Vasectomy at 28: One man's decision

[manowar821]

I've always thought the Vasclip was pretty interesting. It's easily reversible and quite a bit less invasive.

 

[eakers]

my brother had a vasectomy at 26 and even though he had 3 kids he had to really fight the doctor because no doctor wanted to do it on someone so young.

Fast forward 6 years, he is divorced, remarried, had it reversed and had a baby.

 

[raystorm]

Don't know anything about the procedure but if he for some reason changes his tune in the future he can always adopt. Plenty of wonderful kids out there who want a good home.

 

[maddogchen]

his loss

 

[michaelsslave]

^ you guys do realize that he can get it reversed..... anyway i think id be fun, no more accidental children!

 

[GTaudiophile]

Meanwhile, some guy below the poverty line has impregnated 20 women and none of the children will know his name.

Like everyone else, this guy is going to grow up and start paying 80% of his income in taxes just to pay for all the entitlements for the poor.

Sorry, just had to be political.

My opinion? He was too young to do it but it's his life. He can do what he wants with it.

 

[Rill22]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
People that think like this seem to be self centered to me, and it just rubs me the wrong way. It's like they're saying "My wants and needs are the most important, and I'm not going to share my life or change my lifestyle for any reason."

I don't understand how it's self-centered. Aren't his wants and needs the most important? Whose should he hold above his? It's his life.

I wouldn't have done it at 28, but he can do what he pleases, and /thumbsup for telling women straight out.

 

[LegendKiller]

I think it's sad that there are so many smart and viable people who choose not to have babies. If you look at developing modern countries from Asia or others, the smartest do what they can to multiply. Here, often times the smartest do not do that.

I have a good friend that's in her 40s, is a SVP at a major i-bank, makes millions a year, but waited too long and now can't have kids. She's insanely intelligent, a person that I have talked to for hours about different subjects. It's really too bad.

I have seen other cases like this in my life. People either don't want to, or put off kids until it's too late. They are all very intelligent, successful and driven people.

This is what differentiates us going forward, do we become a declining country with brain-drain, because our smart people don't have kids, but our stupid people do?

That's my main concern. Stupid people pop out kids like rabbits.

 

[Rill22]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
This is what differentiates us going forward, do we become a declining country with brain-drain, because our smart people don't have kids, but our stupid people do?

You're right, it sucks that perhaps we're being populated with morons, who will, in all likelihood, continue the cycle. But is it fair to ask a smart, viable person who doesn't want kids to have them anyways, for the sake of the world?

 

[lupi]

I'd rather just get a minivan, should be close enough.

 

[BoberFett]

I got snipped at 27, but I already had a daughter. My friend got snipped at 30 because he never wants kids, though he had to go through many doctors to find one who would do it. My new wife would have gotten her tubes tied at 18 if she could, but doctors all refused to do it claiming "she'd change her mind". So doctors will gladly abort fetuses because it's the woman's choice when it comes to stopping a pregnancy, but apparently it's not her body when it comes to preventing a pregnancy. Reproductive rights in this country are completely fucked.

As for people not wanting kids, I think it's that just sound decision making in today's political climate. I love my daughter more than anything, but I realize what a liability she is from a purely financial and legal standpoint. Fathers in particular.

 

[ElFenix]

He?s not alone. Urologists around the country say that they are seeing a small but growing number of young men who are deciding to have vasectomies when they are young, all but insuring that they will never be able to have children of their own.

why would you buy insurance for that?

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: michaelsslave
umm he can still get it reversed. and besides, its not like hes testies suddenly stopped producing our magical fluid, they will just be at capacity until their drained ( if ever)

well, reversal isn't 100% from what i remember....


"Before the development and refinement of microsurgical techniques, the results of vasectomy reversal were relatively poor. However, in recent years, with the development of better techniques and a larger pool of skilled microsurgeons to perform the reversal, excellent results can be obtained with a high chance of obtaining pregnancy. Vasectomy reversal is generally carried out in hospital using a general anesthetic. Success rates of reversal vary depending on the surgeon. The pregnancy rates after reversal on average are only about 50%. Costs for the surgery range from $5,000 to $20,000."
http://www.vasectomymedical.com/vasectomy-reversal.html

 

[SlowSpyder]

I had a vasectomy when I was 29. I have a one year old though. I never really wanted kids, but it just kind of happened. So, the wife and I decided one child is enough for us. No regrets at all so far.

 

[0roo0roo]

claims 99%
http://www.malereproduction.com/08_vasectomyrev.html

claims 1 in 10 fail
http://www.vasectomyinfo.com/

ah well, its all confusing..either way its not exactly surgery you should consider on a whim because its "reversible"

 

[GTaudiophile]

I see the big V as perhaps the best recourse a man has to practice bill control, especially if a condom is not his thing.

If a man wants it done so he can have a better, less stressful sex life with a person who is "clean" then once again, it is his right to do so.

It's too bad so few options exist for men to practice birth control and that the onus is on women, a stress that some do not want nor can handle.

Like BoberFett said, reproductive rights in this country are completely fucked.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Rill22

Originally posted by: Fritzo
People that think like this seem to be self centered to me, and it just rubs me the wrong way. It's like they're saying "My wants and needs are the most important, and I'm not going to share my life or change my lifestyle for any reason."

I don't understand how it's self-centered. Aren't his wants and needs the most important? Whose should he hold above his? It's his life.

I wouldn't have done it at 28, but he can do what he pleases, and /thumbsup for telling women straight out.

IMHO he is blowing a golden opportunity by being so forward. If I were in his shoes I would offer my services as a surrogate father, although with the exception that I would only be willing to help with natural conception.

 

[aldamon]

Originally posted by: Rill22

But is it fair to ask a smart, viable person who doesn't want kids to have them anyways, for the sake of the world?

No. I would like to get a vasectomy, but I am waiting to see how male birth control develops first. My wife has taken it for a long time. I figure it's my turn soon.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Rill22

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
This is what differentiates us going forward, do we become a declining country with brain-drain, because our smart people don't have kids, but our stupid people do?

You're right, it sucks that perhaps we're being populated with morons, who will, in all likelihood, continue the cycle. But is it fair to ask a smart, viable person who doesn't want kids to have them anyways, for the sake of the world?

Never said we had to force them. I just think that people really need to fully consider the ramifications of their decisions. Personally, I want 4 kids.

 

[Rill22]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Rill22

Originally posted by: Fritzo
People that think like this seem to be self centered to me, and it just rubs me the wrong way. It's like they're saying "My wants and needs are the most important, and I'm not going to share my life or change my lifestyle for any reason."

I don't understand how it's self-centered. Aren't his wants and needs the most important? Whose should he hold above his? It's his life.

I wouldn't have done it at 28, but he can do what he pleases, and /thumbsup for telling women straight out.

IMHO he is blowing a golden opportunity by being so forward. If I were in his shoes I would offer my services as a surrogate father, although with the exception that I would only be willing to help with natural conception.

I don't quite understand. The man who got his tubes tied wants to get married someday. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having his tubes tied? If he offered to be a surrogate father and help with natural conception, now he's impregnated a woman and ruined a future relationship with her because she'll be having kids.

Coming from a female perspective, I would appreciate knowing ahead of time.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Rill22

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
This is what differentiates us going forward, do we become a declining country with brain-drain, because our smart people don't have kids, but our stupid people do?

You're right, it sucks that perhaps we're being populated with morons, who will, in all likelihood, continue the cycle. But is it fair to ask a smart, viable person who doesn't want kids to have them anyways, for the sake of the world?

Yes, yes it is.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Rill22

Originally posted by: Fritzo
People that think like this seem to be self centered to me, and it just rubs me the wrong way. It's like they're saying "My wants and needs are the most important, and I'm not going to share my life or change my lifestyle for any reason."

I don't understand how it's self-centered. Aren't his wants and needs the most important? Whose should he hold above his? It's his life.

I wouldn't have done it at 28, but he can do what he pleases, and /thumbsup for telling women straight out.

IMHO he is blowing a golden opportunity by being so forward. If I were in his shoes I would offer my services as a surrogate father, although with the exception that I would only be willing to help with natural conception.

You want to volunteer to have 25% of your paycheck withheld for the next 18+ years? Are you insane?

 

[Vetterin]

Well, I got mine done when I was 31 but that was 27 years ago and my wife and I already had three kids which was enough for us. Haven't regretted it yet. FWIW, we're still married (36 years) and still doin the nasty!

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: SearchMaster
My sister-in-law had a hysterectomy at ~32 years old for the same reason. She's always known she didn't want to be a mother.

Women don't have a hysterectomy for the sake of birth control because they don't *want* kids. I don't know of a single doctor that would go through with it on an otherwise healthy 32 year old.

Well then you dont know *any* doctors. My ex was going to do this, but no doctors would do it until she was 30. Im sure any doctor would do this at 32. Oddly, about a year after we broke up she said that she does want kids.

 

[PokerGuy]

What a complete and utter moron. Why would you do something that could be permanent (not always, it can often be reversed, but you have no guarantees), when there is no reason to do so? There are other ways (non permanent) ways of making sure you don't have kids, and if you change your mind later (imagine that, you migth actually grow up!), you won't run into additional problems.

What an idiot.....