vid; 69 Camaro vs Supra

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Ornery
You're real good at posting crap with no links to back it up, dick!

your point?

 

[zsir]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: 95SS

Originally posted by: Nebor

Yeah, "advanced cams" isn't understandable for Americans. They're just now learning not to bury the cam in the engine.

I'll take an LS7 over any OHC engine any day.

I'd take a DOHC 6.0 v12 with variable length intake and exhaust runners. :Q

I'd take a LS7...hey even a LS6 would do......Camaro or Chevelle ....

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Nebor
I'd take a DOHC 6.0 v12 with variable length intake and exhaust runners. :Q

and be so damn heavy and huge that you can't fit it into most cars.

It's not heavy or huge. V engines are pretty compact.

DOHC heads are monstrous.

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Nebor
I'd take a DOHC 6.0 v12 with variable length intake and exhaust runners. :Q

and be so damn heavy and huge that you can't fit it into most cars.

It's not heavy or huge. V engines are pretty compact.

DOHC engines are a lot heavier than a pushrod engine.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Marauder911

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Nebor
I'd take a DOHC 6.0 v12 with variable length intake and exhaust runners. :Q

and be so damn heavy and huge that you can't fit it into most cars.

It's not heavy or huge. V engines are pretty compact.

DOHC engines are a lot heavier than a pushrod engine.

then why does about 90% of the market use them?

their advantages must massively outweigh the disadvantages

 

[Ornery]

...then why does about 90% of the market use them?

This BS! 90% of the market also uses FWD. Nice, eh? :roll:

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Ornery
90% of the market also uses FWD. Nice, eh? :roll:

does not.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: dug777

then why does about 90% of the market use them?

BS on the 90%. Ford F-150s make up a ton of the market and not a single one is DOHC. GM trucks do not use DOHC. dodge trucks aren't DOHC either. pretty sure all honda V6s are not DOHC.

ornery is right, you're good at making up BS

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: dug777

then why does about 90% of the market use them?

BS on the 90%. Ford F-150s make up a ton of the market and not a single one is DOHC. GM trucks do not use DOHC. dodge trucks aren't DOHC either. pretty sure all honda V6s are not DOHC.

ornery is right, you're good at making up BS

crap. Honda V6 would be at least DOHC... and those truck's don't make up sh!t of the market. (not in oz anyway, and i bet not in yankland either...)

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: dug777
crap. Honda V6 would be at least DOHC... and those truck's don't make up sh!t of the market. (not in oz anyway, and i bet not in yankland either...)

the accord's V6 and its derivatives (used in most of their vehicles in the US) don't use DOHC. i couldn't find information for ALL of their V6s in a short amount of time.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: dug777
crap. Honda V6 would be at least DOHC... and those truck's don't make up sh!t of the market. (not in oz anyway, and i bet not in yankland either...)

the accord's V6 and its derivatives (used in most of their vehicles in the US) don't use DOHC. i couldn't find information for ALL of their V6s in a short amount of time.

you are right on the Honda V6, but that ain't no pushrod still!
and i stand by the trucks comment...

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: dug777

you are right on the Honda V6, but that ain't no pushrod still!
and i stand by the trucks comment...

the ford and GM trucks combined for almost 2 million vehicles last year. dodge was probably another 500,000 or so.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: dug777

you are right on the Honda V6, but that ain't no pushrod still!
and i stand by the trucks comment...

the ford and GM trucks combined for almost 2 million vehicles last year. dodge was probably another 500,000 or so.

globally?

or in US?

and what percentage is that of total vehicle sales?

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: dug777
crap. Honda V6 would be at least DOHC... and those truck's don't make up sh!t of the market. (not in oz anyway, and i bet not in yankland either...)

the accord's V6 and its derivatives (used in most of their vehicles in the US) don't use DOHC. i couldn't find information for ALL of their V6s in a short amount of time.

Honda's J series (accord, odyssey, ridgeline, pilot, tl, rl) is SOHC. Makes comparable power to Nissan VQ with one less cam per cylinder head.

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: BadNewsBears
http://bargainnet.org/TurboBuicks.wmv

Two grand nationals SMOKE a viper. the camera car smoked em too

:Q

That's just disgustingly awesome. That Viper driver just had his day ruined.

- M4H

OMG. That's insane.

just watch the last drag race ... wow.. that thing is a rocket...

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: dug777

then why does about 90% of the market use them?

It's called volumetric efficiency, I wouldn't expect the pushrodders to understand.

 

[zsir]

sohc ,dohc has many advantages ..... wider powerband, higher rpm, better port layout, fuel and emissions efficent, and on and on and on.....

It's called volumetric efficiency, I wouldn't expect the pushrodders to understand.

I think one thing that "pushrodders" do understand is that there is no substitute for cubic inches...... turbos, blowers, nitrous, whatever works good on a 4 banger will work twice as good on a good ole pushrod V8......There is a simplistic beauty in the brutalness of a big block big cammed over carburated 1200 rpm idle rumbling V8 that some OHC'rs don't seem to understand..... although that Celica owner got a pretty good lesson......

 

[Ornery]

Nothing like having your "hi-tech" wonder machine whooped by an automatic driven, pushrod propelled... STATION WAGON!

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Nebor


That's just not true. For the last 10 years the most powerful and the fastest cars in the world have come from Europe.

I said the most powerful car engines in the world. Top fuel dragster engines.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: dug777

then why does about 90% of the market use them?

It's called volumetric efficiency, I wouldn't expect the pushrodders to understand.

There is much more to the puzzle than just VE. I wouldn't expect you to understand.

And BTW, the VE of my car's engine exceeds 100%. Go figure that one out.

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Nebor


That's just not true. For the last 10 years the most powerful and the fastest cars in the world have come from Europe.

I said the most powerful car engines in the world. Top fuel dragster engines.

dont forget NASCAR!!! yeeeeee hawwwww!

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Slacker
Did the supra stall?

He got his ass stomped off the line so he pretended his car broke

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: dug777

then why does about 90% of the market use them?

It's called volumetric efficiency, I wouldn't expect the pushrodders to understand.

What does volumetric efficiency have to do with where the camshaft is located?

 

[masterxfob]

69 camaro :thumbsup:

i'm looking to buy one as a project car

 

[Ornery]

Bah, everybody does Chevy. How about a Buick?