Venezuela thread

[outriding]

Venezuelans in America were dancing in the streets here in DFW as they may soon be able to return home to see loved ones now that freedom will soon return to their country. We did the right thing today and Venezuelans are grateful to America for liberating them. The only losers here will be the criminals benefiting from the former dictatorship. They will certainly try to hold on to whatever power they can grasp.

Here is the rest of the word celebrating:

The claim they were dancing in the streets have been debunked

You will just shove anything down your throat multiple times with pleasure

 

[Muse]

So how is kidnapping the head of state of a country going to limit drug smuggling? And which drugs?

You are living in a bad country. It will be remembered in history as a bad nation that invaded it's neighbours for spurious reasons.

I have no doubt that Trump did something bad, it's his M.O. My question, which you did not answer, is what is the motivation for the action. I am not defending my nation, nothing that has happened on a national level in the last year is defensible.

 

[William Gaatjes]

It is an educated guess : If president Trump is going to support (install) a new presidency in venezuela, Juan Guaidó might become the new president.
Perhaps Rafael Ramírez as oil minister once again.
Perhaps Manuel Ricardo Cristopher Figuera as minister of defense.

 

[Fenixgoon]

The claim they were dancing in the streets have been debunked

You will just shove anything down your throat multiple times with pleasure

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Even if people are happy, thats not how it should be done. The US doing this says thay its ok for others to do it as well, which then reduces global stability.

If someone came and took donald and JD I'd be ecstatic. But i wouldnt be happy about violating US sovereignty

 

[FelixDeCat]

The former oil minister Rafael Ramírez who was the head of the PDVSA national oil company would be a good choice to make oil minister once again.
When hearing him talking about the important subjects. How to diversify the industry in Venezuela to not just be dependent on oil, that is quite inspiring.

Agreed. Ramirez was appointed by Chavez but chased out by Maduro. He has credibility and skill to be appointed Oil Minister of Venezuela.

 

[FelixDeCat]

The claim they were dancing in the streets have been debunked

You will just shove anything down your throat multiple times with pleasure

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VZ natives and expatriates were euphoric over the fall of Maduro. If you dont believe me, here it is from NBC news: (08:14 and 14:37 )

There is no one in the world outside a few crazy leftists who still support the cruel dictatorship of the fallen regime. I was watching Face the Nation just now and even Chuck Schumer agreed Maduro had to go he just did not like the method of removal w/o Congressional approval. Nevertheless, this is a great day for VZ.

 

[Brainonska511]

Rotten ass institutions.

https://bsky.app/profile/bnonews.com%2Fpost%2F3mbktixr33c2f

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mtsw (@mtsw.bsky.social)

Running multiple stories on the same subject - the type of "drumbeat" and "full court press" coverage that they do not give to lawbreaking by trump and republicans but did give to "biden is old." they know how to do it when they want to...

bsky.app

Yep. The media elites running mainstream publications know how to manufacture a story and beat the drums when it is someone they don't like. The fact that they don't do this for Trump and anyone in Trump's orbit, where it would be extremely easy to do, tells us a lot about where these people stand.

 

[K1052]

VZ natives and expatriates were euphoric over the fall of Maduro. If you dont believe me, here it is from NBC news: (08:14 expatriates and 14:37 in VZ)

There is no one in the world outside a few crazy leftists who still support the cruel dictatorship of the fallen regime. I was watching Face the Nation just now and even Chuck Schumer agreed Maduro had to go he just did not like the method of removal w/o Congressional approval. Nevertheless, this is a great day for VZ.

The regime hasn't fallen! They are still in control. Rubio's just trying to pressure them to do what he wants.

Also anybody alive back then remembers this one:

 

[amenx]

Price per barrel of oil are set by worldwide market forces. It really depends on how cheap it will be to get Venezuelan oil out of the ground and onto the worldwide market. This will highly depend on how well security can be established in Venezuela and I don't have high confidence.

If the price per barrel of oil remains low then this have negative impact on US Shale Oil which needs oil above $50+ a barrel to pump out of the ground to make a profit.

Depending on how much control the US establishes over VZs oil policy, Trump may have several options that he could see as beneficial to US interests. Whether they are beneficial to US interests in the end may be another matter.

1- leverage vs the Russians
2- breaking OPEC
3- bankrupting Iran
4- gaining domestc approval for sharply lower prices at the gas pump and the effect it may have on inflation numbers.

Of course all this at the cost of sacrificing US shale oil production. Bet some of his advisors are eyeing no.3 as a primary goal.

 

[K1052]

Depending on how much control the US establishes over VZs oil policy, Trump may have several options that he could see as beneficial to US interests. Whether they are beneficial to US interests in the end may be another matter.

1- leverage vs the Russians
2- breaking OPEC
3- bankrupting Iran
4- gaining domestc approval for sharply lower prices at the gas pump and the effect it may have on inflation numbers.

Of course all this at the cost of sacrificing US shale oil production. Bet some of his advisors are eyeing no.3 as a primary goal.

This ascribes so much absolutely unwarranted intelligence to Trump that my reply is simply:

 

[William Gaatjes]

Depending on how much control the US establishes over VZs oil policy, Trump may have several options that he could see as beneficial to US interests. Whether they are beneficial to US interests in the end may be another matter.

1- leverage vs the Russians
2- breaking OPEC
3- bankrupting Iran
4- gaining domestc approval for sharply lower prices at the gas pump and the effect it may have on inflation numbers.

Of course all this at the cost of sacrificing US shale oil production. Bet some of his advisors are eyeing no.3 as a primary goal.

it makes sense, that the shale oil production will come to an end. The USA has a lot of polluted ground because of shale oil production. Destroying nature with those fracking techniques. The other means to produce shale oil , are very energy intensive and are very costly. It is also impossible to defend when talking about reducing global pollution & global warming.
Then again lake maracaibo is also polluted. The reason can be outdated oil extraction facilities and oil leaks.
It is interesting to see that also there at lake maracaibo the gas flaring pipes are burning constantly. Another proof that the global oil industry is the main source for global pollution & global warming.

 

[amenx]

This ascribes so much absolutely unwarranted intelligence to Trump that my reply is simply:




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There are others that do the thinking for him.

 

[William Gaatjes]

There are others that do the thinking for him.

Indeed. Advisors like for example John Bolton. Every president or minister has lots of advisors. And is very logical. No president or minister can hold all that knowledge when it comes to world activities. During the president Bush days, it was for example Paul Wolfowitz.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

No president can hold all that knowledge

And some hold none.

 

[Jaskalas]

Yep he’s got the taste for it now.

Yes, Trump's foreign policy is only beginning.
MAGA Nazis want to sweep the Americas the way Nazi Germany swept Europe.

RUBIO WANTS CUBA?

"Is the Cuban government the Trump administration's next target," journalist Kristen Welker said.​

"Well, the Cuban government is a huge problem. Yeah," Rubio replied.​

"Is that a yes?" Welker asked.​

"I think they're in a lot of trouble, yes," Rubio added.​

 

[K1052]

Indeed. Advisors like for example John Bolton. Every president or minister has lots of advisors. And is very logical. No president or minister can hold all that knowledge when it comes to world activities. During the president Bush days, it was for example Paul Wolfowitz.

*holds head in hands*

John Bolton who is currently under indictment by the Trump administration?

 

[William Gaatjes]

*holds head in hands*

John Bolton who is currently under indictment by the Trump administration?

Indeed he is. I forgot about reading that. But that does not mean his advises are not used.
There is a lot of changes going in the white house on these last few months when it comes to people advising president Trump.

I am sure JD Vance & Marco Rubio help out a lot.

Edit:
It is bit about how Dick Cheney & Donald Rumsfeld were the big players during the Bush administration.

 

[Jaskalas]

*holds head in hands*

John Bolton who is currently under indictment by the Trump administration?

Trump's Cabinet knows what will happen to them if they disagree with Dear Leader.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Trump's Cabinet knows what will happen to them if they disagree with Dear Leader.

Its not like theyll encounter a window

 

[kage69]

majority of Venezula's oil is of the 'heavy' variety which is a pain to process, they also have huge oil deposits made from tar sands....also hard to process at current market prices, this is one reason (of many) no one wants to go in despite Madura saying please come back a month or so ago, i believe US oil companies rebuked trump on this as well)

Zeihan was saying it will take roughly 20 years and 200billion to get Venezuela "up to snuff." That correlates well to the general level of interest within the US oil lobby, as there is little enthusiasm for that kind of risk outside a small ideological crowd.

The more pertinent effect is keeping this oil away from China. 68% of VZ oil exports were going to China, but that stopped last spring over Trump's 25% tariff threat. China isn't hurting as much as they could be, thanks to black market Russian energy at prices China can pretty much dictate, but they know that won't last forever. I'd be really surprised if there wasn't long term Chinese plans for development with Venezuela, which are garbage at this point.

I think whatever discomfort China is having over energy here is outweighed by Trump helping Russia and China destroy international law.

 

[Brovane]

Depending on how much control the US establishes over VZs oil policy, Trump may have several options that he could see as beneficial to US interests. Whether they are beneficial to US interests in the end may be another matter.

1- leverage vs the Russians
2- breaking OPEC
3- bankrupting Iran
4- gaining domestc approval for sharply lower prices at the gas pump and the effect it may have on inflation numbers.

Of course all this at the cost of sacrificing US shale oil production. Bet some of his advisors are eyeing no.3 as a primary goal.

5- Keeping China out of Venezuela.

 

[Brainonska511]

Indeed. Advisors like for example John Bolton.

John Bolton is not in Trump's orbit. The current crop of Republican staffers and cabinet members are much worse and complete ignoramuses that think making memes and meme-like content is policy.

 

[Brainonska511]

Its not like theyll encounter a window

No, they'll just face unending MAGA death threats and the occasional home invasion of a psychopath with a hammer thanks to their fomenting of stochastic terrorism.

 

[William Gaatjes]

John Bolton is not in Trump's orbit. The current crop of Republican staffers and cabinet members are much worse and complete ignoramuses that think making memes and meme-like content is policy.

I noticed. Trump and Maduro are a little bit the same. With Maduro letting his staff create cartoons about super mustache (Maduro).
I would really lose all confidence in the USA if president Trump would come up with his own megalomaniac cartoons.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/19/americas/venezuelan-propaganda-conflict-us-latam-intl

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[HomerJS]

Venezuelans in America were dancing in the streets here in DFW as they may soon be able to return home to see loved ones now that freedom will soon return to their country. We did the right thing today and Venezuelans are grateful to America for liberating them. The only losers here will be the criminals benefiting from the former dictatorship. They will certainly try to hold on to whatever power they can grasp.

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@FelixDeCat has returned from the grave to let us all he is still sucking Trump’s dick. FDC has been quiet during the latest Epstein revelations but now he speaking out for starting wars in other countries.

Is it his principled stance. No. Because When Trump was lying that he stopped several wars and pretended to criticize US involvement in foreign wars. Here is Felix agreeing with Trump

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Now that Trump has started wars in 8 countries Felix is suddenly in favor of the US starting illegal wars in foreign countries.

Release all the Epstein files with victims only redacted