Yeah, Kaine looks to have almost no experience. Some say Obama personaly favors him, but it would really highlight the inexperience thing.Originally posted by: ProfJohn
From a Republican POV Kaine of VA would be the best pick while Byah would be the worst.
If Obama's wins then Biden would most likely be the best choice due to his experience on foreign affairs.
Actually, McCain has to burn through all his private funds now. He won't be able to use them after the GOP convention. His campaign actually has alot of cash on hand. McCain and the RNC have about as much cash on hand together as Obama and the DNC.Originally posted by: Genx87
The glooves come off after the conventions. McCain has been laying low because quite frankly he lacks the funds to do an all out campaign since June. Sept\Oct he will burn money like there is no tomorrow.
Yeah, I've been watching this. During the primary Obama's huge lead in fundraising was hyped. It's pretty much dropped out of sight and the mater is rarely mentioned. That alone has made me suspicious.Originally posted by: Queasy
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McCain and the RNC have about as much cash on hand together as Obama and the DNC.
I just think the news story has gotten a bit old. Every report I've seen has Obama continuing to crush McCain in fundraising, by 200-300%.Originally posted by: Fern
Yeah, I've been watching this. During the primary Obama's huge lead in fundraising was hyped. It's pretty much dropped out of sight and the mater is rarely mentioned. That alone has made me suspicious.Originally posted by: Queasy
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McCain and the RNC have about as much cash on hand together as Obama and the DNC.
From what I can tell, while individually Obama is doing well, McCain and RNC have more cash on hand than Obama + the DNC.
That's a huge turnaround for the RNC. Early on there much talk about how poor their fundraising was - people were fired etc. Now, very little is said.
I suppose while there may be tepid support for McCain, Obama may driving Repubs to contribute to the RNC. Perhaps there is some strategic purpose as well? Given the FEC limits McCain must deal with perhaps many just give to the RNC?
Fern
From he middle of last year:Originally posted by: eskimospy
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In fact as far as I know RNC fundraising has been consistently good. What are you referring to?
LinkThe Republican National Committee, hit by a grass-roots donors' rebellion over President Bush's immigration policy, has fired all 65 of its telephone solicitors, Ralph Z. Hallow will report Friday in The Washington Times.
Faced with an estimated 40 percent fall-off in small-donor contributions and aging phone-bank equipment that the RNC said would cost too much to update, Anne Hathaway, the committee's chief of staff, summoned the solicitations staff last week and told them they were out of work, effective immediately, the fired staffers told The Times.
Only problem is, that door swings both ways. Because of the DNC money troubles, Obama is going to have to help the DNC out. They've started selling seats at Invesco for $1,000 a pop and luxury suites for unions and PACs for Obama's acceptance speech. This is the same 'soft money' that Obama previously criticized.Originally posted by: eskimospy
I just think the news story has gotten a bit old. Every report I've seen has Obama continuing to crush McCain in fundraising, by 200-300%.Originally posted by: Fern
Yeah, I've been watching this. During the primary Obama's huge lead in fundraising was hyped. It's pretty much dropped out of sight and the mater is rarely mentioned. That alone has made me suspicious.Originally posted by: Queasy
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McCain and the RNC have about as much cash on hand together as Obama and the DNC.
From what I can tell, while individually Obama is doing well, McCain and RNC have more cash on hand than Obama + the DNC.
That's a huge turnaround for the RNC. Early on there much talk about how poor their fundraising was - people were fired etc. Now, very little is said.
I suppose while there may be tepid support for McCain, Obama may driving Repubs to contribute to the RNC. Perhaps there is some strategic purpose as well? Given the FEC limits McCain must deal with perhaps many just give to the RNC?
Fern
The RNC has had far more cash on hand than the DNC from the beginning, this is nothing new. In fact as far as I know RNC fundraising has been consistently good. What are you referring to? The RNC has about $60 million more on hand then the DNC but that will have to be spread around quite a bit, especially considering the crushing advantage of about $50 million that the DCCC has over the NRCC, and the $20 million or so advantage the DSCC has over the NRSC. In order to avert an even larger catastrophe in Congress, the RNC is going to have to help them a lot.
So in short the RNC will be able to help McCain close the fundraising gap a bit, but it has a lot of other obligations to meet. I imagine by the end Obama will have about twice the campaign cash at his disposal that McCain will.
Well, you wouldn't expect him to give it away would you? :laugh:As Delaware Sen. Joe Biden left his home a few minutes ago, golf clubs in tow, he was asked where he was going to be on Saturday.
Biden replied, "Here" and pointed down to his driveway.
As he pulled out of the driveway in the driver's seat of his car he then said to the press gathered near his gate, "You guys have better things to do. I'm not the guy."
Why is money donated to Obama not money donated to the DNC? The two aren't mutually exclusive. Also, the door doesn't really swing both ways much at all. The outlays that Obama might give to the DNC would be tiny, considering the DNC doesn't really need to help the DCCC and the DSCC much at all. (as the DSCC has about 2x the money on hand as its counterpart and the DCCC is approaching about 10x the amount of cash as the NRCC)Originally posted by: Queasy
Only problem is, that door swings both ways. Because of the DNC money troubles, Obama is going to have to help the DNC out. They've started selling seats at Invesco for $1,000 a pop and luxury suites for unions and PACs for Obama's acceptance speech. This is the same 'soft money' that Obama previously criticized.Originally posted by: eskimospy
I just think the news story has gotten a bit old. Every report I've seen has Obama continuing to crush McCain in fundraising, by 200-300%.Originally posted by: Fern
Yeah, I've been watching this. During the primary Obama's huge lead in fundraising was hyped. It's pretty much dropped out of sight and the mater is rarely mentioned. That alone has made me suspicious.Originally posted by: Queasy
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McCain and the RNC have about as much cash on hand together as Obama and the DNC.
From what I can tell, while individually Obama is doing well, McCain and RNC have more cash on hand than Obama + the DNC.
That's a huge turnaround for the RNC. Early on there much talk about how poor their fundraising was - people were fired etc. Now, very little is said.
I suppose while there may be tepid support for McCain, Obama may driving Repubs to contribute to the RNC. Perhaps there is some strategic purpose as well? Given the FEC limits McCain must deal with perhaps many just give to the RNC?
Fern
The RNC has had far more cash on hand than the DNC from the beginning, this is nothing new. In fact as far as I know RNC fundraising has been consistently good. What are you referring to? The RNC has about $60 million more on hand then the DNC but that will have to be spread around quite a bit, especially considering the crushing advantage of about $50 million that the DCCC has over the NRCC, and the $20 million or so advantage the DSCC has over the NRSC. In order to avert an even larger catastrophe in Congress, the RNC is going to have to help them a lot.
So in short the RNC will be able to help McCain close the fundraising gap a bit, but it has a lot of other obligations to meet. I imagine by the end Obama will have about twice the campaign cash at his disposal that McCain will.
And money donated to Obama is money that isn't donated to the DNC to help out their candidates.
Oh, in the middle of the immigration debate more than a year ago about 6 months after a crushing electoral defeat. That's not surprising, but during the actual serious presidential campaign season they've been just fine from the beginning.Originally posted by: Fern
From he middle of last year:Originally posted by: eskimospy
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In fact as far as I know RNC fundraising has been consistently good. What are you referring to?
LinkThe Republican National Committee, hit by a grass-roots donors' rebellion over President Bush's immigration policy, has fired all 65 of its telephone solicitors, Ralph Z. Hallow will report Friday in The Washington Times.
Faced with an estimated 40 percent fall-off in small-donor contributions and aging phone-bank equipment that the RNC said would cost too much to update, Anne Hathaway, the committee's chief of staff, summoned the solicitations staff last week and told them they were out of work, effective immediately, the fired staffers told The Times.
Fern
If y'all are going to start putting down range .22 shots about snippets to use against Obama I'll break out the .50 caliber snippets about McCain, let's not do that.
Except McCain completely mishandled the Georgian crisis, both in policy and by subjugating the authority of the sitting President of the US.Originally posted by: loki8481
when polls are saying that McCain is better suited to handle the crisis in Russia/Georgia by 2:1 margins and 80% think that McCain has the right amount of experience compared to 48% for Obama, I'd be genuinely surprised if Obama picked Kaine.
it's not about aptitude, it's the way you're viewedOriginally posted by: Vic
Except McCain completely mishandled the Georgian crisis, both in policy and by subjugating the authority of the sitting President of the US.Originally posted by: loki8481
when polls are saying that McCain is better suited to handle the crisis in Russia/Georgia by 2:1 margins and 80% think that McCain has the right amount of experience compared to 48% for Obama, I'd be genuinely surprised if Obama picked Kaine.
And note that I use the past tense, because the situation there is already over.
I must assume you are fairly young.Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Most Americans don't know Biden. He doesn't come in a nice pre-existing package to be able to easily shore up Obama's weak areas. However, someone like Wesley Clark would not require much effort.