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Brainonska511 said:
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Not enough fun with fucking around illegally in Venezuela, so I guess now they want to fuck around in Mexico against groups who have the power to fuck back.
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Brainonska511 said:
Only an idiot fights a war on 2 fronts. Only the heir to the kingdom of idiots fights a war on 12.
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Hitler damn near took a continent.
Why not Don Fuhrer?

If it is not crystal clear by now, Trump is World War 3. This is happening.
 
Jaskalas said:
Hitler damn near took a continent.
Why not Don Fuhrer?
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They can't touch Mexico. Where else is Ted Cruz going to hide when a natural disaster is hitting is home state?

But in seriousness, blindly attacking people you claim are Mexican drug cartels seems like a recipe for getting random Americans visiting Acapulco murdered, or instigating further violence in the US as organized crime looks to pick a fight for revenge.

It's all just such blind stupidity. No strategy, no coordination, no seeking approval. Just pure, grade A dumbassery.
 
Brainonska511 said:
But in seriousness, blindly attacking people you claim are Mexican drug cartels seems like a recipe for getting random Americans visiting Acapulco murdered, or instigating further violence in the US as organized crime looks to pick a fight for revenge.
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Untold scores of people, in the United States, will want vengeance for attacking Mexico.
That will further escalate the efforts of the Nazi SS at shooting Americans, canceling elections, and declaring a new Empire.
 
Jaskalas said:
Untold scores of people, in the United States, will want vengeance for attacking Mexico.
That will further escalate the efforts of the Nazi SS at shooting Americans, canceling elections, and declaring a new Empire.
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Trump doesn't have the manpower, so I don't know why you're ascribing so much power to him and his administration. They are chaos agents with a hand on the gun, but they definitely don't have enough manpower, and they are doing nothing to consolidate what they have.

And cancelling elections? Please. We held elections during the American Civil War - it's basically impossible to cancel them and people won't put up with that. It's not in Americans' nature to start making up rules (hence why you see protesters that get a nuisance arrest being released without charge). Further, Republicans are certainly acting like there will be an election. Public opinion and thermostatic politics are a bitch.
 
Brainonska511 said:
Trump doesn't have the manpower, so I don't know why you're ascribing so much power to him and his administration. They are chaos agents with a hand on the gun, but they definitely don't have enough manpower, and they are doing nothing to consolidate what they have.

And cancelling elections? Please. We held elections during the American Civil War - it's basically impossible to cancel them and people won't put up with that. It's not in Americans' nature to start making up rules (hence why you see protesters that get a nuisance arrest being released without charge). Further, Republicans are certainly acting like there will be an election. Public opinion and thermostatic politics are a bitch.
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Yeah all this talk about cancelling the elections is BS. Now, a war can channel public opinion but I doubt that Trump is going create a war that will make him or the Rs anything but less popular right now. 911 wasn't our doing. Neither was Pearl Harbor.
 
Jaskalas said:
Fox News host declares war on human life, when explaining America's role in the world. Guess our nation is to simply kill everyone it can.

Fox News host Will Cain: "There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest." ​

There was a time when conquest was celebrated, for God, for king, for glory, for Americans. There's no such thing as stolen land. There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest. And if it serves Americans, then so be it. We rule the jungle. We are the lion. ​
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Did Will Cain ever hear of the Nuremberg trials?

Nazis were prosecuted and found guilty under international law.
 
How can we continue to ignore the Nazi style tactics of propaganda and gaslighting? We are well past the complaint of calling them Nazis. They are copying all of the Nazi tactics minus the dead Jews. But fear not, Jews in that story are being replaced by immigrants and citizens of color. And like in the Civil Rights era if white people try to help they get killed too.

Trump is like the Jedi master that pulls out the Jedi mind trick on his people. He convinces his lemmings what they see and hear is not real. Facts from history did not happen.

Latest and greats hits:
We prosecuted Nazis under international law. It exists.
We prosecuted J6ers for seditious conspiracy. They are not patriots.
Renee Nicole Good ran over ICE agent. Never happened.
Trump won the 2020 election.

Not sure if Trump learned this skill from Star Wars or George Orwells 1984. But as Jabba the Hut said only the weak minded fall for that trick.

Question for all you Trump voters, why are you so weak minded? I’m convinced the only thing that will fix this country is a giant vat of Kool Aid.
 
fskimospy said:
This is an insane rant. I could not care less about Israel and think their current government is evil.

That being said thank you for displaying your mental illness so we know where you come from going forward.
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I've provided actual examples of how the US relied on the "rules based order" as it mostly served its interests over last few decades, contrary to your claim. When you have no response, quite predictable you can only resort to short, terse, kiddy terms to slip away from an argument. I realize the topic may be a bit over your head ( "rules based order" and how Israel may fit in), so perhaps best to stick to domestic, dem vs repub arguments with ppl you love to argue with, ie, PCGeek, Greenman and the like.
 
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Muse said:
Yeah all this talk about cancelling the elections is BS.
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So, to help show and connect the dots for you.
It has been said that, Trump's deepest desire is for Americans to start shooting ICE and other LEOs. Because then he can send in the military and declare martial law.
Tried of waiting for us, Trump is going to use the military to strike Mexico. Who have cartels and other people that exist across the border. They exist here.
They will strike back. Setting off a whole chain of events, where at the end of the day, you won't recognize anything in this country.

That's how I arrive at that conclusion. Somebody starts killing Nazis, and the Nazis will rip off the mask and begin their great work. You ain't seen nothing yet.
 
Jaskalas said:
That's how I arrive at that conclusion. Somebody starts killing Nazis, and the Nazis will rip off the mask and begin their great work. You ain't seen nothing yet.
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It's a hell of a calculus. Cause when do you start fighting back? The opposing side is pushing forward but at what point is the terrain to your advantage to a degree where you might actually pull it off? It's a theater with many many moving parts.
 
Possibly 5) Russia will do as act to save face, raise a hissy fit about the seize tankers. But obviously want more of these illegal international acts.

And 6) China will most definitely push back once oil begins to move and demand they get the product they paid for first.

Yes these won’t be military confrontations, still adding fuel to the fire
 
Jaskalas said:
So, to help show and connect the dots for you.
It has been said that, Trump's deepest desire is for Americans to start shooting ICE and other LEOs. Because then he can send in the military and declare martial law.
Tried of waiting for us, Trump is going to use the military to strike Mexico. Who have cartels and other people that exist across the border. They exist here.
They will strike back. Setting off a whole chain of events, where at the end of the day, you won't recognize anything in this country.

That's how I arrive at that conclusion. Somebody starts killing Nazis, and the Nazis will rip off the mask and begin their great work. You ain't seen nothing yet.
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That's how I arrive at that conclusion. Somebody starts killing Nazis, and the Nazis will rip off the mask and begin their great work. You ain't seen nothing yet.
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So, who will get the upper hand? Death or Donald Trump? We shall see...
 
At Trump's big oil corruption confab nobody promised anything beyond basically "we'll take a look". That's a big fat get lost unless there is a huge government check coming.
 
I wonder what happens if Maduro is found not guilty?

Isn't there gun charges? I’m curious what law would possibly be enforceable here. Do they honestly purport to say Maduro violated US gun laws in Venezuela? But he personally didn’t use a weapon in commission of the crime? It’s not like he personally rode shotgun on a boat full of cocaine into Miami carrying an AK-47?

Is it absolutely guaranteed that he will be tried in New York and that, if so, he will be tried before a jury and not just a judge?

If this case hasn't drawn a MAGA judge, or if things otherwise appear to be headed off the rails, DOJ will offer to drop charges in exchange for Maduro “confessing” to helping rig the 2020 election.

I can hear Trump now:

“I want to thank Mr. Maduro for coming clean about his role helping rig the 2020 election and for signing statements implicating himself and numerous prominent Democrats. Folks, the man has done a tremendous service helping make our country great again, perhaps like no-one has ever seen, there’s no more point putting him through our rigged and weaponized "Biden" DOJ. Let’s really make the Democrats mad and send Maduro back where he belongs, what do you say? We’re gonna do it.”

If Maduro is found not guilty or if the charges are tossed and he is released - what happens next? - defenestration.

This has been one of Putin’s favorite methods of ridding himself of troublesome people so Donnie would love to copy his hero Putin. If tossing him out the window is deemed too obvious, maybe he “accidentally” falls down an elevator shaft. The signature move here would be to put him on a “deportation flight” and let Bukele do whatever. Or maybe the flight never actually lands, maybe they just drop him in the Caribbean, Argentinian-style.

Reporter - “What happened to Maduro?”

Trump - “He got off the flight.”

Reporter - “Was the flight on the ground at the time?”

Trump - “No, I don’t believe it was.”
 
At NYTimes:

Machado Offered Trump Her Nobel, but Prize Institute Says It’s Not Allowed​

After María Corina Machado, Venezuela’s opposition leader, offered her Nobel Peace Prize to President Trump, the Norwegian Nobel Institute said it cannot be “transferred to others.”
 
Too many world leaders and politicians are aware of Trumps narcistic simple-mindedness. Some take advantage of that to great effect. The Saudis, Qatar (who gifted him a plush $400 million plane), the Pakistanis who nominated him for the NPP, etc. Machado was simply trying to do the same thing.
 
amenx said:
Too many world leaders and politicians are aware of Trumps narcistic simple-mindedness. Some take advantage of that to great effect. The Saudis, Qatar (who gifted him a plush $400 million plane), the Pakistanis who nominated him for the NPP, etc. Machado was simply trying to do the same thing.
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While he snubs close allies because his wife smiled at Trudeau more than him
 
eelw said:
While he snubs close allies because his wife smiled at Trudeau more than him
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I think it is more that our close allies are democracies and therefore have less ability to bribe him. If the leader of a democracy wants to funnel money into Trump’s pocket they usually need the legislature to go along while dictators can just cut a check.
 
fskimospy said:
I think it is more that our close allies are democracies and therefore have less ability to bribe him. If the leader of a democracy wants to funnel money into Trump’s pocket they usually need the legislature to go along while dictators can just cut a check.
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Lol nope. He’s that petty to alienate an entire country because he’s jealous of the leader
 
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