Virginia Ex-GOP Sen. John Warner endorses Democrat

[Moonbeam]

So, you jumped on me because of others? Isn't there something in scripture about that? What a holy man, it must be tough being such a hypocrite all the time. 🙄

You jump on ,me all the time, make absurd false claims and never admit to being wrong in your ridiculous assumptions. Your claims about me being a holy man hypocrite are just more of your stupid assumptions. There is nothing about your intelligence that would indicate your prior post was sarcasm. Nothing at all.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

You jump on ,me all the time, make absurd false claims and never admit to being wrong in your ridiculous assumptions. Your claims about me being a holy man hypocrite are just more of your stupid assumptions. There is nothing about your intelligence that would indicate your prior post was sarcasm. Nothing at all.

Except his word. But I guess that isn't good enough for you.

 

[Moonbeam]

Moonie, I think this particular discussion is one of the most ridiculous I've engaged in since CK left. I personally thought it was common knowledge that a fair number of people within the Republican Party regarded McCain as a RINO well before the Tea Party existed. Again, I thought this was fairly common knowledge and was hoping for a reasonable discussion beyond that point instead of getting into a trite debate regarding the semantics of the words like "many" and "few". These kind of nuances regarding the rigid meaning of words may seem to be very important to you in the scheme of things...but it comes across as bullshit game playing to me...and it effectively diverts a potentially interesting conversation in my opinion.

I thought that your argument amounted only to a specious defense of the utter ridiculousness of the Arizona move against McCain by virtue of defending it on the notion that McCain is actually a RINO because a few people have claimed that. One can find charges against politicians on anything. I once heard, believe it or not, that Obama is a Kenyan socialist. Even more than what I would call a few people have said so but I consider such folk to be donkey fucked imbeciles and credit their opinions as total bull shit. I am surprised you don't have a somewhat more muted opinion of folk who have called McCain a RINO.

 

[Moonbeam]

Except his word. But I guess that isn't good enough for you.

I took his word for it which is more than he does for me. Are we on different pages here?

 

[MagickMan]

You jump on ,me all the time, make absurd false claims and never admit to being wrong in your ridiculous assumptions. Your claims about me being a holy man hypocrite are just more of your stupid assumptions. There is nothing about your intelligence that would indicate your prior post was sarcasm. Nothing at all.

I give you a small portion of what you dole out to others, but I don't profess to be all holy and righteous, like your hypocritical self. You're only looking at a mirror of your own behavior... :whiste:

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I thought that your argument amounted only to a specious defense of the utter ridiculousness of the Arizona move against McCain by virtue of defending it on the notion that McCain is actually a RINO because a few people have claimed that. One can find charges against politicians on anything. I once heard, believe it or not, that Obama is a Kenyan socialist. Even more than what I would call a few people have said so but I consider such folk to be donkey fucked imbeciles and credit their opinions as total bull shit. I am surprised you don't have a somewhat more muted opinion of folk who have called McCain a RINO.

Speculate all you want but I never really got a chance to make my point as we got hung up on trivialities. Hell, at this point, I forgot where I was even going with this! But for the record, I offered no opinion regarding those who called McCain a RINO. So tell me...why would you be surprised that this non-existent opinion of mine wasn't more muted? Nice story about "donkey fucked imbeciles" though!

 

[Moonbeam]

I give you a small portion of what you dole out to others, but I don't profess to be all holy and righteous, like your hypocritical self. You're only looking at a mirror of your own behavior... :whiste:

Nah,what you doled out is the pretentious claim that I see myself as holy and righteous. That't just you projecting how much more superior you see me than you do yourself. You just wouldn't be able to control your ego if you were as good as you see me as being. I'm just a nobody, actually, but compared to how you feel about yourself, you think I'm a god and if your ego felt that you were as good as you imagine I am, you'd be up on a pedestal screaming, "Look at me!!!

 

[Moonbeam]

Doc Savage Fan: Speculate all you want but I never really got a chance to make my point as we got hung up on trivialities.

m: I wasn't speculating. I was stating my opinion of where you were going to clarify how I saw what you said. The intention isn't to guess what you were up to but to tell you what I see. I'm not interested in stuffing my opinion down your throat as I am in communicating where I am. I see a defensive answer.

DSF: Hell, at this point, I forgot where I was even going with this! But for the record, I offered no opinion regarding those who called McCain a RINO. So tell me...why would you be surprised that this non-existent opinion of mine wasn't more muted?

M : I offered my opinion that their opinion amounts to a hill of beans. I didn't say you had one.

DSF: Nice story about "donkey fucked imbeciles" though!

M: Thanks, I'm something of an artist. I hope you see how colorfully spot on I am.

 

[MagickMan]

Nah,what you doled out is the pretentious claim that I see myself as holy and righteous. That't just you projecting how much more superior you see me than you do yourself. You just wouldn't be able to control your ego if you were as good as you see me as being. I'm just a nobody, actually, but compared to how you feel about yourself, you think I'm a god and if your ego felt that you were as good as you imagine I am, you'd be up on a pedestal screaming, "Look at me!!!

You are a nobody, that's what I was saying. Glad we've reached an agreement there. However, you still behave like the most self-righteous asshole on this forum, there's no way I could compete with the amount of attention whoring you do, and have done (on multiple accounts), for a over a decade. I don't know if you see it as "evangelizing to the masses", but your condescending approach and abusive nature are really hurting your "ministry" and has turned you into a hypocritical douchebag.

 

[Moonbeam]

You are a nobody, that's what I was saying. Glad we've reached an agreement there. However, you still behave like the most self-righteous asshole on this forum, there's no way I could compete with the amount of attention whoring you do, and have done (on multiple accounts), for a over a decade. I don't know if you see it as "evangelizing to the masses", but your condescending approach and abusive nature are really hurting your "ministry" and has turned you into a hypocritical douchebag.

I hope you don't mind if I consider your accuracy about the number of accounts that I have to be equivalent to accuracy of the rest of it. Have you no idea how absurd you are to make such a claim. I mean, why not tell me I have blue hair. You are very funny.

 

[MagickMan]

I hope you don't mind if I consider your accuracy about the number of accounts that I have to be equivalent to accuracy of the rest of it. Have you no idea how absurd you are to make such a claim. I mean, why not tell me I have blue hair. You are very funny.

Deflecting, avoiding, typical LoonRay bullshit. 🙄

 

[Moonbeam]

Deflecting, avoiding, typical LoonRay bullshit. 🙄

I used my internet prowess and different accounts to report the video in your sig. :whiste:

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Doc Savage Fan: Speculate all you want but I never really got a chance to make my point as we got hung up on trivialities.

m: I wasn't speculating. I was stating my opinion of where you were going to clarify how I saw what you said. The intention isn't to guess what you were up to but to tell you what I see. I'm not interested in stuffing my opinion down your throat as I am in communicating where I am. I see a defensive answer.

DSF: spec·u·late
verb: 1. form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence.

I find it ironic that you struggle with the meaning of this word on one hand and then go anal retentive on the meaning of such a subjective word as "many" on the other.

I also find it interesting that you "see a defensive answer" where none clearly exists.

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DSF: Hell, at this point, I forgot where I was even going with this! But for the record, I offered no opinion regarding those who called McCain a RINO. So tell me...why would you be surprised that this non-existent opinion of mine wasn't more muted?

M : I offered my opinion that their opinion amounts to a hill of beans. I didn't say you had one.

DSF: You certainly implied as much.

I am surprised you don't have a somewhat more muted opinion of folk who have called McCain a RINO.

It's things like this as well as your rationalization/denial that you were speculating on my position (when you clearly were) that makes me wonder about your ability to engage in honest and rational discussion.

Our perceptions are so far apart that I don't know how to begin to bridge that gap.

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DSF: Nice story about "donkey fucked imbeciles" though!

M: Thanks, I'm something of an artist. I hope you see how colorfully spot on I am

DSF: Colorful...yes. Spot on...I'm sure you think so.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I used my internet prowess and different accounts to report the video in your sig. :whiste:

I guess now we can add vindictive to your personality traits.

 

[Moonbeam]

I guess now we can add vindictive to your personality traits.

Sure, go ahead and add it if it helps with your vindictiveness.

 

[MagickMan]

I used my internet prowess and different accounts to report the video in your sig. :whiste:

No idea what you're talking about. 😕

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Sure, go ahead and add it if it helps with your vindictiveness.

Says the person who posted the following:

I used my internet prowess and different accounts to report the video in your sig. :whiste:

Vindictive
1
a : disposed to seek revenge : vengeful
b : intended for or involving revenge

2
: intended to cause anguish or hurt : spiteful
— vin·dic·tive·ly adverb
— vin·dic·tive·ness noun

 

[ivwshane]

Says the person who posted the following:



Vindictive
1
a : disposed to seek revenge : vengeful
b : intended for or involving revenge

2
: intended to cause anguish or hurt : spiteful
— vin·dic·tive·ly adverb
— vin·dic·tive·ness noun

Sarcasm on the Internet can be a real bitch sometimes😉

 

[Moonbeam]

Doc Savage Fan;36016535]Doc Savage Fan: Speculate all you want but I never really got a chance to make my point as we got hung up on trivialities.

m: I wasn't speculating. I was stating my opinion of where you were going to clarify how I saw what you said. The intention isn't to guess what you were up to but to tell you what I see. I'm not interested in stuffing my opinion down your throat as I am in communicating where I am. I see a defensive answer.

DSF: spec·u·late
verb: 1. form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence.

M: And? A statement of the speculation that forms the basis of why something is stated is not a speculation but a statement of what speculation drives the statement. It is an explanation of what is behind a line of reasoning.

DSF: I find it ironic that you struggle with the meaning of this word on one hand and then go anal retentive on the meaning of such a subjective word as "many" on the other.

M: I find that I had no such struggle with the meaning of a word, that you are having a struggle understanding what I said.

DSF: I also find it interesting that you "see a defensive answer" where none clearly exists.

M: My problem is that I don't see a defensive answer or even know what you are talking about here. I can't confess then to creating one where none exists. I can't see having created anything much less whether it was created from something or nothing.


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DSF: Hell, at this point, I forgot where I was even going with this! But for the record, I offered no opinion regarding those who called McCain a RINO. So tell me...why would you be surprised that this non-existent opinion of mine wasn't more muted?

M : I offered my opinion that their opinion amounts to a hill of beans. I didn't say you had one.

DSF: You certainly implied as much.

M: The implication that something was implied requires the inference of that implication. We can tell nothing from the implication that an implication was made without authenticating the inference.

DSF: It's things like this as well as your rationalization/denial that you were speculating on my position (when you clearly were) that makes me wonder about your ability to engage in honest and rational discussion.

M: I like you. I care about your opinions. I want to engage in an honest dialog with you. This is what I feel. My feeling also is that you are the one erecting all the barriers to that. I am never frustrated by any problems we have seeing eye to eye. I see you as a good person. I am who I am with you because I trust who you are. You don't put me off.

DSF: Our perceptions are so far apart that I don't know how to begin to bridge that gap.

M: I don't feel that way. I show you my perspectives because I'm not worried if I fail. I don't have anything to lose because you are already OK.

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DSF: Nice story about "donkey fucked imbeciles" though!

M: Thanks, I'm something of an artist. I hope you see how colorfully spot on I am

DSF: Colorful...yes. Spot on...I'm sure you think so.

M: I am only having fun and am more than willing to seem profoundly egotistical to other people. I don't have enough ego to care what they think. I try to expose those things about people that they fear, their ignorant vanity and the false humility it creates. I am the fool in the mirror, the clown avatar.

 

[Moonbeam]

No idea what you're talking about. 😕

I probably shouldn't do this because I'm having such fun with Londo but try clicking on the A. Crowley link in your signature. I did so some time back and noticed it links to a video that has been taken down. I suspect it has been down long before I noticed. Doubtless I went back in my sleep over a number of nights on my various accounts in a time machine and reported it to the, well, to whomever such things get reported.

 

[Moonbeam]

Sarcasm on the Internet can be a real bitch sometimes😉

I've taught him to bark, roll over, and play brain dead. I just can't seem to get him to shake.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Doc Savage Fan: Speculate all you want but I never really got a chance to make my point as we got hung up on trivialities.

m: I wasn't speculating. I was stating my opinion of where you were going to clarify how I saw what you said. The intention isn't to guess what you were up to but to tell you what I see. I'm not interested in stuffing my opinion down your throat as I am in communicating where I am. I see a defensive answer.

DSF: spec·u·late
verb: 1. form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence.

M: And? A statement of the speculation that forms the basis of why something is stated is not a speculation but a statement of what speculation drives the statement. It is an explanation of what is behind a line of reasoning.

DSF: I find it ironic that you struggle with the meaning of this word on one hand and then go anal retentive on the meaning of such a subjective word as "many" on the other.

M: I find that I had no such struggle with the meaning of a word, that you are having a struggle understanding what I said.

DSF: I also find it interesting that you "see a defensive answer" where none clearly exists.

M: My problem is that I don't see a defensive answer or even know what you are talking about here. I can't confess then to creating one where none exists. I can't see having created anything much less whether it was created from something or nothing.

DSF: Another confusing point. You plainly said that you saw a defensive answer.

I wasn't speculating. I was stating my opinion of where you were going to clarify how I saw what you said. The intention isn't to guess what you were up to but to tell you what I see. I'm not interested in stuffing my opinion down your throat as I am in communicating where I am. I see a defensive answer.

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DSF: Hell, at this point, I forgot where I was even going with this! But for the record, I offered no opinion regarding those who called McCain a RINO. So tell me...why would you be surprised that this non-existent opinion of mine wasn't more muted?

M : I offered my opinion that their opinion amounts to a hill of beans. I didn't say you had one.

DSF: You certainly implied as much.

M: The implication that something was implied requires the inference of that implication. We can tell nothing from the implication that an implication was made without authenticating the inference.

DSF: It's things like this as well as your rationalization/denial that you were speculating on my position (when you clearly were) that makes me wonder about your ability to engage in honest and rational discussion.

M: I like you. I care about your opinions. I want to engage in an honest dialog with you. This is what I feel. My feeling also is that you are the one erecting all the barriers to that. I am never frustrated by any problems we have seeing eye to eye. I see you as a good person. I am who I am with you because I trust who you are. You don't put me off.

DSF: I like you as well. It's interesting that you perceive that I'm the one who's erecting barriers when that's precisely what I see you doing.

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DSF: Our perceptions are so far apart that I don't know how to begin to bridge that gap.

M: I don't feel that way. I show you my perspectives because I'm not worried if I fail. I don't have anything to lose because you are already OK.

DSF: It's not about fear of failure....it's about frustration for me.

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DSF: Nice story about "donkey fucked imbeciles" though!

M: Thanks, I'm something of an artist. I hope you see how colorfully spot on I am

DSF: Colorful...yes. Spot on...I'm sure you think so.

M: I am only having fun and am more than willing to seem profoundly egotistical to other people. I don't have enough ego to care what they think. I try to expose those things about people that they fear, their ignorant vanity and the false humility it creates. I am the fool in the mirror, the clown avatar.

DSF: You are a masterful artist and I very much enjoy the color...the "feigned" ego part...not so much.

 

[Moonbeam]

Doc Savage Fan: Doc Savage Fan: Speculate all you want but I never really got a chance to make my point as we got hung up on trivialities.

m: I wasn't speculating. I was stating my opinion of where you were going to clarify how I saw what you said. The intention isn't to guess what you were up to but to tell you what I see. I'm not interested in stuffing my opinion down your throat as I am in communicating where I am. I see a defensive answer.

DSF: spec·u·late
verb: 1. form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence.

M: And? A statement of the speculation that forms the basis of why something is stated is not a speculation but a statement of what speculation drives the statement. It is an explanation of what is behind a line of reasoning.

DSF: I find it ironic that you struggle with the meaning of this word on one hand and then go anal retentive on the meaning of such a subjective word as "many" on the other.

M: I find that I had no such struggle with the meaning of a word, that you are having a struggle understanding what I said.

DSF: I also find it interesting that you "see a defensive answer" where none clearly exists.

M: My problem is that I don't see a defensive answer or even know what you are talking about here. I can't confess then to creating one where none exists. I can't see having created anything much less whether it was created from something or nothing.

DSF: Another confusing point. You plainly said that you saw a defensive answer.

M: Yes, I see now what I missed and remember what I meant by that. I was telling you that was the perspective from which I was coming, my speculation, my feeling that you brought up the notion of McCain having been called a RINO in the past to mitigate his, what I consider far more blatant and powerful attack on him in the present by extremist right winged nuts as if they were equivalent events, not representing a extremist turn to the right in Arizona. You will have to remember why you brought it up if you claim this is incorrect speculation, I would guess, to examine it honestly. Anyway, I was trying to explain what I was seeing in your posts, not what you may have consciously known what you were saying. I was informing you of the basis of my suspicion so you could see where I was coming from. I can't know if I am right or wrong about your motivations. I can only impute what I have learned about my ridiculous self and the shit I do out of ego. I think we are all the same but that knowing ones self opens a door to change. I am sharing what I see.


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DSF: Hell, at this point, I forgot where I was even going with this! But for the record, I offered no opinion regarding those who called McCain a RINO. So tell me...why would you be surprised that this non-existent opinion of mine wasn't more muted?

M : I offered my opinion that their opinion amounts to a hill of beans. I didn't say you had one.

DSF: You certainly implied as much.

M: The implication that something was implied requires the inference of that implication. We can tell nothing from the implication that an implication was made without authenticating the inference.

DSF: It's things like this as well as your rationalization/denial that you were speculating on my position (when you clearly were) that makes me wonder about your ability to engage in honest and rational discussion.

M: I like you. I care about your opinions. I want to engage in an honest dialog with you. This is what I feel. My feeling also is that you are the one erecting all the barriers to that. I am never frustrated by any problems we have seeing eye to eye. I see you as a good person. I am who I am with you because I trust who you are. You don't put me off.

DSF: I like you as well. It's interesting that you perceive that I'm the one who's erecting barriers when that's precisely what I see you doing.

M: I know that. I believe I know some things about myself because I had enormous need when I was young. I suffered so deeply that I couldn't bury it completely. I was naively honest and examined all my palliatives which caused them all to fail. I dies to all my ego dreams and suffered in the extreme. It was only then when everything burned away that I found the jewel in the wreckage, the self that can't be taken by anything. I think I am pretty good about barriers because I burned them and found a treasure and the quality of the treasure is such as to create a certainty that love is all there is.

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DSF: Our perceptions are so far apart that I don't know how to begin to bridge that gap.

M: I don't feel that way. I show you my perspectives because I'm not worried if I fail. I don't have anything to lose because you are already OK.

DSF: It's not about fear of failure...it's about frustration for me.

M: But what is frustration but fear? What is the feeling of frustration. It exists where the ego is thwarted in some desire, is it not. What is the desire? It is the desire, I believe, for unity of self, the end of the egos desire for love and the explosion of love that exists as the true self. It is being. Anyway, that's how I see it.

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DSF: Nice story about "donkey fucked imbeciles" though!

M: Thanks, I'm something of an artist. I hope you see how colorfully spot on I am

DSF: Colorful...yes. Spot on...I'm sure you think so.

M: I am only having fun and am more than willing to seem profoundly egotistical to other people. I don't have enough ego to care what they think. I try to expose those things about people that they fear, their ignorant vanity and the false humility it creates. I am the fool in the mirror, the clown avatar.

DSF: You are a masterful artist and I very much enjoy the color...the "feigned" ego part...not so much.

M: Well, I get to pay a terrible price for it in terms of normal respect, if that's important. 😉 I didn't get where I am, nowhere, by not slipping out of a few straight jackets and mental institutions, eh? I'm too old to take children's hands and skip in the park, so I do this instead. And you have a beautiful hand.

 

[hal2kilo]

I've taught him to bark, roll over, and play brain dead. I just can't seem to get him to shake.

😉

 

[MagickMan]

I probably shouldn't do this because I'm having such fun with Londo but try clicking on the A. Crowley link in your signature. I did so some time back and noticed it links to a video that has been taken down. I suspect it has been down long before I noticed. Doubtless I went back in my sleep over a number of nights on my various accounts in a time machine and reported it to the, well, to whomever such things get reported.

It works fine for me, what are you talking about?

I've taught him to bark, roll over, and play brain dead. I just can't seem to get him to shake.

If you weren't such a hypocritical ass you'd see the great irony in this statement. Your own mental and emotional sickness makes you do the same things you accuse others of doing. However, what makes it worse is that you profess some type of inspiration or wisdom, when it's obvious that you yourself don't practice it. (re. The spark of your supposed spiritual enlightenment is smothered in shite.) :hmm: