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Not under the felony murder doctrine.
This prosecutor was an ass, unless there is something being unreported.
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Vegan Parents Guilty Of Starving Son
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Not under the felony murder doctrine.
This prosecutor was an ass, unless there is something being unreported.
Chrishuff1
Platinum Member
So...uhh do they serve vegan meals in the slammer? maybe they can die the same painful death...
waggy
No Lifer
cnn
MIAMI, Florida -- A couple who kept their five children on a strict raw foods diet was cleared of aggravated manslaughter Monday for the death of their 6-month-old baby, but convicted of four counts of child neglect.
A Miami jury returned the verdict after less than 90 minutes of deliberation in the trial of Joseph and Lamoy Andressohn, who were accused of feeding their children an inadequate diet of raw fruits and vegetables in spite of signs that they appeared malnourished and underweight.
The four counts of neglect relate to the Andressohns' oldest surviving children, ages 4 to 9. They weighed less than 97 percent of other children their ages, according to prosecution testimony, when baby Woyah died on May 15, 2003.
The infant weighed less than 7 pounds and was 22 inches long when she died, less than half the average for children her age, according to prosecution medical experts.
During his closing argument Monday, Assistant State Attorney Herbert Walker told jurors the baby and her siblings became "sacrificial lambs" for their parents' zealous beliefs.
"This person did not grow and did not thrive, and it was these two people who didn't feed her," Walker said, pointing at the defendants with one hand and holding in the other a now-familiar picture of the emaciated infant.
With the split verdict, the panel seemed to accept in part the defense theory that baby Woyah died from an infection caused by a congenital defect which weakened her immune system.
Defense attorney Ellis Rubin pointed out that the other four children were raised on the same diet, and that Lamoy Andressohn stopped breast-feeding Woyah's 18-month-old sister, Rayah, at three months, just as she had Woyah, replacing the milk with a formula of wheat grass, almond and coconut juice.
Rubin also argued that the Andressohns were scapegoats of Florida's beleaguered Child Protective Services, whose case workers had visited the family's Homestead home less than a week before Woyah's death.
The agency had come under fire in an unrelated case when it as discovered a foster child had been missing for eight months. The child, Rilyah Wilson, was never found.
"This case didn't start with the death of Woyah Andressohn," Rubin said in his closing. "It started when complaints about Mrs. Andressohn's lifestyle and how she was handling her children were made to the Florida Department of Children and Families."
After the verdict, Lamoy Andressohn, 30, said she looked forward to being reunited with her surviving children, including a new baby girl, Joyah, who was born after the couple's arrest in June 2003.
Joyah Andressohn lives with an unidentified foster family, although she was spotted outside the courtroom Monday being breast-fed by Lamoy Andressohn.
Joseph Andressohn, 36, echoed his wife's sentiments.
"I do consider it a victory, although our daughter is still not with us," he said, referring to Woyah.
The pair still face up to 20 years in prison on the four counts of child neglect when they are sentenced on December 15, but could receive probation. A hearing to determine if they will remain free on bond was scheduled Thursday.
Since the Andressohns lost custody in August 2003 pending the outcome of their trial, the other four children have lived with Joseph Andressohn's sister.
Mary Andressohn, an agent with the Department of Homeland Security testified at trial that the children had each gained at least 10 pounds since moving in with her.
The Andressohns caught their first glimpse of their two oldest sons in two years when the boys testified via video that their parents often locked the refrigerator and taught them that cooked foods were "evil."
It is unclear how the verdict will affect the couple's current custody arrangement, since the decision ultimately lies with the dependency court, but defense attorney Rubin said he was confident that there would be a "family reunion" within the year.
"They're not a danger to anybody. They were only doing what they thought was right for the lifestyle of the children," Rubin said.
Prosecutor Walker admitted he was surprised by the verdict but said he accepted the jury's decision.
"It was a devastating feeling hearing the words 'not guilty' on first count. Then the feeling of devastation was followed by confusion when I heard 'guilty' on the second," Walker said, adding he felt there was more evidence to prove manslaughter than neglect.
"Baby Woyah's death was something I didn't take lightly, given the circumstances of her death," Walker said. "She was a defenseless child, so the state attempted to speak on her behalf."
wow. they get away with the murder. at least they are charged with something. but wow.
MIAMI, Florida -- A couple who kept their five children on a strict raw foods diet was cleared of aggravated manslaughter Monday for the death of their 6-month-old baby, but convicted of four counts of child neglect.
A Miami jury returned the verdict after less than 90 minutes of deliberation in the trial of Joseph and Lamoy Andressohn, who were accused of feeding their children an inadequate diet of raw fruits and vegetables in spite of signs that they appeared malnourished and underweight.
The four counts of neglect relate to the Andressohns' oldest surviving children, ages 4 to 9. They weighed less than 97 percent of other children their ages, according to prosecution testimony, when baby Woyah died on May 15, 2003.
The infant weighed less than 7 pounds and was 22 inches long when she died, less than half the average for children her age, according to prosecution medical experts.
During his closing argument Monday, Assistant State Attorney Herbert Walker told jurors the baby and her siblings became "sacrificial lambs" for their parents' zealous beliefs.
"This person did not grow and did not thrive, and it was these two people who didn't feed her," Walker said, pointing at the defendants with one hand and holding in the other a now-familiar picture of the emaciated infant.
With the split verdict, the panel seemed to accept in part the defense theory that baby Woyah died from an infection caused by a congenital defect which weakened her immune system.
Defense attorney Ellis Rubin pointed out that the other four children were raised on the same diet, and that Lamoy Andressohn stopped breast-feeding Woyah's 18-month-old sister, Rayah, at three months, just as she had Woyah, replacing the milk with a formula of wheat grass, almond and coconut juice.
Rubin also argued that the Andressohns were scapegoats of Florida's beleaguered Child Protective Services, whose case workers had visited the family's Homestead home less than a week before Woyah's death.
The agency had come under fire in an unrelated case when it as discovered a foster child had been missing for eight months. The child, Rilyah Wilson, was never found.
"This case didn't start with the death of Woyah Andressohn," Rubin said in his closing. "It started when complaints about Mrs. Andressohn's lifestyle and how she was handling her children were made to the Florida Department of Children and Families."
After the verdict, Lamoy Andressohn, 30, said she looked forward to being reunited with her surviving children, including a new baby girl, Joyah, who was born after the couple's arrest in June 2003.
Joyah Andressohn lives with an unidentified foster family, although she was spotted outside the courtroom Monday being breast-fed by Lamoy Andressohn.
Joseph Andressohn, 36, echoed his wife's sentiments.
"I do consider it a victory, although our daughter is still not with us," he said, referring to Woyah.
The pair still face up to 20 years in prison on the four counts of child neglect when they are sentenced on December 15, but could receive probation. A hearing to determine if they will remain free on bond was scheduled Thursday.
Since the Andressohns lost custody in August 2003 pending the outcome of their trial, the other four children have lived with Joseph Andressohn's sister.
Mary Andressohn, an agent with the Department of Homeland Security testified at trial that the children had each gained at least 10 pounds since moving in with her.
The Andressohns caught their first glimpse of their two oldest sons in two years when the boys testified via video that their parents often locked the refrigerator and taught them that cooked foods were "evil."
It is unclear how the verdict will affect the couple's current custody arrangement, since the decision ultimately lies with the dependency court, but defense attorney Rubin said he was confident that there would be a "family reunion" within the year.
"They're not a danger to anybody. They were only doing what they thought was right for the lifestyle of the children," Rubin said.
Prosecutor Walker admitted he was surprised by the verdict but said he accepted the jury's decision.
"It was a devastating feeling hearing the words 'not guilty' on first count. Then the feeling of devastation was followed by confusion when I heard 'guilty' on the second," Walker said, adding he felt there was more evidence to prove manslaughter than neglect.
"Baby Woyah's death was something I didn't take lightly, given the circumstances of her death," Walker said. "She was a defenseless child, so the state attempted to speak on her behalf."
wow. they get away with the murder. at least they are charged with something. but wow.
How come your posts always seem inflammatory? You can go from being cool with someone to making an oddly personal attack the very next post. Can't you be a little more tactful?
And you used a really bad example with the gun analogy. If you spent a minute looking at the gun thread that was going on, you'd instantly see my view on that.
Jesus the Porkyeti
Member
That got a good chuckle out of me. :laugh:
Veganism as an ideology is fairly radical and one in conflict with most of the world, and thus might attract those already prone to personality problems and/or personal/social dysfunction, not different than how screwed-up people seem to gravitate towards rigid or puritanical religious views. i.e. the reason for their conflict isn't because they are screwed-up, but because everyone else is screwed-up.
It permits appeasement of whatever else is going on with them internally unrelated to any genuine concern or care for animals and allows them to feel morally superior to...well...pretty much the rest of the world.
ShotgunSteven
Lifer
I thought I heard on the radio last night that they had been convicted of murder, must have been the original couple.
moshquerade
No Lifer
yeh, i read they got life in prison.
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