

EDIT: Mods, please closed this thread, due to thread derailing, trolling and flaming.


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[hdfxst]

Everyone that bought a 590 should have the option to upgrade,if not that would be a real kick in the nuts.But you'll probably see people installing older drivers and frying the card then sending it in for the new one

 

[SlowSpyder]

A lot of people here insisted that there was not a problem with the GTX590. I think this is Nvidia saying that there is a problem.

Anyway, it will be nice for people who drop a lot of money on one of these to have the piece of mind and likely the option to add a bit of voltage, should they choose to do so.

 

[wahdangun]

hahaha first they denying the problem, and now this ?? Some how I'm not really suprised with this move (hint:bumpgate)

 

[nvidiaintelftw]

wait did they do anything to the power phase design??

 

[PingviN]

Nvidia's way of saying: "Yes, we messed up."?

Still a good thing they fix it, can't have their engineering marvel fry, can they?

 

[Madcatatlas]

This is like a bump, without the gate eh?


Imagine buying a product that two weeks later gets a permanent hotfix/throttle that lowers performance on said product... haha

Maybe this new revision will be like the 460, a better Fermi.

 

[notty22]

This is great news, now the worlds fastest graphic card can be pushed even faster. AMD will have to come out with a new switch/yellow tape /dual bios gimmick to compete.

 

[Dark Shroud]

A revised version instead of just calling this one a GTX 595. Sometimes I wonder what the people in charge of that company are thinking with the products they put out.

 

[Arkadrel]

The 6990 is a faster card than the 590.... by a tiny amount, but still.

This way Nvidia can claim the fastest card title (with the new revison of the 590 card).

However... its kinda late isnt it? its not launched yet, and in 3-4 months time, there might be a 7990 card.

Also if there is a hardware "fix" to keep them from blowing up, or haveing to be downclocked, wont this mean the issue was hardware related all the time? not a software one?

The revised GeForce GTX 590 cards denoted with a new -502 marking on the PCB are expected to hit the market in June.

And then 2-3 months lateron, the 7xxx series is out.
Question is how many would buy a 590, with the 28nm series from both companies right around the corner?

 

[Grooveriding]

Haha priceless. Where are all the fanboys who screamed the card was fine ?

Unfortunate buyers who picked up these defective cards should RMA once the revision is out and demand an updated replacement.

If this much needed fix actually allows better stock clocks on the card, NV may actually catch up to or even surpass the 6990 and have the performance crown for the first time since September/09.

 

[Zap]

Haha priceless. Where are all the fanboys who screamed the card was fine ?

I'm not a fanboy and I don't scream, but I thought that the original card was fine. When used in the way that it was designed, it worked. People pushed it out of the design envelope and it failed. I think it was more a case of enthusiast overclockers expecting too much because they have become spoiled with all the easy overclocks common to hardware these days.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Haha priceless. Where are all the fanboys who screamed the card was fine ?

Unfortunate buyers who picked up these defective cards should RMA once the revision is out and demand an updated replacement.

If this much needed fix actually allows better stock clocks on the card, NV may actually catch up to or even surpass the 6990 and have the performance crown for the first time since September/09.

You shouldn't call other peopel for fanboy.
Even if you own 2x480's....no one here has any doubts about your "loyality".

It's a classic example of "pot, kettle, black".

 

[Spikesoldier]

too bad for those who picked up an early 590.

i too am surprised they didnt name this one the 595.

anyway, i guess those who bought the 590 and had it burn up could expect a low-end single gpu amd replacement card five years from now.

 

[notty22]

Giving the card a new # because they are giving it more o/c is hilarious. Its a unofficial feature. I would say its in the same ballpark of features as gpu's that come with shaders that aren't lasered off .
If that feature (which it has it seems) disappears from the 6950, should they be re-named 6940's ?

 

[Madcatatlas]

Claiming the, now proven, turd of a card, the 590 is the fastest card...hehe, whatever rocks your boat green bird :biggrin:


1:
Nvidia 590 exploding, one of many such turds

2:
Nvidia changes mind about exploding 590s...great card!

3:
Driver blows up Nvidia Gtx590, better than AMD?..haha

4:
590s BLOW up!, nvidia makes new bios/drivers

5:
you bought a 590 because you thought you could OC it?...i guess not

6:
Youtube link to videos of exploding 590s. enjoy. best exploder 2011


You must think people stupid to not see trough such obvious marketting gimmicks. Guess what, this is not 20 years ago.

 

[Spikesoldier]

Giving the card a new # because they are giving it more o/c is hilarious. Its a unofficial feature. I would say its in the same ballpark of features as gpu's that come with shaders that aren't lasered off .
If that feature (which it has it seems) disappears from the 6950, should they be re-named 6940's ?

i think NV would like to dodge the bad rap the 590s have built, given if a potential customer googles the 590 putting forward an ounce of research. 595 would not only be a better PR move, but would also sadly be in character.

do i think that a 6950 lasered should be 6940? no, because the people who unlock their 6950's are probably less than 5% (im being generous) of overall sales. i think that 5% is too insignificant of a market to warrant the change.

do i think that the 590 should be changed to 595 after new revision? sure because it will differentiate a product that has failed in the eyes of enthusiasts and the public. 595 would be a good re-launch for NV, and wont be pushing any ethical boundaries that havent already been shattered.

 

[Madcatatlas]

I agree, i mean whats unethical about launching the same product, 590, just this time, it doesnt blow up, it doesnt need a driver/bios hotfix that permanently lowers performance or throttles at higher load, and just calling it something else. Nothing wrong with that. Could even charge a price premium for it!

 

[Grooveriding]

At this point it's probably too late. Nv lost huge mindshare with the failed 590 launch.

The card got raked over the coals for being defective and needing a driver patch along with being what should of been a flagship card for enthusiasts that you couldn't safely overclock or touch voltage on.

The card came out almost two months ago and is still near non-existent at any retailer. You have to camp the evga site to find one. Whether this is due to supply issues, the card being near non-profitable (MSI dropped out as a NA vendor because there was no profit on the card) or because they quickly halted shipments when the card was found to be faulty and started preparing these revisions, who knows.

I'm with the previous poster. A smart move would of been a rename, the 590 moniker is synonymous with being a pile of crap. A rename would of given somewhat of a fresh start for them with a fixed version of the card.

They may actually be able to answer this challenge now though, http://blogs.amd.com/play/2011/03/25/2056/, if the card can be safely clocked up high enough and sold in that state. Will be interesting to see.

 

[Firestorm007]

This is great news, now the worlds fastest graphic card can be pushed even faster. AMD will have to come out with a new switch/yellow tape /dual bios gimmick to compete.

LOL! You sir are funny! Isn't in funny though that even taking off that gimmicky tape and hitting that switch that the 6990 doesn't go BOOM! It's ok, I know it upsets you that AMD has the faster card. I feel for ya. :whiste:

 

[Firestorm007]

Haha priceless. Where are all the fanboys who screamed the card was fine ?

Unfortunate buyers who picked up these defective cards should RMA once the revision is out and demand an updated replacement.

If this much needed fix actually allows better stock clocks on the card, NV may actually catch up to or even surpass the 6990 and have the performance crown for the first time since September/09.

Agreed! Sorry but to come out and say there was never a problem to begin with because A) you have a vested interest or B) you're a blind fanboy is disturbing. If you're going to shell out that much $ for a graphics card, it better work right the first time.

 

[OCGuy]

Awesome, they will probably once again own the fastest card and single GPU.

Personally I am set until the 28nm launches in Q4.

 

[Firestorm007]

LOL! Spin for the win from some members here. I guess if it doesn't work the first time, try, try again. Oh wait., What happened to those people who spent 700+ the first time around. Yay for quality control. Try harder next time. Nvidia made a laughable blunder with the 590.

 

[hdfxst]

LOL! Spin for the win from some members here. I guess if it doesn't work the first time, try, try again. Oh wait., What happened to those people who spent 700+ the first time around. Yay for quality control. Try harder next time. Nvidia made a laughable blunder with the 590.

They'll just install an older driver crank the volts up blow the card and rma it for the new one,unless the voltage is locked down on the revised card and it doesn't overclock any better

 

[Idontcare]

Agreed! Sorry but to come out and say there was never a problem to begin with because A) you have a vested interest or B) you're a blind fanboy is disturbing. If you're going to shell out that much $ for a graphics card, it better work right the first time.

I don't get it? What didn't "work right the first time" for the GTX590?

I don't see this situation as being any different than CPU steppings, or mobo revisions. Unless the stepping change is to fix something uber-bad (like the B3 stepping for Phenom that fixed the TLB bug), stepping changes bring performance improvements on terms of overclockability all the time for all camps.

Q6600 B3 -> G0?

PhII C2 -> E0?

OC'ing is always YMMV, and new steppings generally bring improved overclocking. This is true of motherboards with new revisions as well.