Voltron vs Transformers vs Robotech vs Power Rangers vs Enterprise vs Super Star Destroyer

[Zee]

inspector gadget can kick all their asses.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: K1052
Enterprise.

Take out the SSD shields (hell, even the wussy Alliance manged that) then transporters + quantum torpedos for teh win.

I'd like to point out that the enterprise has no starfighters with which to get inside the shields of the SSD, so...they have to cruise inside the SSD's shields and they're dead from counter fire before you get to step 1. Remember, the starfighters did it b/c they were fast and tiny targets. Shuttlecraft could not do the same job.

That depends on if the SSD's shields are keeping out projectiles in that particular scene.

If so, use Runabouts to get in close and take out the sheild generators.

If not, just torpedo the shield generators and start transporting quantum torpedos into she SSD's magazines and engine spaces.

Since the enterprise never had runabouts, and they'd STILL probably get blown away by the SSD's close in AA, that seems unlikely. And clearly, there is some sort of projectile protection, or the Rebels would have just used their own proton torpedos.

As I said, there are inconsistencies in the shown capabilities of Imperial shielding.

The Sovereign class (Enterprise E) shuttlebay was designed to accomodate Runabouts. Use of Federation fighters was also shown in the Dominion War. There is no reason the Enterprise could not carry them.

 

[Fritzo]

Godzilla!

 

[So]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: K1052
Enterprise.

Take out the SSD shields (hell, even the wussy Alliance manged that) then transporters + quantum torpedos for teh win.

I'd like to point out that the enterprise has no starfighters with which to get inside the shields of the SSD, so...they have to cruise inside the SSD's shields and they're dead from counter fire before you get to step 1. Remember, the starfighters did it b/c they were fast and tiny targets. Shuttlecraft could not do the same job.

That depends on if the SSD's shields are keeping out projectiles in that particular scene.

If so, use Runabouts to get in close and take out the sheild generators.

If not, just torpedo the shield generators and start transporting quantum torpedos into she SSD's magazines and engine spaces.

Since the enterprise never had runabouts, and they'd STILL probably get blown away by the SSD's close in AA, that seems unlikely. And clearly, there is some sort of projectile protection, or the Rebels would have just used their own proton torpedos.

As I said, there are inconsistencies in the shown capabilities of Imperial shielding.

The Sovereign class (Enterprise E) shuttlebay was designed to accomodate Runabouts. Use of Federation fighters was also shown in the Dominion War. There is no reason the Enterprise could not carry them.

Okay. I still want to see evidence that the enterprise could destroy a ship 20x it's length and probably 1000x it's mass before said ship could get one volley off?

There is nothing in the star trek universe of comparable size that they have had a reasonable shot at blowing away.

 

[So]

(and you assume that the ship is carrying vehicles which it has never been shown to in any canon footage)

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: K1052
Enterprise.

Take out the SSD shields (hell, even the wussy Alliance manged that) then transporters + quantum torpedos for teh win.

I'd like to point out that the enterprise has no starfighters with which to get inside the shields of the SSD, so...they have to cruise inside the SSD's shields and they're dead from counter fire before you get to step 1. Remember, the starfighters did it b/c they were fast and tiny targets. Shuttlecraft could not do the same job.

That depends on if the SSD's shields are keeping out projectiles in that particular scene.

If so, use Runabouts to get in close and take out the sheild generators.

If not, just torpedo the shield generators and start transporting quantum torpedos into she SSD's magazines and engine spaces.

Since the enterprise never had runabouts, and they'd STILL probably get blown away by the SSD's close in AA, that seems unlikely. And clearly, there is some sort of projectile protection, or the Rebels would have just used their own proton torpedos.

As I said, there are inconsistencies in the shown capabilities of Imperial shielding.

The Sovereign class (Enterprise E) shuttlebay was designed to accomodate Runabouts. Use of Federation fighters was also shown in the Dominion War. There is no reason the Enterprise could not carry them.

Okay. I still want to see evidence that the enterprise could destroy a ship 20x it's length and probably 1000x it's mass before said ship could get one volley off?

There is nothing in the star trek universe of comparable size that they have had a reasonable shot at blowing away.

That is why they would use transporters to send torpedos to sensitive areas instead of trying to blow trough the thick hull and exterior compartments of such a massive ship.

As far as the Star Trek universe goes there are many things that would be able to destroy a SSD: Borg, Species 8472, Genesis Device, etc...

 

[PunDogg]

Originally posted by: dighn
enterprise b/c it's got leet shields & weapons & picard > *

Correct My Friend

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: daveymark
what the hell, no gobots?

Yeah.. and we also forgot to include the Mighty Orbots in this mix!!

Of course they are only in the same league as Voltron

 

[So]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: K1052
Enterprise.

Take out the SSD shields (hell, even the wussy Alliance manged that) then transporters + quantum torpedos for teh win.

I'd like to point out that the enterprise has no starfighters with which to get inside the shields of the SSD, so...they have to cruise inside the SSD's shields and they're dead from counter fire before you get to step 1. Remember, the starfighters did it b/c they were fast and tiny targets. Shuttlecraft could not do the same job.

That depends on if the SSD's shields are keeping out projectiles in that particular scene.

If so, use Runabouts to get in close and take out the sheild generators.

If not, just torpedo the shield generators and start transporting quantum torpedos into she SSD's magazines and engine spaces.

Since the enterprise never had runabouts, and they'd STILL probably get blown away by the SSD's close in AA, that seems unlikely. And clearly, there is some sort of projectile protection, or the Rebels would have just used their own proton torpedos.

As I said, there are inconsistencies in the shown capabilities of Imperial shielding.

The Sovereign class (Enterprise E) shuttlebay was designed to accomodate Runabouts. Use of Federation fighters was also shown in the Dominion War. There is no reason the Enterprise could not carry them.

Okay. I still want to see evidence that the enterprise could destroy a ship 20x it's length and probably 1000x it's mass before said ship could get one volley off?

There is nothing in the star trek universe of comparable size that they have had a reasonable shot at blowing away.

That is why they would use transporters to send torpedos to sensitive areas instead of trying to blow trough the thick hull and exterior compartments of such a massive ship.

As far as the Star Trek universe goes there are many things that would be able to destroy a SSD: Borg, Species 8472, Genesis Device, etc...

If they can't easily blow away the shields (which they couldn't -- certainly not before the SSD could fire ONCE), there is no way that they could beam stuff in.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: So
(and you assume that the ship is carrying vehicles which it has never been shown to in any canon footage)

Picard used a Runabout to return to the Enterprise D in this so presumably even the D could at least accept them.

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: K1052
That is why they would use transporters to send torpedos to sensitive areas instead of trying to blow trough the thick hull and exterior compartments of such a massive ship.

As far as the Star Trek universe goes there are many things that would be able to destroy a SSD: Borg, Species 8472, Genesis Device, etc...

Uhhhh yeah... someone else beat me too it but transporters can't go through shields.

 

[So]

Look, we've all been assuming that each ship goes into this with their standard loadlout of equipment, not a laundry list of every ideal part that might be attached. What if the imperials attached the salvaged death star II superlaser to the bottom of the SSD? Hmm?

Assume: Enterprise (D) had it's standard compliment of shuttles, standard shields.
Assume: SSD has standard crew, fighters (Tie Advanced), and shields.

 

[ethebubbeth]

Robotech/Super Dimensional Fortress Macross. The SDF-1's main guns for the win. Anything with aircraft carriers for arms gets bonus points too. Besides, transformable F-14's, what else could an army need

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: dighn
enterprise b/c it's got leet shields & weapons & picard > *

And the warp drive. If it gets owned, it can warp out, get repaired, and come back to finish the job. And worse case, it can go back in time and take out it's opponent before it's ready to fight back.

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: ethebubbeth
Robotech/Super Dimensional Fortress Macross. The SDF-1's main guns for the win. Anything with aircraft carriers for arms gets bonus points too. Besides, transformable F-14's, what else could an army need

As stated previously the main guns would do massive damage to the SSD. But it could not kill the SSD in 1 shot! It would take at least 2 maybe 3. If the SDF-1 can't recharge fast enough for shots 2 and 3 its toast.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: dighn
enterprise b/c it's got leet shields & weapons & picard > *

And the warp drive. If it gets owned, it can warp out, get repaired, and come back to finish the job. And worse case, it can go back in time and take out it's opponent before it's ready to fight back.

Sure. Because the SSD has no hyperdrive.

(don't say oh, it's faster, because the SSD could follow it and blast enterprise while she was docked for repairs)

 

[alexeikgb]

Originally posted by: AkumaX

Originally posted by: alexeikgb
My vote if for Transformers.... Unicron + All the Megabots + All Decepticons >*

haha sh!t, if you're bringing in all aspects of each "sci-fi universe" into play, that'd be one crazy battle royale...

also, if you were to, would you bring in both good and evil sides? i mean, unicron's a pretty crazy baby...

but if you were, you'd have a death star also...

but if you were to use Robotech, and have the SDF1, SDF2, SDF3, and that one ship that's 900 miles long, i'd imagine that'd be a formidable foe.

Star Trek would be crazy. get enterprise, voyager, all the stealth klingon ships, and the BORG. hmm.. assimilate everything...

I did not see anywhere that the Transformers were delegated to a certain group (Autobot/decpeticon) thus.. all are allowed... Unicron was a strech tho.. but it would make it more fun...

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: dighn
enterprise b/c it's got leet shields & weapons & picard > *

And the warp drive. If it gets owned, it can warp out, get repaired, and come back to finish the job. And worse case, it can go back in time and take out it's opponent before it's ready to fight back.

Sure. Because the SSD has no hyperdrive.

(don't say oh, it's faster, because the SSD could follow it and blast enterprise while she was docked for repairs)

They can't track ships in SW through FTL flight without aid of a tracking device. Star Trek ships can.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: dighn
enterprise b/c it's got leet shields & weapons & picard > *

And the warp drive. If it gets owned, it can warp out, get repaired, and come back to finish the job. And worse case, it can go back in time and take out it's opponent before it's ready to fight back.

Sure. Because the SSD has no hyperdrive.

(don't say oh, it's faster, because the SSD could follow it and blast enterprise while she was docked for repairs)

They can't track ships in SW through FTL flight without aid of a tracking device. Star Trek ships can.

no, but interdictor crusier. No running away.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Skeletor would own them all!

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: So
Look, we've all been assuming that each ship goes into this with their standard loadlout of equipment, not a laundry list of every ideal part that might be attached. What if the imperials attached the salvaged death star II superlaser to the bottom of the SSD? Hmm?

Assume: Enterprise (D) had it's standard compliment of shuttles, standard shields.
Assume: SSD has standard crew, fighters (Tie Advanced), and shields.

Enterprise out manuvers SSD (nobody can claim it is agile), keeping the majority of it's guns from coming to bear on it.

Get close in under the keel and go for the engines.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: dighn
enterprise b/c it's got leet shields & weapons & picard > *

And the warp drive. If it gets owned, it can warp out, get repaired, and come back to finish the job. And worse case, it can go back in time and take out it's opponent before it's ready to fight back.

Sure. Because the SSD has no hyperdrive.

(don't say oh, it's faster, because the SSD could follow it and blast enterprise while she was docked for repairs)

They can't track ships in SW through FTL flight without aid of a tracking device. Star Trek ships can.

no, but interdictor crusier. No running away.

If you get interdictor crusuers, then we get cloaking devices.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So
Look, we've all been assuming that each ship goes into this with their standard loadlout of equipment, not a laundry list of every ideal part that might be attached. What if the imperials attached the salvaged death star II superlaser to the bottom of the SSD? Hmm?

Assume: Enterprise (D) had it's standard compliment of shuttles, standard shields.
Assume: SSD has standard crew, fighters (Tie Advanced), and shields.

Enterprise out manuvers SSD (nobody can claim it is agile), keeping the majority of it's guns from coming to bear on it.

Get close in under the keel and go for the engines.

You assume that there are no guns on the keel protecting the engines? I seriously doubt that.

The SSD is bristling with guns.

Also, if the Enterprise can get repaired, so can the SSD.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: dighn
enterprise b/c it's got leet shields & weapons & picard > *

And the warp drive. If it gets owned, it can warp out, get repaired, and come back to finish the job. And worse case, it can go back in time and take out it's opponent before it's ready to fight back.

Sure. Because the SSD has no hyperdrive.

(don't say oh, it's faster, because the SSD could follow it and blast enterprise while she was docked for repairs)

They can't track ships in SW through FTL flight without aid of a tracking device. Star Trek ships can.

no, but interdictor crusier. No running away.

If you get interdictor crusuers, then we get cloaking devices.

fine. SSD has tracking beams up the wazoo. Lock on, hold in place, BAM!

 

[So]

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Megatomic

Originally posted by: dighn
enterprise b/c it's got leet shields & weapons & picard > *

And the warp drive. If it gets owned, it can warp out, get repaired, and come back to finish the job. And worse case, it can go back in time and take out it's opponent before it's ready to fight back.

Sure. Because the SSD has no hyperdrive.

(don't say oh, it's faster, because the SSD could follow it and blast enterprise while she was docked for repairs)

They can't track ships in SW through FTL flight without aid of a tracking device. Star Trek ships can.

no, but interdictor crusier. No running away.

If you get interdictor crusuers, then we get cloaking devices.

fine. SSD has tracking beams up the wazoo. Lock on, hold in place, BAM!

Oooh. This is true. The enterprise needs to get in close, even to use transporters. So, even in the unlikely case that the SSD's shields are down (remember, unlike star trek, I believe the SSD has sectional shields) -- the enterprise needs to move in to beam explosives inside, and the SSD's tractors will hold it in place for firing.