Value RAm vs. "Ocing" RAM

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rise

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Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Thermaltake makes poor PSU's. Don't even consider one.
yep
well, poor for anything above low-end anyway.
 

rise

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drew, i know you're familiar with them but if you decide on the dfi go to dfi.street and extreme, seriously. AT is my favorite forum but you can't beat having dfi reps as mods and the boards designer replying to threads (rarely, but nice).

plus you can PM the ocz, buffalo and mushkin reps there.

also, heres a look at the dfi nf4 bios so you know what you're getting to adjust--

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11397
 

Diogenes2

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Originally posted by: KoolDrew
This will be for a rig that will be overclocked. I have heard a lot of people say just get Value RAM and use a divider, but what exactly is a divider? Also from what I have seen the Corsair Value Select reaches around 210MHz (on average). Would this affect my CPU's overclock at all? I don;t exactly understand the divider business.

I could buy RAM that does ~265 @ 2-2-2-5 for a little over $100. Would this be a good choice? Also with that RAM to reach those clocks I would ahve to use 1quite a bit of voltage.

Could you guys help me out? I will most like be getting a AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and a DFI Ultra-D NF4.
You might want to browse through the

Quick and dirty A64 clocking guide

and the

Official 939 Memory Matrix

threads...

If you can't find what you need there, you might want to think Dell or Compaq....
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Serpentor
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Oh no, the GAK8NS Ultra 939?

Oh boy... quite the horror story.. What adds to my worries is that mine is a refurb, perhaps the previous owner went through your hell only to return it to newegg and now I'm stuck with the problems.

I had hoped my problems might be resolved with a new power supply, but you're saying you encountered instability and hard resets with an adequate power supply behind you?

I have a few days to RMA the board back, unfortunately I may have to make that choice before I determine whether it was a power supply issue or not. But from hearing your story, I'd rather not bank on the small chance a power supply will resolve all of my problems.

I mainly went NF3 Ultra/AGP to use with my current Gi4200 with an upgrade to the 6800nu (Leadtek, softmod to GT/Ultra). If I have to refurb the board, and Battlefield 2 is forcing out the Geforce4's, then I may take a look at PCIe mobo's.



Hey there sorry it took so long to respond about my board..


I bought a 480 Antec PSU becasue I thought it the problem was my 350 antec...same deal...that ram voltage drooping still happened. Before you take any drastic measures though if you can solder I would try the vdimm mod..it stops the droop in it's tracks from what I hear.

If your not a solder wiz maybe you have a friend who could show you how so you can do it next time yourself?
Good luck and keep us updated ok? I might just do the vdimm myself.
 

richardrds

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Originally posted by: Serpentor

Thx, for the advice, do you think the 420w PS in the X-Dreamer II would suffice? My brother has that case which I could try this weekend, I was also planning on picking one up myself if I had any powersupply problems (which I do). Before I go jumping into another headache, does anyone recommend against that case/PS?


I have an Aspire X-Infinity Gaming case that probably uses the same PS you are talking about in your brother's Aspire X-Dreamer case (It is a cheap Turbolink 420W, 12V@18A that came with the case). It works fine with my rig (has given me no reason to upgrade it) and i am OCing my 3000+ Winnie and my 6800NU!! :)
 

mindgam3

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Serpentor your going to rma a motherboard because it doesnt overclock to how you want it to? If it works at stock it shouldnt be rma'd be happy you can overclock it at all, this makes me sick!
 

Serpentor

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Originally posted by: mindgam3
Serpentor your going to rma a motherboard because it doesnt overclock to how you want it to? If it works at stock it shouldnt be rma'd be happy you can overclock it at all, this makes me sick!

Relax, it was RMA'd to begin with, so I was taking a chance, and I'll take the 15% hit. It'll just go back in the bin (if the new powersupply I'm getting doesn't do the trick). Read some of the posts above, this board droops on the vdimm, which is probably why I've always failed the RAM torture tests in Prime95, at every speed I've tried. The board in general is inherently flawed and requires a vdimm voltmod for stability.

The fact that last week I was running Prime torture 24/7 fine at 9x305x1:2, and this week it won't even boot XP at that speed, suggests that something is breaking down. That's actually great to know, so I can replace the weaker part(s) while everything is still under warranty.

Edit: Yes I understand it's wrongful to RMA if something runs fine at stock and won't OC the way I want it too, your point was not lost. I simply see OCing as a way of testing longetivity of the parts, if it's breaking down within a week of stress, then most likely it would fail at stock just after the warranty is up.