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USA: 60% think that "god created earth" is science
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hmmm.....I am a chinese, and I was tough that there are many gods and human are created by them using clay.....now that must be the truth right??? What about what about other religions...there must be other explanation on how we human are created....why don't we believe those as well??
What make Christianity so special that it must be right in explaining human creation???
At lease evolution is universally believed by scientist around the world.
What make Christianity so special that it must be right in explaining human creation???
At lease evolution is universally believed by scientist around the world.
Whitedog, you really are dumb.
"OK, I don't know about anyone else, but I've never blown anything up and ended up with anything "round".. hehe, it's always been really messy."
the physics involved in the big bang are beyond the comprehension of 99.99999% of the population and you are one of them. The big bang theory does not explain what there was before it. It only explains what happened after the first 1/1 000 000 000 of a second after it. Indeed, there is constantly more progress made in the field of astronomy and physics. In time, science will answer it.
"Sorry, no, wrong. Religion doesn't stop at step 1. "People" stop at step one. Religion (or God for a better word) goes WAY Beyond that man... "
Yes religion DOES stop at #1. It says god created the earth (ie a hypothesis) however it doesn not seek any proofs of it. It does not collect data or test it. You dont see the pope seeking evidence of people turning into salt (as is told in one bible verse, i forgot which one).
Even now, as you so stubbornly continue to insist that you are right, you cannot answer simple questions.
Over the last 60 years bacteria have EVOLVED to become resistant to many types of antibiotics. This is a FACT. It has been DOCUMENTED. If the theory of evolution is BS, then why are organisms continually evolving, even before our eyes? Will answer me or simply choose to tell me I am wrong?
and finaly, please tell me, if a hindu or buddist (and there are enough of them combined to outnumber christians) does not belive in the christian god, then what will happen to that person? the bible clearly states that there is only one god and that he created everything.
Also, I find it humourous and almost hypocritical that you should constantly diss science and those who support it, while enjoying all that science brought to you in your life. Did god created the net and computers, or was it science?
"OK, I don't know about anyone else, but I've never blown anything up and ended up with anything "round".. hehe, it's always been really messy."
the physics involved in the big bang are beyond the comprehension of 99.99999% of the population and you are one of them. The big bang theory does not explain what there was before it. It only explains what happened after the first 1/1 000 000 000 of a second after it. Indeed, there is constantly more progress made in the field of astronomy and physics. In time, science will answer it.
"Sorry, no, wrong. Religion doesn't stop at step 1. "People" stop at step one. Religion (or God for a better word) goes WAY Beyond that man... "
Yes religion DOES stop at #1. It says god created the earth (ie a hypothesis) however it doesn not seek any proofs of it. It does not collect data or test it. You dont see the pope seeking evidence of people turning into salt (as is told in one bible verse, i forgot which one).
Even now, as you so stubbornly continue to insist that you are right, you cannot answer simple questions.
Over the last 60 years bacteria have EVOLVED to become resistant to many types of antibiotics. This is a FACT. It has been DOCUMENTED. If the theory of evolution is BS, then why are organisms continually evolving, even before our eyes? Will answer me or simply choose to tell me I am wrong?
and finaly, please tell me, if a hindu or buddist (and there are enough of them combined to outnumber christians) does not belive in the christian god, then what will happen to that person? the bible clearly states that there is only one god and that he created everything.
Also, I find it humourous and almost hypocritical that you should constantly diss science and those who support it, while enjoying all that science brought to you in your life. Did god created the net and computers, or was it science?
(Disclaimer: I am responding to a lot earlier update of the page, I just got back to it, I'll probably respond to newer stuff as well.)
One word: "sheep" We all follow what we were brought up to believe in, (brought up includes ALL our influences.) The more intelligent/insightful/open-minded people reach an age where they quantitatively evaluate (hehe, big words are fun) their blind beliefs. This happens to BOTH 'creationists' and 'evolutionists.' To many evolutionists, it seems like there are more close minded creationists because the majority (I don't think 95%) of families bring up their kids on (at least the pretext of) Christian beliefs. That mixed with probably about 70-80% of people-in-general being closed minded on this topic leads to nothing good.
In my opinion, if you don't know everything there is to know about something (which is quite impossible) don't state it as fact! Be open to others' arguements and if you can accurately and objectively discount some of it, make sure the other person understands where you are coming from and isn't offended. hehe, make love not war.
enough for now, see what you people have added since 4pm
One word: "sheep" We all follow what we were brought up to believe in, (brought up includes ALL our influences.) The more intelligent/insightful/open-minded people reach an age where they quantitatively evaluate (hehe, big words are fun) their blind beliefs. This happens to BOTH 'creationists' and 'evolutionists.' To many evolutionists, it seems like there are more close minded creationists because the majority (I don't think 95%) of families bring up their kids on (at least the pretext of) Christian beliefs. That mixed with probably about 70-80% of people-in-general being closed minded on this topic leads to nothing good.
In my opinion, if you don't know everything there is to know about something (which is quite impossible) don't state it as fact! Be open to others' arguements and if you can accurately and objectively discount some of it, make sure the other person understands where you are coming from and isn't offended. hehe, make love not war.
enough for now, see what you people have added since 4pm
In time, science will answer it.
Science can't answer the past. Science is based on observation and we can't observe the past. However, we can speculate based on evidence science provides.
It says god created the earth (ie a hypothesis) however it doesn not seek any proofs of it. It does not collect data or test it.
I know many religious people who seek proof of the Bible's accuracy, but the creationism theory in itself does not allow there to exist any evidence to support it obviously. It's clean cut with rounded corners so you can't prove it's wrong, but that doesn't mean it's true. 😉
Over the last 60 years bacteria have EVOLVED to become resistant to many types of antibiotics. This is a FACT. It has been DOCUMENTED.
There is no evidence that this is true. You can't say things like this without it being backed up. Have you thought (and many scientists agree with this) that the resistent bacteria already existed and once the dominant bacteria was killed off the resistent bacteria thrived and multiplied to be discovered? There's countless new bacteria strains we've never encountered.
Don't get me wrong... I currently agree with the evolution theory. Your argument was just flawed.
Science can't answer the past. Science is based on observation and we can't observe the past. However, we can speculate based on evidence science provides.
It says god created the earth (ie a hypothesis) however it doesn not seek any proofs of it. It does not collect data or test it.
I know many religious people who seek proof of the Bible's accuracy, but the creationism theory in itself does not allow there to exist any evidence to support it obviously. It's clean cut with rounded corners so you can't prove it's wrong, but that doesn't mean it's true. 😉
Over the last 60 years bacteria have EVOLVED to become resistant to many types of antibiotics. This is a FACT. It has been DOCUMENTED.
There is no evidence that this is true. You can't say things like this without it being backed up. Have you thought (and many scientists agree with this) that the resistent bacteria already existed and once the dominant bacteria was killed off the resistent bacteria thrived and multiplied to be discovered? There's countless new bacteria strains we've never encountered.
Don't get me wrong... I currently agree with the evolution theory. Your argument was just flawed.
<... the christian theory has not been around the longest, despite being the most popular...>
Religions of the World
HEHEHE. Divorce rates for Atheists are lower than for Christians
😀 😀 😀
Religions of the World
HEHEHE. Divorce rates for Atheists are lower than for Christians
😀 😀 😀
NaughtyusMaximus
Diamond Member
NaughtyusMaximus
Diamond Member
<<There is no evidence that this is true. You can't say things like this without it being backed up. Have you thought (and many scientists agree with this) that the resistent bacteria already existed and once the dominant bacteria was killed off the resistent bacteria thrived and multiplied to be discovered? There's countless new bacteria strains we've never encountered.>>
That IS evolution.
That IS evolution.
dennilfloss
Past Lifer 1957-2014 In Memoriam
Chanwang,
You should know enough comparative vertebrate anatomy to realize that he meant postanal tail, a feature of all craniates (a better term than vertebrates since hagfishes do not have real ossified vertebrae, but they do have a skull).
Evolution= unilinear change of lifeforms through time. That is the stratigraphic definition and is a fact. 150 years of biostratigraphy have proven it. The underlying cause is irrelevant.
As for me, being a theistic evolutionist, I see it as God's tool. God set the initial conditions and nature does the rest as intended.
Bad to The Bone (George Thorogood and the Destroyers)
You should know enough comparative vertebrate anatomy to realize that he meant postanal tail, a feature of all craniates (a better term than vertebrates since hagfishes do not have real ossified vertebrae, but they do have a skull).
Evolution= unilinear change of lifeforms through time. That is the stratigraphic definition and is a fact. 150 years of biostratigraphy have proven it. The underlying cause is irrelevant.
As for me, being a theistic evolutionist, I see it as God's tool. God set the initial conditions and nature does the rest as intended.
Bad to The Bone (George Thorogood and the Destroyers)
NaughtyusMaximus
Diamond Member
True.
Oops.
Oops.
exactly, what napalm said 🙂
You should know enough comparative vertebrate anatomy to realize that he meant postanal tail, a feature of all craniates (a better term than vertebrates since hagfishes do not have real ossified vertebrae, but they do have a skull).
Sorry, didn't he post 'postnatal tail'? If he didn't I apologize.
Um.. I've heard an argument against the 'tail' of a fetus as being proof of us evolving, but I can't quite remember what it was... doh! 😉 I guess I can't argue that point.
You should know enough comparative vertebrate anatomy to realize that he meant postanal tail, a feature of all craniates (a better term than vertebrates since hagfishes do not have real ossified vertebrae, but they do have a skull).
Sorry, didn't he post 'postnatal tail'? If he didn't I apologize.
Um.. I've heard an argument against the 'tail' of a fetus as being proof of us evolving, but I can't quite remember what it was... doh! 😉 I guess I can't argue that point.
apoppin
Lifer
Again, we go 'round and 'round.
Evolution (from the dictionary):
<<A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form.>>
That process - although predicted by the evolutionary theory has never been observed. Therefore it is NOT science - just conjecture.
And when we get to the origins of life, UG, your explanations sound like science-fiction. Are the space-aliens still throwing out their garbage to produce terresterial life? How does the idea of an intellegent creator sound more far-fetched than that?
Evolution (from the dictionary):
<<A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form.>>
That process - although predicted by the evolutionary theory has never been observed. Therefore it is NOT science - just conjecture.
And when we get to the origins of life, UG, your explanations sound like science-fiction. Are the space-aliens still throwing out their garbage to produce terresterial life? How does the idea of an intellegent creator sound more far-fetched than that?
Hulk
Diamond Member
<<Religion, although beautiful and very helpful to many is not science. It stops after step number 1. >>
Sorry, no, wrong. Religion doesn't stop at step 1. "People" stop at step one. Religion (or God for a better word) goes WAY Beyond that man...
White Dog -
I'm only saying that a literal interpretation of the bible does not adhere to the scientific method past step 1. There is no data collection, predicting and testing of theory.
I'm not saying that belief in Religion, God, or some Supreme Power hasn't taken all of our "science" into account in His Grand Design. Only that the Bibilical interpretation is not scientific. The Creator's design most certainly is. We are only just beginning to unravel it.
Sorry, no, wrong. Religion doesn't stop at step 1. "People" stop at step one. Religion (or God for a better word) goes WAY Beyond that man...
White Dog -
I'm only saying that a literal interpretation of the bible does not adhere to the scientific method past step 1. There is no data collection, predicting and testing of theory.
I'm not saying that belief in Religion, God, or some Supreme Power hasn't taken all of our "science" into account in His Grand Design. Only that the Bibilical interpretation is not scientific. The Creator's design most certainly is. We are only just beginning to unravel it.
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