Venezuela thread

[DZero]

Meddling in Venezuela and the Honduran election is sending a clear signal that America no longer cares about human rights, free and fair elections or other democratic ideals. Trump is, for better or worse, trying to out-China China and their “belt and road” initiatives. We should be viewing these moves in the context of neo-colonialism.

In other words, “as long as we get paid and our donors become defacto oligarchs in your shithole countries, we don’t care about your shithole politics, shithole drug-financed economies or shithole human rights” (or rather the lack thereof.)

The issue is that USA is messing hard with the townspeople and in some countries even with USA help, it might end into mini Vietnam scenarios.

 

[ivwshane]

If we were to unilaterally attack venezuela, the world should label and treat the US as a rogue state

I would hope that would be the outcome but I suspect most of the world would remain silent.

 

[Jaskalas]

Today's Drudge roll...
Clearly being a Nazi warmonger is not beyond Republicans. John Stewart just wishes Dick Cheney were still here to see it.

A good, honest, and moral nation would impeach anyone who is actively planning a war of choice.
Isn't that right @Greenman , do any Republicans have the balls to oppose and stop an elective war?
Or is killing people the only thing Republicans good for?

• Trump threatens Mexico and Colombia with military force...
• Quietly builds plans for what would happen if Maduro ousted...
• 'Days numbered,' prez won't rule out ground invasion...

 

[nakedfrog]

Watched the various clips last night and couldn't help but get "Lebensraum" vibes.

 

[Brainonska511]

https://bsky.app/profile/ewong.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3m7lzvzjdik2m

Pentagon under Hegseth wants to murder people and send any survivors to the torture murder prison in El Salvador. Just depraved stuff.

 

[Jaskalas]

The acts of war by the United States keep escalating.
We are a lawless rogue nation. The greatest threat to life and liberty.

• USA SEIZES OIL TANKER OFF VENEZUELA
• BLOCKADE FEARS
• 'SERIOUS ESCALATION'

 

[BoomerD]

well... https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/10/us-venezuela-oil-tanker-seize.html

 

[nakedfrog]

Invading Venezuela is a great way to celebrate a bullshit peace prize.

 

[Fenixgoon]

well... https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/10/us-venezuela-oil-tanker-seize.html

Wtaf. Thats some bullshit. They're probably doing it to start a conflict
Christ almighty.

 

[Jaskalas]

Wtaf. Thats some bullshit. They're probably doing it to start a conflict
Christ almighty.

Thing about this sort of war. It is clearly asymmetrical.
Retaliation will see the United States, or its citizens, attacked where we are vulnerable.
It'll be viewed as terrorism, but it'll honestly be Trump getting Americans killed.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Thing about this sort of war. It is clearly asymmetrical.
Retaliation will see the United States, or its citizens, attacked where we are vulnerable.
It'll be viewed as terrorism, but it'll honestly be Trump getting Americans killed.

Unfortunately you are correct

 

[pauldun170]

The Trump regime announced they will be taking the oil from the tanker that is owned by a russia oligarch and had a false Guyana flag flying from it.

They also announced sanctions of additional ships to today and will be stealing those as well.

We are continuing our military build up in the region as both ships, Growers and F35s are placed in key bases.

We are officially Pirates of the Caribean now folks.

We declare sanctions and we take whatever we want.
We will keep doing it until we get bored and then bomb Venezuelans.
We'll keep doing it until we get an ally installed who will restore ownership of oil resources to American controlled companies and help our oligarchs set up more data's centers and compounds.

 

[RnR_au]

Why Venezuela is too important for America to leave it alone... oil....

 

[brycejones]

Why Venezuela is too important for America to leave it alone... oil....

Old man is incapable of understanding electrification would rather start a war for a resource we can move away from is certainly a course of action that will not be treated kindly by history.

 

[MoistOintment]

My tinfoil hat theory is that I'm convinced that the Trump administration's recent rhetoric and actions towards Ukraine are part of a "trade" - US gives up backing Ukraine in Exchange for Russia letting the US attack Venezuela

 

[Jaskalas]

My tinfoil hat theory is that I'm convinced that the Trump administration's recent rhetoric and actions towards Ukraine are part of a "trade" - US gives up backing Ukraine in Exchange for Russia letting the US attack Venezuela

Russia cannot do shit to prevent a war in our part of the world.
They have zero practical relevancy to it.

 

[K1052]

Russia cannot do shit to prevent a war in our part of the world.
They have zero practical relevancy to it.

Yes, Russian capacity to project power beyond their immediate vicinity is extremely low. The Russian Navy is so anemic that they can't project decisive power in the Black Sea and the whole fleet is basically bottled up in port out of fear.

 

[pauldun170]

My tinfoil hat theory is that I'm convinced that the Trump administration's recent rhetoric and actions towards Ukraine are part of a "trade" - US gives up backing Ukraine in Exchange for Russia letting the US attack Venezuela

How about the Ukrainian who owned the ship that was placed under sanctions in 2022 for operating a shadow fleet to transport Iranian oil anf other 'sanctioned' countries finally got some attention in the white house.

They have an entire office setup to "identify Biden stuff to undo" and came across the reasons behind the sanctions.
Given that the keywords "Israel" and "Venezuela " were found they probably had to spend a day crafting the sound bite required to get Trumps focus and convince him that this particular "Biden action" should not be undone and no, its not autopsy and yes.. Trump's autopen was probably the best theyve ever seen and thats right they dont need it because now they have a they just use "the computer " to add his signature.

Then they give him his juice box and turn the tv volume back up

 

[MoistOintment]

Russia cannot do shit to prevent a war in our part of the world.
They have zero practical relevancy to it.

Nobody said anything about "preventing". I doubt preventing a war between the US and Venezuela would even be something Russia would want, because it presents an opportunity bog the US down in a jungle insurgency.

Rather Russia's ability to supply munitions via back-channels. Or could just be Russia chooses to abstain from a UN Security Council vote. "We stop supplying arms to Ukraine in Exchange for you abstaining from a UN security council vote and choosing not to supply munitions to Venezuela).

INB4: A US blockade. Venezuela has large, porous borders. Many ways to bring in munitions sufficient for an ongoing insurgency.

 

[K1052]

Nobody said anything about "preventing". I doubt preventing a war between the US and Venezuela would even be something Russia would want, because it presents an opportunity bog the US down in a jungle insurgency.

Rather Russia's ability to supply munitions via back-channels. Or could just be Russia chooses to abstain from a UN Security Council vote. "We stop supplying arms to Ukraine in Exchange for you abstaining from a UN security council vote and choosing not to supply munitions to Venezuela).

INB4: A US blockade. Venezuela has large, porous borders. Many ways to bring in munitions sufficient for an ongoing insurgency.

The country that keeps having to go hat in and to North Korea does not have any munitions to spare.

 

[MoistOintment]

The country that keeps having to go hat in and to North Korea does not have any munitions to spare.

Depends entirely on the munition. Russia has no shortage of 7.62 or 5.45. And these munitions shortfalls haven't stopped them from conducting and expanding operations in Africa.

Is Russia suffering a shortage of SA-24 munitions? Russian munitions shortfalls aren't universally across the board impacting all systems. Russia doesn't need to provide large stockpiles of 152mm to cause a headache for the US.

 

[K1052]

Depends entirely on the munition. Russia has no shortage of 7.62 or 5.45. And these munitions shortfalls haven't stopped them from conducting and expanding operations in Africa.

Is Russia suffering a shortage of SA-24 munitions? Russian munitions shortfalls aren't universally across the board impacting all systems. Russia doesn't need to provide large stockpiles of 152mm to cause a headache for the US.

They've broken many of their export contracts, especially for higher end capabilities, due to need for Ukraine. Venezuela has limited capacity to deploy most of these anyway. Anti-ship missiles might be the largest concern but in an outright conflict I expect the VZ Air Force, what there is of it, to last several whole minutes. There is not a whole lot that Putin can give them even if he was inclined and as we've seen with nearly every other country they're aligned with the Russians see that as a purely one way street.

 

[iRONic]

Ohman… carrying water for igor and his 3 day SMO is certainly, a take.

 

[hal2kilo]

My tinfoil hat theory is that I'm convinced that the Trump administration's recent rhetoric and actions towards Ukraine are part of a "trade" - US gives up backing Ukraine in Exchange for Russia letting the US attack Venezuela

Don't give them any ideas.

 

[Jaskalas]

On the eve of America committing yet another war against humanity.
Last time we created ISIS.
What horror will we unleash upon the Americas?

And why are the American people so god damn stupid and blood thirsty?
Why are our people evil, and what will it take to stop them?

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