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Brovane

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Why do you hate the tactics of Martin Luther King and Gandhi? You do understand that the push to make them illegal is solely because they are effective?

Do you think MLK and Gandhi would support a murderous military dictator like Maduro?
 
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brycejones

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Do you think MLK and Gandhi would support a murderous military dictator like Maduro?

Oh is this like opposing Israel killing kids makes one antisemitic and pro Hamas? Remember the basic subject was blocking traffic and your opposition to that.
 

Brovane

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Oh is this like opposing Israel killing kids makes one antisemitic and pro Hamas? Remember the basic subject was blocking traffic and your opposition to that.

If you are going to engage in civil disobedience you might suffer consequences.

Now consider this, she got exactly what she wanted because which was attention and clicks.
 
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Jaskalas

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Officially the USA has to allow free market to happen
Huh?
Did you miss the central planning directly from the White House in 2025?
Trump is personally picking winners and losers. Adjusting tariff policy by the bribe.
The entire US economy has a knife to its throat. At the whims and mercy of a mad tyrant.

So I ask, what free market?
 
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FelixDeCat

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Hey Felix..... are you telling us the truth that you live in the US? I would not be surprised, if it was revealed that you live in Russia and work for the FSB, peddling pro-Trump propaganda.

After all this, and not even an inkling of doubt against Trump, I find it hard to believe that you live in the United States even. Even Greenman shifted slightly to the left after what Trump is doing. Of course Greenman is still a Republican, but they believe that another R should replace Trump.
Oh lawd. Lived in DFW all of my life. Perhaps you are posting from Moscow? Or perhaps Caracas? I don't follow party lines, I do as I please.
 
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Do you think MLK and Gandhi would support a murderous military dictator like Maduro?
You should stop, since 9/11 there s 4.5 millions people who died because of the wars waged by the US, think about it, Maduro is less than a negligible quantity,.

Think that Venezuela GDP was 372bn $ back in 2014 and it was crushed by 80% by the US in a matter of 8 years since 2017, dont lecture people about what is evilness when your presidents are the very ones willfully starving the people of this country.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Huh?
Did you miss the central planning directly from the White House in 2025?
Trump is personally picking winners and losers. Adjusting tariff policy by the bribe.
The entire US economy has a knife to its throat. At the whims and mercy of a mad tyrant.

So I ask, what free market?
Its a free market filled with high prices thanks to privacy equity gobbling up and consolidating many national food chains such as Roark Capital Group.
 
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Muse

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It's a terrible point of view and attitude. Hey the 1910's were better than the 1850's, so they shouldn't have complained much. It's just a weak logical position to defend a shitty corporate center-right point of view that really wants as little structural change as possible and supports an overall very corrupt system. Sure it looks a lot better next to the pure evil that are the Republicans, but it's still a shitty corrupt corporate lobbyist system support.
My point (which you evidently whiffed on) is that nostalgia for the way things were (in the context of the USA, generally) is counter to progressive thinking and actions. I'm not defending the status quo.
 
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Muse

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Personally I think that it's more about keeping China from investing in Venezuelan oil than drugs or the US investing in Venezuelan oil.
I think that the US would rather keep South America disfuctional than let China get a foothold.
Seems the most reasonable assessment, definitely.
 

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Jaskalas

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Not wanting hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed, and ISIS created, does not equate to supporting Saddam.
Yet here we are, war mongering Republicans making more friends.

They cannot learn from history, because all they have is zealotry and an evil hatred of others.
When do we start ordering freedom fires again?
 
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HomerJS

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And the gaslighting is underway. All the right wing media and influencers who claimed Trump was the peace Lreaident and will end foreign entanglements are suddenly flip flopping and going along with Trump’s takeover of the western hemisphere

They are pretending like the positions that had in 2025 never existed. I don’t care about the comparisons we are living 1932 Germany all over again

Putin is calling these shots. That will force NATO confrontation that cause its demise and Putin gets what he always wanted.

The US has just lost all its moral authority to be a peacemaker in the world. China and Russia just condemned the US in the emergency meeting. We are now setup for Russia to roll over Ukraine and China will do the same in Taiwan

MAGAts and all the people who stayed home in 2024 you not I it fucked the US but set up the world for a level of danger not seen since WW2

I guess the sequel was due sooner or later
 

Pontius Dilate

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Hey Felix..... are you telling us the truth that you live in the US? I would not be surprised, if it was revealed that you live in Russia and work for the FSB, peddling pro-Trump propaganda.

After all this, and not even an inkling of doubt against Trump, I find it hard to believe that you live in the United States even. Even Greenman shifted slightly to the left after what Trump is doing. Of course Greenman is still a Republican, but they believe that another R should replace Trump.
When did Greenman shift slightly to the left? I haven't seen him criticize Trump or the administration except in the very mildest of provisional terms on the order of, "If that happened, that's messed up."