Video of San Francisco BART police officer appearing to execute suspect who is lying on the ground

[JSt0rm]

I think its involuntary - I sure as shit wouldn't execute anyone in front of all those people.

He should still be seeing 20 years though.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

if its anything other then guilty i will me shocked.

IF nothing else the bastard deserved involuntary manslaughter.

He is guilty of involuntary manslaughter and that is it. Sorry but the raving mob cannot justify how this was 1st degree murder at all.

Edit: Oh and the title of this thread is stupid. This was a BART police officer not a SF Officer or OPD. The incident happened in the Fruitvale BART station in Oakland. BART police is regulated by the BART transit agency and not by the city of Oakland or SF.

 

[bGIveNs33]

He is guilty of involuntary manslaughter and that is it. Sorry but the raving mob cannot justify how this was 1st degree murder at all.

He's charged with 2nd degree... almost impossible for this crime to be premeditated.

I'd be shocked if he gets a murder charge... more than likely involuntary manslaughter. The jury asked a provaction question early in deliberation that hinted towards that.

 

[waggy]

He is guilty of involuntary manslaughter and that is it. Sorry but the raving mob cannot justify how this was 1st degree murder at all.

I agree.

i am not sure he meant to kill the kid. i just wonder the punishment..

 

[bGIveNs33]

I agree.

i am not sure he meant to kill the kid. i just wonder the punishment..

But you are sure he is a bastard?

 

[StageLeft]

Oh damn, you know what though I actually believe it. So many people there, cops so clearly in command of situation I really do think he may be telling the truth.

 

[TheVrolok]

I've been waiting on this one ...

 

[bGIveNs33]

Oh damn, you know what though I actually believe it. So many people there, cops so clearly in command of situation I really do think he may be telling the truth.

I've followed the case and what I believe is that I don't think you can prove he meant to kill him. I think it's involuntary manslaughter... pretty clear cut.

But yes, IMO, I truly beleive he didn't mean to pull out his gun.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

I think its involuntary - I sure as shit wouldn't execute anyone in front of all those people.

He should still be seeing 20 years though.

No actually involuntary manslaughter would probably garner a 2-4 year jail sentence and that could be waived for probation if appealed and it is proved that Mehserle is not a continuing threat to the community. Of which is reasonable to assume considering he (Mehserle) had no criminal history whatsoever in his past.

 

[alphatarget1]

No actually involuntary manslaughter would on garner 2-4 year jail sentence and that could be waived if appealed and waved if it is proved that Mehserle is not a continuing threat to the community, which is reasonable to assume considering he had no criminal history whatsoever in his past.

I guess when a white cop shoots an unarmed suspect who was fully restrained and posed no threat to any of the officers at the scene, he should get off with a slap on the wrist by claiming that "he grabbed the taser".

Fuck this cop. Since the 1st degree murder was thrown out by the judge, put him behind bars for 20 years. I hope the jury does the right thing.

 

[bfdd]

I guess when a white cop shoots an unarmed suspect who was fully restrained and posed no threat to any of the officers at the scene, he should get off with a slap on the wrist by claiming that "he grabbed the taser".

Fuck this cop. Since the 1st degree murder was thrown out by the judge, put him behind bars for 20 years. I hope the jury does the right thing.

So this cop had full intentions of killing the unarmed suspect? Can you prove that? If not then it's not murder, it's manslaughter. So shut the fuck up you're an idiot. Accidents happen and it sucks.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

I guess when a white cop shoots an unarmed suspect who was fully restrained and posed no threat to any of the officers at the scene, he should get off with a slap on the wrist by claiming that "he grabbed the taser".

Fuck this cop. Since the 1st degree murder was thrown out by the judge, put him behind bars for 20 years. I hope the jury does the right thing.

Nice attempt at spinning the story but Oscar Grant and his crew were very combative when they were apprehended after being involved in a fight on BART. A fight for which the cops were called to scene to break up and investigate. Then again you also fail to realize that 2-4 years is the max sentence for involuntary manslaughter in CA.

 

[waggy]

I guess when a white cop shoots an unarmed suspect who was fully restrained and posed no threat to any of the officers at the scene, he should get off with a slap on the wrist by claiming that "he grabbed the taser".

Fuck this cop. Since the 1st degree murder was thrown out by the judge, put him behind bars for 20 years. I hope the jury does the right thing.

I hope the jury does the right thing. wich is involuntary manslaughter. I just hope he does not get off without a few years of jail.

 

[alphatarget1]

So this cop had full intentions of killing the unarmed suspect? Can you prove that? If not then it's not murder, it's manslaughter. So shut the fuck up you're an idiot. Accidents happen and it sucks.

There was no reason for the cop to pull out his weapon. If you examine the video again it is clear that everything was under control and the very fact that he pulled out his weapon signifies that the cop had the intent to kill. The DA decided to go after a murder charge for a reason, and I hope the jury convicted this guy for murder.

 

[JSt0rm]

But you are sure he is a bastard?

yeah, hes a retarded assfuck bastard. He was trained in how to use a firearm and failed. They should chop his hand off.

 

[alphatarget1]

Nice attempt at spinning the story but Oscar Grant and his crew were very combative when they were apprehended after being involved in a fight on BART. A fight for which the cops were called to scene to break up and investigate. Then again you also fail to realize that 2-4 years is the max sentence for involuntary manslaughter in CA.

The cop murdered Grant.

 

[classy]

Wow, thats just scary. He was down, handcuffed, and wasn't putting up much of a fight. That is pure murder. No way getting around that. Why did he even has his gun out anyway, the guy was under complete control. Wow, just wow

 

[waggy]

There was no reason for the cop to pull out his weapon. If you examine the video again it is clear that everything was under control and the very fact that he pulled out his weapon signifies that the cop had the intent to kill. The DA decided to go after a murder charge for a reason, and I hope the jury convicted this guy for murder.

got proof on that?

because there is enough proof that he fucked up. he ment to pull his tazer and pulled his weapon instead.

there is NO way they can nail him for murder. just not going to happen.

he will get manslaughter but i suspect he will get no jail time.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

There was no reason for the cop to pull out his weapon. If you examine the video again it is clear that everything was under control and the very fact that he pulled out his weapon signifies that the cop had the intent to kill. The DA decided to go after a murder charge for a reason, and I hope the jury convicted this guy for murder.

An expert on the use of force says otherwise when the context of the video and the nature of Grant's resisting was highlighted as the reason to why Mehserle would seek to pull out a taser.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/29/BARU1E6A8Q.DTL

 

[classy]

So this cop had full intentions of killing the unarmed suspect? Can you prove that? If not then it's not murder, it's manslaughter. So shut the fuck up you're an idiot. Accidents happen and it sucks.

Seriously, an accident? He just shot and killed a person in cold blood.

 

[bGIveNs33]

Seriously, an accident? He just shot and killed a person in cold blood.

He said repeatedly "I'm going to taze him" before he shot and said "Oh my God" after he shot....

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Wow, thats just scary. He was down, handcuffed, and wasn't putting up much of a fight. That is pure murder. No way getting around that. Why did he even has his gun out anyway, the guy was under complete control. Wow, just wow

Wrong. He was not hand cuffed at the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BART_Police_shooting_of_Oscar_Grant#Background

"Officer Pirone directed Officer Mehserle to arrest two of the individuals who had not been handcuffed. One of the individuals to be arrested was Oscar Grant, and Officer Pirone’s direction to Mehserle was overheard by Grant. Grant, upon hearing that he was under arrest, attempted to stand up, but was forced to the ground face first. Both Officer Mehserle and Officer Pirone attempted to restrain Mr. Grant and to seek his compliance by ordering him to put his hands behind his back to be handcuffed, but Mr. Grant resisted and refused to submit to handcuffing. Officer Mehserle was pulling at Mr. Grant’s right hand and arm, which remained under his torso near his waistband. Mr. Grant had not been searched by any officer for weapons, either prior to his initial detention or after being seated near the wall."

 

[GoPackGo]

He said repeatedly "I'm going to taze him" before he shot and said "Oh my God" after he shot....

Hopefully its just involuntary manslaughter and probation.

Drunk drivers kill people all the time and don't get much jail time.

This was an accident.

Trained or not...they are human.

 

[classy]

He said repeatedly "I'm going to taze him" before he shot and said "Oh my God" after he shot....

On the video at 1:27 after the shot, if you stop the video you see both of the guys hands crossed behind his back. They killed him, rather than cuffing him. I didn't even know he was black till I googled the name. Maybe one day, maybe one day.............

 

[Praxis1452]

Seriously, an accident? He just shot and killed a person in cold blood.

If you haven't been keeping up with the story, or read more on the original, then you should realize that he meant to taze the guy. That particular department had received tazers earlier that week. They are worn on the opposite side to the gun. He pulled out his gun and fired, but I think it's clear that he meant to pull out the tazer.

Even if he is some pig cop, there is absolutely no logic in shooting someone you're trying to restrain in front of tons of other people with cameras already out. I don't think he was that angry. Just watching the video, look at him stand up after he fires and look at the other officer and then back down. He was shocked.

Involuntary manslaughter is the correct charge.