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HomerJS

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@Amol S.
Of course the source of fentanyl is Mexico and the USA itself, as president Trump clearly mentions but he also mentioned Venezuela.
Companies from China ship the neccesary chemicals to produce fentanyl to Mexico and the USA.
He needed an excuse or perhaps some CIA lead pointed towards fentanyl production and shipping from Venezuela. CIA has used such methods before.

And he accuses the governor of Colorado having ties with the drug cartels and the government of Venezuela.
Since they caught 1.7 million fentanyl pills in Colorado.


What does that mean? Hospitals can no longer use fentanyl? Isn’t it already a control substance?
 

HomerJS

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Hey Felix, what country should we invade next? Got that list ready?

I see you fail to realize Trumps actions have made it more dangerous for this country
 

FelixDeCat

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@FelixDeCat has returned from the grave to let us all he is still sucking Trump’s dick. FDC has been quiet during the latest Epstein revelations but now he speaking out for starting wars in other countries.

Is it his principled stance. No. Because When Trump was lying that he stopped several wars and pretended to criticize US involvement in foreign wars. Here is Felix agreeing with Trump


Now that Trump has started wars in 8 countries Felix is suddenly in favor of the US starting illegal wars in foreign countries.

Release all the Epstein files with victims only redacted

Poor Homer, weeping over the loss his boyhood hero, Nicky Maduro. Keep fighting bro, the dictatorship lives on in his VP. Although she has promised to cooperate with the US according to Rubio.
 
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What does that mean? Hospitals can no longer use fentanyl? Isn’t it already a control substance?
This is not about fentanyl used as medicine but purely as a drug of choice.
People should not use fentanyl as a drug. Period. It is too dangerous.
Trained medical personnel providing medicine to a patient is something wholly different than people that for whatever reason got addicted to fentanyl.
It is garbage as a drug. But so is many of those drugs, like for example crystal meth and flakka, bath salts, pufa, sisa ..

But also, Venezuela as a country should be like a second Dubai. Extremely wealthy because of the oilfields and oil reserves present and the rich nature. But it is not.
Hugo Chavez appointed the right people at the right places to exploit the oil. Maduro went paranoid and chased them away. Leaving the country crippled. Add to that the US sanctions because Venezuela doing business with Russia and China. And all poverty in Venezuela is easy to explain.

Of course this whole situation stinks. the USA wants the oil. That is obvious. Shale oil and shale gas are polluting US soil at an alarming rate and prices to extract the oil and gas increase.
So my estimated guess is that Aramco and Halliburton are very willing to get to work in Venezuela ,lake Maracaibo. Updating the facilities and extract the oil and gas. Of course in exchange for that, the USA gets a lower price to pay for a barrel of oil than the rest of the world.
 
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kage69

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Kim has nukes, Maduro didn't. A lesson the whole world understands.

It's downright scary how Trump can't comprehend, or doesn't care, what he's doing to future world stability.

He just single-small-handedly gave the world community the biggest push to develop nukes its probably ever had. Once again, the exact opposite of what America wants or needs. Hurry up and die traitor.

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SteveGrabowski

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VZ natives and expatriates were euphoric over the fall of Maduro. If you dont believe me, here it is from NBC news: (08:14 and 14:37 )



There is no one in the world outside a few crazy leftists who still support the cruel dictatorship of the fallen regime. I was watching Face the Nation just now and even Chuck Schumer agreed Maduro had to go he just did not like the method of removal w/o Congressional approval. Nevertheless, this is a great day for VZ.
You support the cruel dictatorship of the US regime.
 

SteveGrabowski

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I would love to see Kim Jong Un in American custody.
Not a chance, he can nuke Japan, South Korea, and maybe the western and central US plus has one of the largest armies in the world. You gonna throw your grandkids in the meat grinder of war for Kim?
 

Brovane

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It's downright scary how Trump can't comprehend, or doesn't care, what he's doing to future world stability.

He just single-small-handedly gave the world community the biggest push to develop nukes its probably ever had. Once again, the exact opposite of what America wants or needs. Hurry up and die traitor.

It isn't like this isn't unprecedented. US has a history with this part of the world of doing exactly what Trump did with Venezuela. Not saying this is right, but there is certainly precedent.
 
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Abwx

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Poor Homer, weeping over the loss his boyhood hero, Nicky Maduro. Keep fighting bro, the dictatorship lives on in his VP. Although she has promised to cooperate with the US according to Rubio.
Lol, cultists who are now telling us that to stop wars it s necessary to start new ones
will believe anything their gurus will told them including that red is blue.

Venezeuelian vice president just answered to Rubio that Venezuela is ready to defend herself and that Maduro is the legitimate president to this day, the us warmongers thought that the ruling party would crumble, hence they are desperatly relying on gross lies to hide their total failure, and of course threats since the orange fascist told her that her fate would be even worse that Maduro s if she doesnt obey him, look like the epstein involved crook has been caught pants down on how things unfolded.
 
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cytg111

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Poor Homer, weeping over the loss his boyhood hero, Nicky Maduro. Keep fighting bro, the dictatorship lives on in his VP. Although she has promised to cooperate with the US according to Rubio.
And when they do the same to Greenland, what will your position be then?

This should be a personal survival issue for everyone, international AND domestic rule of law is being torn apart right now, anyone thinking that they wont come for them at some point is delusional. Question is if you wanna stop it before it reaches *your* doorstep.
 
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kage69

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It isn't like this isn't unprecedented. US has a history with this part of the world of doing exactly what Trump did with Venezuela. Not saying this is right, but there is certainly precedent.

I'm not saying subjugating Latin America is new. Hell we overthrew Honduras over bananas didn't we? I'm saying the threat to world peace has never been this pronounced. An American 'president' is siding with Russian and Chinese fascism against the post WW2 order that we ourselves built.

That is unprecedented and that's what really worries me.
 
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biostud

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Any bets on when we take Greenland? Before or after midterms?
I know that they want Greenland, but it's a bit more of a hard sell publicly, and I would even wonder if and military Brass would refuse to attack an allied unprovoked. I mean if everyone simply says no, what are they going to do, sail the ships themselves?
 
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BoomerD

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What does that mean? Hospitals can no longer use fentanyl? Isn’t it already a control substance?
Yes it is…and it’s some GOOD shit!

My pain management doc used it when he did epidurals mixed with versed.…he called it his “cocktail.” I always told him, “Make mine a double!”
 
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Jaskalas

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It's downright scary how Trump can't comprehend, or doesn't care, what he's doing to future world stability.

He just single-small-handedly gave the world community the biggest push to develop nukes its probably ever had. Once again, the exact opposite of what America wants or needs. Hurry up and die traitor.
Unless we purge MAGA from this country, they will continue to invade and violate nations who lack nukes.
Trump is neither the beginning nor the end of America starting wars. Front and center is Marco Rubio promising more. Trump's end will mean nothing.
 

Jaskalas

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And when they do the same to Greenland, what will your position be then?

This should be a personal survival issue for everyone, international AND domestic rule of law is being torn apart right now, anyone thinking that they wont come for them at some point is delusional. Question is if you wanna stop it before it reaches *your* doorstep.
Like Nazi Germany, Nazi America gives no fucks and just wants to watch the world burn.
To think their actions have consequences is beyond them.
 

Brovane

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I'm not saying subjugating Latin America is new. Hell we overthrew Honduras over bananas didn't we? I'm saying the threat to world peace has never been this pronounced. An American 'president' is siding with Russian and Chinese fascism against the post WW2 order that we ourselves built.

That is unprecedented and that's what really worries me.

Would you had said removing Noriega in 1989 was unprecedented? Bonus question, is Panama better off for it now?

The US by removing Maduro, removed a future strategic threat vector in the Caribbean that both Russia and China would be all to willing to exploit.
 

Abwx

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The US by removing Maduro, removed a future strategic threat vector in the Caribbean that both Russia and China would be all to willing to exploit.
So you are saying that Russia was right to invade Ukraine, and while they re at it why not Lettonia, Estonia and Lituania in a same row.?..
 
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