I think it's fake/staged - most taxidemist you drop off the animal and leave. this is a hunting party. Not sure why they are so cruel probably a "sport" hunter and not a food hunter (difference is why they hunt, the food hunter wants it for eating and will take a lot of pains to get the best meat (ammo shot placement recovery of animal after shot/won't chase wounded) sport hunters just want the kill/trouphy)
That's so mindlessly cruel its funny, "And finally, you notice they do not do anything to really torture the animal, other than skinning it alive." LOL good god that's deranged!
So if animals are just property and are inferior creatures to human's are you of the habit of skinning your dogs when you have no use for them? Such as old age, boredom, etc... Sure you might not need the pelt, but what would it hurt?
DivideBYZero
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Aharami
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1st time i turned it off as soon as he slammed that racoon on the ground. i tried watching it again to see whats so bad....i had to turn it off couple seconds after he started skinning that animal. i just couldnt watch it....i just couldnt. 
i have a headache now
i have a headache now
purbeast0
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well they are loaded off the truck and forced into a single file line. from there, they walk foward where there feet eventually fall out from below them, however they don't fall and their bellies are on a conveyer belt. so its kind of like they are lying on their bellies with their legs hanging over the side of the belt, but there are walls keeping them from falling off the belt. from there they go for a few feet where the belt stops and their head is "propped" on something, and a type of gun sends an electrical pulse into their brain, knocking them unconscious. they don't even feel a thing at all from it. then they move a little more on the conveyere belt and a person actually slits their throat. at this point they aren't completely dead yet, but they are still very much unconscious.
then a person adds a chain around one of their legs, and the conveyer belt (remember its moving the whole time, aside from when they get the electric pulse) drops from below them and they are dangling upside down. these chains they are attached too are also moving, at the same speed as the conveyer belt. at this point about 5-7 electrical charges are shot through the chain attached to their leg. this is where they pretty much die. they die from losing blood. the upside down lets gravity help with the blood loss, and the electric shocks at this point help the blood flow out of their body. (its kind of amusing to watch them dangling upside down and get a shock through their body because they start flailing all over the place, but not amusing in a funny or bad way).
so now they are officially dead. the skinning part is kind of cool though. a person will cut the skin off of the leg, kind of skinning the leg (that is dangling) and attach the skin to a "roller" type device. think of it like when you attach a thread to a spool, and roll the spool to have the thread keep getting added to the spool. the "roller" type device will then go down the entire body, all while rolling and rolling and rippin the skin off of the cow until it reaches the head and rips the skin off the head.
think of it as kind of "turning the skin inside out". it really is like when you try to roll something back onto a spool, although its a little more graphic. at this point, the guys then cut the head off the cow and they start to process the meat.
it is a very graphic process, but honestly, watching it was a great learning experience for me. i really hate seeing animals get hurt, even the slightest, but watching this seemed more of a learning experience than anything and it didn't really bother me much.
TheLonelyPhoenix
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PETA videos show the absolute worst of the worst of what happens to animals, these occurances certainly aren't average. Yet they pitch their message like every non-domesticated animal in the US has been brutally tortured for fun. The worst is when they put cheesy country songs behind the movie.
While I can certainly respect that animals should have certain rights (including ones that are going to be killed and eaten) and that some practices in the meat industry have gotten out of hand, by taking such an extreme attitude PETA have made themselves look ridiculous and destroyed their own credibility.
While I can certainly respect that animals should have certain rights (including ones that are going to be killed and eaten) and that some practices in the meat industry have gotten out of hand, by taking such an extreme attitude PETA have made themselves look ridiculous and destroyed their own credibility.
The video was purposely done to further Peta's cause. Its easier to skin an animal after its dead. Its easier to shoot an animal in the head to kill it. Its also easier to shock the animal then stab it in the neck to kill it before skinning it.
Lame attempt to capture the attention of ignorant audiences.
Lame attempt to capture the attention of ignorant audiences.
I think this is staged. Reason is... If PETA was so concerned about this happening why don't they tell us where, when and by whom??? Sounds easy enough doesn't it? They just want a reaction to meet their cause of the moment.
I hate PETA with a passion, but I have to agree with them on the fur issue. I'm not an activist against fur, but I frown on it. This video made me sick to my stomach.
Air hammer to the head then hung upside down and bled out.
Edit: This is assumption for cows but it's how they do it for pigs, at least for smithfield hams. Don't know why some places use electrical shock method, it costs too much in electricity. Air compressor and air hammer is much cheaper and safer for the operator.
Cut veins and such then you get blood on the fur, then it's not worth as much. just skinning doesn't cause a great amount of bleeding.
Anyone ever seen the film Roger & Me by Michael Moore? I thought the rabbit lady was disturbing. She'd treat these rabbits like her favorite pet, laughing at them and cuddling them and petting them. Then she puts it on the ground and smack it with a club a few times, and skins it.
Its not the skinning that is disturbing, just the fact that she seemed to care for the animals before chopping their heads off.
Its not the skinning that is disturbing, just the fact that she seemed to care for the animals before chopping their heads off.
Hmm, just had a thought. send anyone back to the fvcking stone age and give them some pet rabbits, I bet after a while they'd act the same way
ugh, not cool watching someone step on a creature's face and neck on the ground and watching it slowly suffocate to death
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Yea it's awful. Not sure what last you saw, but while they're skinning it from the hind legs down, it's struggling - then you think it's dead - then they're half way down the stomach and it starts struggling again.
I especially enjoyed the part when they didn't have any skin at all and it was moving around. Kinda looked like it might be painfull, but then again it's just an animal
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Taejin
Originally posted by: Robor
I agree 100%. The part I watched before turning it off was absolutely sickening. I think a lot of what PETA says and the way they say it are often extreme but this is a perfect example of why I'm not one of the PETA hating morons who bash them regardless of the issue.Originally posted by: rbloedow
Human > Animal. Don't equate them as being the same thing.
No one gets the death penalty for torturing an animal.
i think you need a refresher on biology... humans are a subset of animals.
I think you need a refresher on laws. Humans are not treated as animals by the law, and as such the penalties of torture/murder of a human being vs an animal are different.
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: Taejin
Originally posted by: Robor
I agree 100%. The part I watched before turning it off was absolutely sickening. I think a lot of what PETA says and the way they say it are often extreme but this is a perfect example of why I'm not one of the PETA hating morons who bash them regardless of the issue.Originally posted by: rbloedow
Human > Animal. Don't equate them as being the same thing.
No one gets the death penalty for torturing an animal.
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. IMO people who do things like that shouldn't be considered human.
Good luck trying to convince the law that. Whether your opinion states that people who skin animals for fun shouldn't be considered human is moot. Our reality reflects that the death/torture of humans is more harshly punished than that of an animal, and your opinion is nothing but the seedlings of vigilantism.
I like what PETA stands for... the ethical treatment of animals. I absolutely hate how they go about trying to make points though. They make themselves look like idiots.
RelaxTheMind
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i always wondered where furless cats and dogs came from. the first one looked like something straight from resident evil movie.
you guys should check out where our beef/chicken/pork comes from. hehe.
i wish i could go watch it in person. im sick like that. the whole twitching and kicking made me giggle.
i want a keychain give me a pulsating foot!!!
you guys should check out where our beef/chicken/pork comes from. hehe.
i wish i could go watch it in person. im sick like that. the whole twitching and kicking made me giggle.
i want a keychain give me a pulsating foot!!!
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