Venezuela thread

[K1052]

So we know trumps reasoning but is any of it true? I wasn’t aware of any conflict with Venezuela prior to Trump so my understanding of what’s going on is severely limited.

Multiple admins really haven't gotten along with Maduro but it simply is not that important to be doing this. We're going extremely out of our way for Rubio to conduct regime change in Venezuela and eventually Cuba for his own personal reasons. Fortunately ill considered regime change has never come back to bite us.....wait I am hearing something.

 

[sandorski]

One thing interesting is happening tangentially. The Price of Oil continues falling despite numerous events/potentials that would have caused significant Price Increases just 10 years ago.

Is the US Military doing a buildup of forces causing a delay? If not, what are they waiting for or even doing longterm?

 

[KMFJD]

are the epstein files being released soon?

 

[Jaskalas]

Whatever dude, not sure why you are being so reactionary as if I was defending trump. Anyone on this forum regularly knows I view him as a vile POS that is the single biggest threat to democracy we have ever seen.

Leaving out the sanctioned part of the story is misleading and disingenuous. And yes, it does give him a legal defense as sanctioned boats are not the same as non sanctioned boats. The sanctioned oil tanker seized last week was the test and proves that.

You're not focusing on the big picture. Where a sitting US President claims ownership of Venezuela's oil fields and thus Venezuela itself.
Let's not pretend the law has anything to do with this. It's Trump. It's batshit. It's very on par for MAGA being goose stepping Nazis.

And no "legal defense" has any bearing on my opposition to the US playing regime change. We've been here before, hundreds of thousands died thanks to Bush. ISIS was created by our hand. It is our duty to react very negatively to this and for us to want anything standing in our way to be cast down. No defense of this can ever be acceptable. None.

 

[UNCjigga]

You're not focusing on the big picture. Where a sitting US President claims ownership of Venezuela's oil fields and thus Venezuela itself.
Let's not pretend the law has anything to do with this. It's Trump. It's batshit. It's very on par for MAGA being goose stepping Nazis.

And no "legal defense" has any bearing on my opposition to the US playing regime change. We've been here before, hundreds of thousands died thanks to Bush. ISIS was created by our hand. It is our duty to react very negatively to this and for us to want anything standing in our way to be cast down. No defense of this can ever be acceptable. None.

There is some history there in terms of claiming ownership of the oil fields…I’m not justifying Trump and Hegseth’s actions, but there is a real grievance behind all of this.

https://www.nytimes.com/1976/01/02/archives/venezuelas-oil-industry-is-formally-nationalized-venezuelan-oil-is.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9U8.a9gK.IoQYvX_kHlp4&smid=url-share

 

[K1052]

There is some history there in terms of claiming ownership of the oil fields…I’m not justifying Trump and Hegseth’s actions, but there is a real grievance behind all of this.

https://www.nytimes.com/1976/01/02/archives/venezuelas-oil-industry-is-formally-nationalized-venezuelan-oil-is.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9U8.a9gK.IoQYvX_kHlp4&smid=url-share

Does Trump know or care that the fields were nationalized in the 70s? No. Does it matter to what's happening today? Also no.

Maduro is the last leg of foreign support for the regime in Havana, supplying vital energy products. Rubio knows this and wants it to end so he can next try to topple the Cuban government. If Maduro is exiled or killed in the process that's basically a bonus for him.

 

[nakedfrog]

I'm still baffled by this claim that Venezuela has stolen oil/land/whatever from us, can someone fill me in on where this delusion springs from? Is it fabricated from whole cloth?

Our government = WWE

Been saying this for years.

are the epstein files being released soon?

Supposed to be like Friday or Monday, isn't it?

 

[RnR_au]

Your move Trump.

 

[K1052]

I see a lot of people online ask if he’s stupid enough to start a war that they have spent zero time getting political or public buy in for. The answer to that is yes, they are absolutely that dumb.

 

[KMFJD]

i feel like this could go into the every accusation is a confession thread



from a few weeks ago...salivating about the plunder already
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com / post / 3m6fqegig5y2j

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com%2Fpost%2F3m6fqegig5y2j

 

[Saylick]

I see a lot of people online ask if he’s stupid enough to start a war that they have spent zero time getting political or public buy in for. The answer to that is yes, they are absolutely that dumb.

FTFY. This is all anyone needs to know about the guy and what he'll do.

 

[feralkid]

I'm still baffled by this claim that Venezuela has stolen oil/land/whatever from us, can someone fill me in on where this delusion springs from? Is it fabricated from whole cloth?

Been saying this for years.

Supposed to be like Friday or Monday, isn't it?

Won't that mess up Infrastructure Week?

 

[HomerJS]

I'm still baffled by this claim that Venezuela has stolen oil/land/whatever from us, can someone fill me in on where this delusion springs from? Is it fabricated from whole cloth?

Been saying this for years.

Supposed to be like Friday or Monday, isn't it?

There are several people in this thread that speak Trump. Maybe they can tell us if…

Literally
Seriously
Trump being Trump
Joking

We constantly told we don’t get it that’s why he got elected. Now’s the time for Trump whisperers to tell the rest of us.

 

[MoistOintment]

You're not focusing on the big picture. Where a sitting US President claims ownership of Venezuela's oil fields and thus Venezuela itself.
Let's not pretend the law has anything to do with this. It's Trump. It's batshit. It's very on par for MAGA being goose stepping Nazis.

And no "legal defense" has any bearing on my opposition to the US playing regime change. We've been here before, hundreds of thousands died thanks to Bush. ISIS was created by our hand. It is our duty to react very negatively to this and for us to want anything standing in our way to be cast down. No defense of this can ever be acceptable. None.

He's referencing Venezuela's nationalization of ConocoPhillips' operations in 2007

Venezuela currently owes ConocoPhillips $8.7B in restitution

 

[Jaskalas]

He's referencing Venezuela's nationalization of ConocoPhillips' operations in 2007

Venezuela currently owes ConocoPhillips $8.7B in restitution

You'd think companies would learn, given: Venezuela nationalized its oil industry on January 1, 1976, under President Carlos Andrés Pérez.

And Hugo Chavez wasn't exactly a sponsor of free market capitalism.
A nation has every right to its own land and national resources. Breaking agreements does not permit a war decades later.
There is no excuse for Trump's actions.

 

[amenx]

I'm still baffled by this claim that Venezuela has stolen oil/land/whatever from us, can someone fill me in on where this delusion springs from? Is it fabricated from whole cloth?

Same excuse Iraq used for invading Kuwait.

 

[cytg111]

THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?

 

[DZero]

Trump wants colonies, ended to be a person worse than expecting and the Nobel's Peace Prize won't be for them

 

[IronWing]

Rep. Massie, R-Kentucky, addressed the House today, pointing out that Congress, not Trump, decides if the United States goes to war. Hopefully, Mr. Massie will followup with action to oppose Trump usurping a power belonging to Congress.

 

[iRONic]

Narrator: “Rep. Massie could not be reached for comment as he and his family were in the field, shooting deer, birds, and anything else that came within range of their weapons.”

 

[hal2kilo]

Your move Trump.

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And this is where the shit gets real.

 

[RnR_au]

And this is we the shit gets real.

If he TACO's out now to a mere Socialist can the Trump brand recover?

 

[bononos]

You'd think companies would learn, given: Venezuela nationalized its oil industry on January 1, 1976, under President Carlos Andrés Pérez.

And Hugo Chavez wasn't exactly a sponsor of free market capitalism.
A nation has every right to its own land and national resources. Breaking agreements does not permit a war decades later.
There is no excuse for Trump's actions.

I remembered conservatives a long time back claiming how nationalizing industries was bad, and that Mexico was relatively backward compared to north America because of it nationalized its oil industry in the 30s.

 

[cytg111]

What a shitty end to the year. 2026 not looking to improve.

 

[KMFJD]

one of the dumbest people in politics, and him and that idiot coach have to be front runners of the pack

https://twitter.com/x/status/2001780160878497967