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Vice presidential debate moderated by CBS, Oct. 1, 2024

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Robert Reich warns of Vance playing to be the Republican POTUS candidate in 2028. He gives a lot of historical perspective, including discussing how the Teamsters cozied up to Republican POTUS candidates and were their militia, violently attacking Vietnam war demonstrators.

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The single most important thing to listen for in tonight's debate

Tonight, JD Vance will almost certainly try to out-Trump Trump, setting himself up to be Trump’s heir and likely Republican presidential candidate four years from now. Listen carefully to Vance and you’ll probably also hear shades of Richard M. Nixon, because it was Nixon who first began peeling...
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Fenixgoon said:
So basically stick to talking about how the Harris-Walz economic agenda will actually help people and Trump's tariffs will screw us all over?
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Would be nice to talk policy in a way that can sink in.
But I suspect there will be a lot of fearmongering leading into personal attacks full of lies tonight.
 
eelw said:
But don’t get the inexperience attack on Walz. Sitting 2 term governor. Multi term house representative. What’s Vance, a 3 year senator is his only political experience.
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1 1/2 years.

...has served as the junior United States senator from Ohio since 2023.

Won by historically very slim margin for a Republican in Ohio, candidacy bankrolled by venture capitalist Peter Thiel from Silicon Valley, over $10,000,000.
 
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eelw said:
But don’t get the inexperience attack on Walz. Sitting 2 term governor. Multi term house representative. What’s Vance, a 3 year senator is his only political experience.
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Same. my guess is Walz is being very conservative (ha) with his real ability to genuinely connect with people. If he can be his typical self, I think he'll be just fine
 
Fenixgoon said:
Same. my guess is Walz is being very conservative (ha) with his real ability to genuinely connect with people. If he can be his typical self, I think he'll be just fine
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Nora O'Donnell moderating should help facilitate this. Besides being CBS evening news anchor, she does 60 Minutes weekly -- bringing out people is a big part of her job.
 
Fenixgoon said:
Same. my guess is Walz is being very conservative (ha) with his real ability to genuinely connect with people. If he can be his typical self, I think he'll be just fine
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But did you know Tim Walz is a Chinese agent?
If you ask the comments section, this is a very serious criminal matter that needs full investigation.
100% chance Vance uses that line of attack tonight.

Tim Walz said he went to China 'dozens' of times, now his campaign says its 'closer to 15'
'I have been to China dozens of times,' Walz said during a 2016 congressional hearing​
 
Muse said:
Nora O'Donnell moderating should help facilitate this. Besides being CBS evening news anchor, she does 60 Minutes weekly -- bringing out people is a big part of her job.
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CBS will not be fact checking and has forbidden the moderators to do so. I remember when CBS was accused of being a liberal network. Ha, ha, ha.......
 
hal2kilo said:
CBS will not be fact checking and has forbidden the moderators to do so. I remember when CBS was accused of being a liberal network. Ha, ha, ha.......
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I'm going to watch tonight on ABC ( who DID fact check Trump a few weeks ago).
 
I am predicting that Vance will talk about false claims of vampires and succubuses in Springfield, that are eating cats. This guy Vance thinks he live in some Forrest Gump nation or something. You just can't trust Vance as he is crazy. I can see why Trump chose Vance as a VP pick, because Vance is basically a younger version of Trump himself.
 
I swear to God when the subject of immigration comes up if Walz doesn't mention that Trump killed the immigration deal the Democrats deserve to lose everything. Pretty sure Kamala didn't mention it once, instead wasting the opportunity to needle Trump about crowd sizes instead.

Every time a GOP candidate mentions the border the default answer should be to point out Trump killed the border deal. It should be automatic, FFS.
 
dank69 said:
I swear to God when the subject of immigration comes up if Walz doesn't mention that Trump killed the immigration deal the Democrats deserve to lose everything. Pretty sure Kamala didn't mention it once, instead wasting the opportunity to needle Trump about crowd sizes instead.

Every time a GOP candidate mentions the border the default answer should be to point out Trump killed the border deal. It should be automatic, FFS.
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Nope. She brought it up.

But I want Walz to snap if Vance calls him Tampon Tim to his face. Throw it in their face about the hypocrisy that apparently it’s the Dems that started the insulting and division.
 
K1052 said:
Yeah like why even have the news division host it if they are just gonna sit there?
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I'll clarify that my no moderation statement was strictly because of no live fact checking.

The network is bullshit! Leaving both mics live during the whole affair is just inviting a shit show. And they know it…
 
eelw said:
Nope. She brought it up.

But I want Walz to snap if Vance calls him Tampon Tim to his face. Throw it in their face about the hypocrisy that apparently it’s the Dems that started the insulting and division.
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Yep, gloves would then be off, you couch fucker.
 
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