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pontifex

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Originally posted by: CrystalBay
^^^^^ What where did you see that ^^^^^^^ PS3 may be....

EB Games site for the PC version.
So when is it suppsoed to be released then?
 

math20

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: CrystalBay
^^^^^ What where did you see that ^^^^^^^ PS3 may be....

EB Games site for the PC version.
So when is it suppsoed to be released then?

November '07, I think it has been confirmed quite a few times.
 

n7

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This game is ridiculously CPU-bound.

I mean ridiculously.

Going from my C2D @ 3.375+ GHz + 8800 GTX to Opteron 165 @ 1.8 GHz + 8800 GTX = huge difference.

I need to get a quad core...
 

KeithTalent

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Ok, the game looks decent, but wow, it is so far from fun. I am pretty sure I actually had fun playing UT2K4, but this...yeah, not at all.

Uninstalled and good riddance. :thumbsdown:

KT
 

T2k

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DM is an utterly retarded runaround, can't imagine anyone enjoying it (idiots perhaps), TDM is only slightly better, vCTF is just the old boring CTF except it's got a 'v' in its name despite vehicles are STILL BANNED when you're carrying the flag (what an idiotic thing!) - where is my beloved ONS???

Epic, this is seriously shitty lineup. ONS made UT2k3 very popular, nothing else - WTF do you want with this utter crap DM/TDM beta client???
 

Markbnj

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It's definitely fun. Played for a few hours last night, mostly CTF. I'm running a 7600GT and X2 4400+ and wasn't able to get decent frame rates above 1280 x 1024. Not sure I really like the art direction that much, but it's a demo with just a couple maps. It seems a little grayish and lacking in life to me in its current form. The weapons are great, and gameplay seems every bit as fun as CTF always was. I wish they didn't show the flag position on the map, but maybe server admins can set that. I'll definitely be buying it.
 

CrackRabbit

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Took me 5 min to get back into the swing of things and start mowing people down in a Manta.
The lack of Onslaught does irk me but I will probably buy it and have fun no matter what.
BTW, team deathmatch with vehicles rocks! ROAD RAGE!
 

n7

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http://www.tweakguides.com/UT3_1.html

I hate bloom, so i've basically turned it all off.

Game looks very different w/o it.

I don't know what to do to get decent fps on ShangriLa though...i can run @ 640x480, & it still drops to low fps in places.

I'm hearing this might be a Vista issue...anyone have Vista & XP installed who can test fps on both platforms?
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Took me 5 min to get back into the swing of things and start mowing people down in a Manta.
The lack of Onslaught does irk me but I will probably buy it and have fun no matter what.
BTW, team deathmatch with vehicles rocks! ROAD RAGE!

mantas are such bitches to kill. ugh.
 

John P

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Just downloaded and loaded it on 3 computers. The kids and I love it and you gotta love the AI bots for LAN play.

For those with older machines hesitating to try it - it ran fine at 1024 x 768 with details cranked down a bit on my Athlon XP 2800+, 1GB RAM, and Geforce 6800.
 

SunnyD

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55FPS on an 8800GTS + X2-3800 @ 1920x1200 with everything cranked up. I'm happy. I'd venture a guess that 4GB RAM on Vista 64-bit makes a bit of a difference.
 

cmdrdredd

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Dec 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Teetu
this is running absolutley horribly on my system, and I can't really figure out why (specs below). I'm only running it at 1280X1024 with the detail settings at 4/5 and hovering around the 40 fps mark.

Call of Duty 4 was running a hell of a lot better than this.

40fps is where you should be running with your system. that is NOT horrible
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: n7
http://www.tweakguides.com/UT3_1.html

I hate bloom, so i've basically turned it all off.

Game looks very different w/o it.

I don't know what to do to get decent fps on ShangriLa though...i can run @ 640x480, & it still drops to low fps in places.

I'm hearing this might be a Vista issue...anyone have Vista & XP installed who can test fps on both platforms?

So do you turn off just bloom and quality bloom or do you also turn off depth of field and motion blur?
 
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Originally posted by: T2k
DM is an utterly retarded runaround, can't imagine anyone enjoying it (idiots perhaps), TDM is only slightly better, vCTF is just the old boring CTF except it's got a 'v' in its name despite vehicles are STILL BANNED when you're carrying the flag (what an idiotic thing!) - where is my beloved ONS???

Epic, this is seriously shitty lineup. ONS made UT2k3 very popular, nothing else - WTF do you want with this utter crap DM/TDM beta client???

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Edited for emphasis:

Guys, ONSLAUGHT will be in the final game!!! Remember, this is just a BETA demo. Onslaught will be in the game in the form of "Warfare" but supposedly mappers are going to be able to use the Warfare mode to make purely Onslaught maps.
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I love the feel and the game play of the Deathmatch, but then again I'm used to UT99 movement and game play. What were you expecting from Deathmatch?

Onslaught will still be in the game--albeit modified as "Warfare". It might be possible for mappers to make pure ONS maps and now you'll get to use the hoverboard.

Also, FYI...Unreal Tournament did NOT start with UT 2003/2004. The original game was UT '99 (aka plain "UT" or "UT-GOTY") which had its roots with the single player game Unreal. Onslaught is NOT what made the UT series! The primary UT game types were Capture the Flag (smash hit in UT99) and Deathmatch.

Note that CTF proved to be a huge failure in UT 2003/2004 as evidenced by all of the empty servers. There's a reason for that--the UT 2003/2004 floaty-dodgy movement turned the game into a game of hitscan only which most players didn't find very fun. (The vehicles in ONS decreases the importance of hitscan, which is why people are playing it instead of CTF.)

I suspect that Epic was aware of all this when they designed the UT3 game play. They thus decided to go with the proven-successful UT99 movement.

Anyway, I hope you'll give UT3 a chance. It WILL have an Onslaught game and the no-vehicles CTF is going to be a ton of fun--much much more fun than the CTF game you didn't like in UT 2004.
 

Skacer

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

At the Epic forums someone posted links to an interesting interview with a Pro-UT player (Stryfe) discussing the outlook for the pro PC-gaming scene (think Fatality level) and UT3. Basically, the PC gaming scene is being massacred by consoles.

http://one.revver.com/watch/386604
http://one.revver.com/watch/386626

I thought his take on the status of PC gaming, at least UT3's status, was more or less right on. He also offered a devastating critique of the console game experience, explaining how the skill curve for console FPS's is much less than for FPS on the PC.

He did have an interesting point -- UT3 could be the last hurrah for PC FPS online multiplayer gaming because in a couple years, there might not even be a PC gaming scene, at least not in the U.S. Sadly, I think he might be right--it's all going to be about console gaming. UT3 is being advertised, not as the follow-up to the wildly popular Unreal Tournament games, but rather as a game from the studio that brought you Gears of War.

Hold on, let me fire up my printer so I can print that out and wipe my ass with it. Anyone who claims to think they know what the "PC FPS last hurrah" will be deserves similar treatment.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
I love the feel and the game play of the Deathmatch, but then again I'm used to UT99 movement and game play. What were you expecting from Deathmatch?

Perhaps a smaller max # of players per game. Longer spawns (players/weapons/ammo), but more (so it can't be camped) perhaps to even things out. Right now, you can't walk around for 5 seconds without engaging in combat and after you do kill someone, 2 people are right behind you. I've gotten kills just throwing flak around blindly. Come on now...

It's intense, but it's also frustrating because it's not always about skill with it like this.
 

Beev

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A friend of mine and myself STILL can't connect to 99% of the games.
 

pontifex

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Dec 5, 2000
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one thing i'm not too sold on is vehicle CTF, although I think I read that servers can disable vehicles.

the CTF map they have in the demo is just too small and too cluttered with stuff for vehicles to really be much use. vehicles also don't seem to last that long either.
 

Lamont Burns

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vCTF is boring after 20 mins, and imo that map is terrible. OT needs to be tweaked, as defending the flag on Suspense is cake. OT could run an hour or more if you were so inclined. Assuming though admins could tweak an OT time cap at least.

expecting warfare to at least have more depth.

so far tho i can bust out my OP noob canon stinger or bust around on my manta until people start using impact hammers. so far it's decent i guess.
 

ryan256

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Jul 22, 2005
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Spent all weekend playing this. VERY fun. The graphics are AMAZING. I like how the vehicle models now start reflecting their damage so you can tell when that raptor is just a few shock bolts away from dead. Also I'm in love with the hoverboard. No more having to spend alot of time waiting for a vehicle to spawn or running to the next hot spot. And if you can lash yourself to a manta you can get across the map REAL fast.
I'm not sure of my framerate, probably around 50 or so, but its not a problem for my system at 1280x1024 with graphics maxed:
E6600
ATI X1900 XTX
2GB DDR2 800
Creative Audigy ZS 2
 

dguy6789

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Anyone else with a 7900 series card getting some minor artifacts in this game?

My card is an evga oc version. Clocks are 580/1580 stock. I still get the artifacts if I reduce the clocks to 7900GT clocks of 450/1320.
 

Vidda

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Warfare maps can be made either all Onslaught or all Assault, or a mixture of the two...
 

n7

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Jan 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: n7
http://www.tweakguides.com/UT3_1.html

I hate bloom, so i've basically turned it all off.

Game looks very different w/o it.

I don't know what to do to get decent fps on ShangriLa though...i can run @ 640x480, & it still drops to low fps in places.

I'm hearing this might be a Vista issue...anyone have Vista & XP installed who can test fps on both platforms?

So do you turn off just bloom and quality bloom or do you also turn off depth of field and motion blur?

IIRC, Depth of Field basically seems to turn off everything right now.

I've given up tweaking via the .ini for now though, since if i touch anything in the game's settings, it reverts it all.

TBH, i'm pretty annoyed with a number of things in this beta, but i'll give them a chance to improve things for the retail release before spewing fury around.

I suspect no matter what happens though, this won't replace UT2k4 as the best fps i've ever played though...
 

MmmSkyscraper

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I gave the demo another go yesterday and played some team DM. That was more interesting although I got annoyed with the bots asking for help but giving no clue as to where they were.

Everything works for me (bar the UK keyboard goof) except I can't connect to an online game. I ask it to find a match for any game type, it says it's searching for half a second, then "Connecting..." forever. My router lights are going apeshit but nothing happens :confused: No software firewalls, no Windows firewall but no joy. Do I need to port forward?

I tried looking on the official forums but the main problem there is either splash screen crashes, or people arguing with each other about UT v3432423 being better than v23413213.