Vegan Parents Guilty Of Starving Son

[cjchaps]

That latest article basically said they underfed the baby and then used veganism as a defense to try and get it out of. They were also scaried of hospitals because of the germs. Those wackos are probably better off in jail and not being part of society.

 

[oogabooga]

Originally posted by: cjchaps
That latest article basically said they underfed the baby and then used veganism as a defense to try and get it out of. They were also scaried of hospitals because of the germs. Those wackos are probably better off in jail and not being part of society.

It almost sounds like they feel guilty for that they did. Regardless of how they feel, they are so damn guilty it makes me sick. I don't care how liberal/conservative/wacko/nonwacko , etcetc. Surely SURELY we can all agree that a baby should not LOSE weight and be three pounds.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: DougK62
Life in prison? Seems harsh to me. They obviously have mental issues.

P.S. What does being vegan have to do with a 6 week old baby anyway? It's not as if you'd normally be feeding them a side of beef at that age.

Vegans don't generally ingest any sort of dairy. Babies normally drink milk. Milk is dairy.

It's more about animal sources. Most aren't considering a mother's milk to her child other than the mentally challenged or lunatics.

I am torn between considering an animal friendly diet vs what I was brought up with and used to.

I look at eggs and milk as renewable resources. However; I understand the veggie crowd in that renewable resource usually forces the animal in a pen and possibly crippled to produce it.

The world is a screwed up place, but making your offspring an example has no place.

 

[voodoodrul]

Let me quote some Tool to answer this:


And the angel of the Lord came unto me,
snatching me up from my
place of slumber,
and took me on high,
and higher still until we
moved in the spaces betwixt the air itself.
and he bore me unto a
vast farmland of our own midwest,
and as we descended cries of
impending doom rose from the soil.
one thousand, nay, a million
voices full of fear.
and terror possessed me then.
and I begged,

"Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?"
And the angel said unto me,
"These are the cries of the carrots,
the cries of the carrots.
You see, reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day
and to them it is the holocaust."
And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat
like the tears of one millions terrified brothers
and roared,
"Hear me now,
I have seen the light,
they have a consciousness,
they have a life,
they have a soul.
damn you!
let the rabbits wear glasses,
save our brothers...can I get an amen?
can I get a hallelujah? thank you, Jesus.

life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on...
this is necessary

it was daylight when you woke up in your ditch.
you looked up at your sky.
that made blue be your color.
you had your knife with you there too.
when you stood up there was goo all over your clothes.
your hands were sticky.
you wiped them on your grass,
so now your color was green.
oh Lord, why did everything always have
to keep changing like this?
you were already getting nervous again.
your head hurt and it rang when you stood up.
your head was almost empty.
it always hurt you when you woke up like this.
you crawled up out of your ditch unto your gravel road
and you began to walk
and waited for the rest of your mind to come back to you.
you could see the car parked far down the road
and you walked toward it.
if God is our father, you though,
then Satan must be our cousin.
why didn't anyone else understand these important things?
when you got to your car,
you tried all the doors,
but they were locked.
it was a red car and it was new.
there was an expensive leather camera case lying on the seat.
out across your field
you could see two tiny people walking by your woods.
you began to walk towards them.
now red was your color and of course,
those little people out there were yours too

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: glutenberg
I'd imagine a hungry baby would cry quite a bit signifying to the parents that something isn't quite right. Worry free parents are a no no.

crying becomes a learned behavior. If you don't get a response from it, you stop wasting energy doing it.

Crying is an instinct in babies. A newborn baby isn't going to learn to stop crying in 6 weeks.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Tiamat
parents should have to pass parenting courses or something. This is rediculous.

Would spelling be on that test?

Cousin Larry?
Anyway, this is horribly sad. Like everyone says, how can you not notice? I've known lots of parents who would take their kid to the ER if she made a weird noise or ate .1 ounces less than normal one day. All I can say is that at least the baby isn't suffering anymore.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Vic

There's always nutballs in any group. Mostly because nutballs need and seek groups to belong to because they have weak minds and have to apply themselves to some form of extremism in order to find self-meaning..

But depending on the group, one may attract more nutballs than another.

It seems that in some groups, they're just infested with wackos. Look at Vegan websites and Vegan magazines, they obviously cater to a certain lifestyle that extends far beyond simply the Vegan diet.

For instance, a very large percentage of vegans seem to be activists, usually of more than one cause.

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: gwrober

Originally posted by: j00fek
i would starve those bastards as a sentance

Or leave them in a cell with nothing but animal products....

Ha, they aren't going to be getting Vegan meals in prison!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: glutenberg
I'd imagine a hungry baby would cry quite a bit signifying to the parents that something isn't quite right. Worry free parents are a no no.

crying becomes a learned behavior. If you don't get a response from it, you stop wasting energy doing it.

Crying is an instinct in babies. A newborn baby isn't going to learn to stop crying in 6 weeks.

Well actually once they pick up on no response and it costing them energy to do so, 6 weeks is probably plenty of time.

All humans are different though.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: voodoodrul
Let me quote some Tool to answer this:


And the angel of the Lord came unto me,
snatching me up from my
place of slumber,
and took me on high,
and higher still until we
moved in the spaces betwixt the air itself.
and he bore me unto a
vast farmland of our own midwest,
and as we descended cries of
impending doom rose from the soil.
one thousand, nay, a million
voices full of fear.
and terror possessed me then.
and I begged,

"Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?"
And the angel said unto me,
"These are the cries of the carrots,
the cries of the carrots.
You see, reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day
and to them it is the holocaust."
And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat
like the tears of one millions terrified brothers
and roared,
"Hear me now,
I have seen the light,
they have a consciousness,
they have a life,
they have a soul.
damn you!
let the rabbits wear glasses,
save our brothers...can I get an amen?
can I get a hallelujah? thank you, Jesus.

life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on...
this is necessary

it was daylight when you woke up in your ditch.
you looked up at your sky.
that made blue be your color.
you had your knife with you there too.
when you stood up there was goo all over your clothes.
your hands were sticky.
you wiped them on your grass,
so now your color was green.
oh Lord, why did everything always have
to keep changing like this?
you were already getting nervous again.
your head hurt and it rang when you stood up.
your head was almost empty.
it always hurt you when you woke up like this.
you crawled up out of your ditch unto your gravel road
and you began to walk
and waited for the rest of your mind to come back to you.
you could see the car parked far down the road
and you walked toward it.
if God is our father, you though,
then Satan must be our cousin.
why didn't anyone else understand these important things?
when you got to your car,
you tried all the doors,
but they were locked.
it was a red car and it was new.
there was an expensive leather camera case lying on the seat.
out across your field
you could see two tiny people walking by your woods.
you began to walk towards them.
now red was your color and of course,
those little people out there were yours too

Puff, puff...pass son; you are holding it too long. :beer:

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
For instance, a very large percentage of vegans seem to be activists, usually of more than one cause.

Just being a vegan is being an activist that chooses not to eat meat.

That just makes no sense.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
For instance, a very large percentage of vegans seem to be activists, usually of more than one cause.

Just being a vegan is being an activist that chooses not to eat meat.

That just makes no sense.

What I mean is that many vegans are advocates of the cause.

I don't attend marches advocating the view that people should eat meat, but you see a LOT of activists advocating a vegan lifestyle. In addition, you'll find that a good amount of them aren't just advocates of Veganism, but also attend other rallies.

It seems to be a part of the counterculture lifestyle.

 

[alkemyst]

You just qualified your own argument. Being any type of non-meat eater in america is counterculture. Usually when someone makes that much effort, they continue along.

The same thing holds true to those that create laws vs those that just live. It's easier to pass a law that restricts than one that allows.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Veganism has almost nothing to do with the kid being dead.

let's list the misconceptions.

1. breastmilk was being given to the child. Vegan diets may not produce much breastmilk anyway.
2. Veganism didn't kill the child.

Going from these two conditions, it sounds like Veganism does have something to do with the kid dying.

1. They were relying on breastmilk to feed the kid.
2. Vegan diets may not produce much breastmilk.


Now I'm not saying that it's the cause, I'm just saying that those points didn't help your case.

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Veganism has almost nothing to do with the kid being dead.

let's list the misconceptions.

1. breastmilk was being given to the child. Vegan diets may not produce much breastmilk anyway.
2. Veganism didn't kill the child.

Going from these two conditions, it sounds like Veganism does have something to do with the kid dying.

1. They were relying on breastmilk to feed the kid.
2. Vegan diets may not produce much breastmilk.


Now I'm not saying that it's the cause, I'm just saying that those points didn't help your case.

people were making the false assumption that breastmilk wasn't being fed to the child. it was.

whether or not they fed it breastmilk matters little. they didn't feed it enough.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Veganism has almost nothing to do with the kid being dead.

let's list the misconceptions.

1. breastmilk was being given to the child. Vegan diets may not produce much breastmilk anyway.
2. Veganism didn't kill the child.

Going from these two conditions, it sounds like Veganism does have something to do with the kid dying.

1. They were relying on breastmilk to feed the kid.
2. Vegan diets may not produce much breastmilk.


Now I'm not saying that it's the cause, I'm just saying that those points didn't help your case.

Look at the big brain on 911TTZ...guns are the cause of death too, not those that wield them.

 

[iskim86]

typical animal rights activists.

animal life comes before human life. kill them.

 

[Ruptga]

seems to be one of two things here,

1. they're stupider than a log and don't know anything about babies or reality in general
2. they're using veganism as an excuse for letting their kid die

yeah yeah it's a false dichotomy, there are other less polar possiblities, but for the sake of simplicity...

 

[danielackerman]

they shouldve got the death penalty. hippie fux. the death of their child is not even enough a punishment for such ignorance and utopian arrogance. this makes me sick.

 

[Gdepp519]

well my question is this... can you be a vegan in jail??? or even a vegetarian for that matter??? or is it.. u eat what you're given or you don't eat at all???

 

[Atheus]

I knew there was a reason I hated vegans.

 

[TravisT]

Well, i hope they enjoy their vegan diet in prison... all they'll be getting is some molded bread.

 

[Gdepp519]

bet thats gotta suck

 

[tealk]

"damn. i am starting to think we should have people take a test before they are allowed to have kids. yes i know it is impossible to do but damn.
this is just sad. baby's need to eat a LOT. sigh "

I agree 100% with thie statement!

 

[Deleted member 4644]

"felony murder which calls for a mandatory life prison sentence. "

WOW. Those hillbillies in Georgia REALLY have sh!tty laws. FELONY MURDER = MANDATORY LIFE?

That is insane.

For those who don't know, felony murder is a doctrine that can be used to convict someone of murder when a person dies during the commission of a non-murder felony, such as robbery.

To be clear, these parents SHOULD have been convicted of malice murder or reckless heart murder (basically a gross recklessness standard of "a substantial and unjustifiable risky behavior which grossly deviates from the behavior of a law abiding citizen).

However, the prosecutor should not have sought felony murder on top of that, especially if GA has some insane 1700s rule that felony murder = mandatory life.