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raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
You are a troll. You don't give anyone proof of anything. You still haven't given me proof that the Palestinian cops are corrupt. Your defense was "I don't want to debate the M.E now". LOL.

You don't wish death to Muslims? You just said it yourself that you wish the U.S would drop 500 pound bombs in the middle of Iraq where there are civilians and you compare it to Afghanistan where they drop them on caves in the mountains.

Either you lack common sense which it is very clear that you do or you hate Muslims. I would have to say all of the above because you want the U.S to drop 500 pound bombs right in the middle of the cities.

Either you grow up and learn to debate like a educated person, or dont respond to my posts. Please this is too much. I can debate others without any hostility, but you always bring it down to personal attacks.

So by wanting to drop 500 lbs bombs on terrorists makes me a muslim hater? In the middle of the cities?? oh wow, you just sunk to a new low.

Please grow up.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
You are a troll. You don't give anyone proof of anything. You still haven't given me proof that the Palestinian cops are corrupt. Your defense was "I don't want to debate the M.E now". LOL.

You don't wish death to Muslims? You just said it yourself that you wish the U.S would drop 500 pound bombs in the middle of Iraq where there are civilians and you compare it to Afghanistan where they drop them on caves in the mountains.

Either you lack common sense which it is very clear that you do or you hate Muslims. I would have to say all of the above because you want the U.S to drop 500 pound bombs right in the middle of the cities.

Either you grow up and learn to debate like a educated person, or dont respond to my posts. Please this is too much. I can debate others without any hostility, but you always bring it down to personal attacks.

So by wanting to drop 500 lbs bombs on terrorists makes me a muslim hater? In the middle of the cities?? oh wow, you just sunk to a new low.

Please grow up.

Like I said you clearly lack common sense and have no idea what you are ever talking about. You cannot defend yourself with me in every single thread because your facts are your opinions.

Where would you like them to drop the 500 pounds then? 5 miles away from them in the middle of the desert where the terrorist aren't hiding so they can get scared and run off?

How did you ever graduate high school? COMMON SENSE.

Just reminding you that you haven't given nobody your proof about the Palestinian cops being "corrupt". There are other threads where people have called on you to respond, but you've ignored them.
 

Rainsford

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: raildogg
Remember, loose lips sink ships. Stop aiding the enemy.
The question is: how do you determine who the enemy is?
That would be the people in the videos saying "Death to America".

Seriously, if you don't know who the enemy is, you need medical attention. Knowing who your enemy is is a basic human feeling.

So you can tell the difference between the average Joe on the street in Iraq and the insurgents and dress exactly like him? Oh, I forgot, you the kind of person that says kill them all in the name of US interests and corporate profits. :roll:

Here's an analogy. When a sports team wins a championship and the people peacefully celebrate in the streets, that's fine. But when it starts to get out of hand (fires, assaulting police, etc.), the police spray tear-gas to disperse everyone. The smart people know to get the hell out of there at the first sign of trouble to avoid the police. The dumb people stick around until it is too late and they also get grouped in with the actual violent people. Do you every hear any court cases against police officers that say they must specifically pick-and-choose who's being violent and who's in the wrong place at the wrong time? No. It's called "crowd management" and is understood that if you are in the crowd, you are taking that chance.

The same thing applies for the Iraqi citizens. If you see the Americans coming, get the hell out of the streets. And for the American troops, if you see hostile Iraqis, kill every one of the visible Iraqis. It's called war.

I agree its war, but lets not get out of hand and spur hate further for America. We should try to avoid innocent deaths, but not at the cost of American soldiers. You may have a point though, in the heat of a battle its hard to determine the scum from the innocent civilians.

But again, far too many innocent civilians have died and more should not die. Its the sad fact of war, however.
Yes, it's sad, but what other choice do our boys in the field have? They are under attack. The bullets and RPGs are coming from a crowd of people. Do they just sit there and get blown to pieces or get on the .50 and mow down the entire crowd? For the individuals soldiers in the field, it's kill or be killed. They are either going to get killed that minute, or kill those who are trying to kill them. Either way, someone is going to get killed that moment.

I don't like seeing the civilians killed, but if it's a choice between our soldiers and insurgents+civilians, then it's pretty clear - do whatever is necessary to kil the insurgents.

Totally correct. If innocent civilians do get killed, its the fault of the terrorists who hide among them.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ, and you guys wonder why terrorists have no problems recruiting young men to fight for them. It's like "kill them all and let God sort them out" all over again. If we're ready to lump them all together, that's how they'll act.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: raildogg
Remember, loose lips sink ships. Stop aiding the enemy.
The question is: how do you determine who the enemy is?
That would be the people in the videos saying "Death to America".

Seriously, if you don't know who the enemy is, you need medical attention. Knowing who your enemy is is a basic human feeling.

So you can tell the difference between the average Joe on the street in Iraq and the insurgents and dress exactly like him? Oh, I forgot, you the kind of person that says kill them all in the name of US interests and corporate profits. :roll:

Here's an analogy. When a sports team wins a championship and the people peacefully celebrate in the streets, that's fine. But when it starts to get out of hand (fires, assaulting police, etc.), the police spray tear-gas to disperse everyone. The smart people know to get the hell out of there at the first sign of trouble to avoid the police. The dumb people stick around until it is too late and they also get grouped in with the actual violent people. Do you every hear any court cases against police officers that say they must specifically pick-and-choose who's being violent and who's in the wrong place at the wrong time? No. It's called "crowd management" and is understood that if you are in the crowd, you are taking that chance.

The same thing applies for the Iraqi citizens. If you see the Americans coming, get the hell out of the streets. And for the American troops, if you see hostile Iraqis, kill every one of the visible Iraqis. It's called war.

I agree its war, but lets not get out of hand and spur hate further for America. We should try to avoid innocent deaths, but not at the cost of American soldiers. You may have a point though, in the heat of a battle its hard to determine the scum from the innocent civilians.

But again, far too many innocent civilians have died and more should not die. Its the sad fact of war, however.
Yes, it's sad, but what other choice do our boys in the field have? They are under attack. The bullets and RPGs are coming from a crowd of people. Do they just sit there and get blown to pieces or get on the .50 and mow down the entire crowd? For the individuals soldiers in the field, it's kill or be killed. They are either going to get killed that minute, or kill those who are trying to kill them. Either way, someone is going to get killed that moment.

I don't like seeing the civilians killed, but if it's a choice between our soldiers and insurgents+civilians, then it's pretty clear - do whatever is necessary to kil the insurgents.

Totally correct. If innocent civilians do get killed, its the fault of the terrorists who hide among them.

Another quote to add to the many heartless and childish things you've said. Thanks.

 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
You are a troll. You don't give anyone proof of anything. You still haven't given me proof that the Palestinian cops are corrupt. Your defense was "I don't want to debate the M.E now". LOL.

You don't wish death to Muslims? You just said it yourself that you wish the U.S would drop 500 pound bombs in the middle of Iraq where there are civilians and you compare it to Afghanistan where they drop them on caves in the mountains.

Either you lack common sense which it is very clear that you do or you hate Muslims. I would have to say all of the above because you want the U.S to drop 500 pound bombs right in the middle of the cities.

Either you grow up and learn to debate like a educated person, or dont respond to my posts. Please this is too much. I can debate others without any hostility, but you always bring it down to personal attacks.

So by wanting to drop 500 lbs bombs on terrorists makes me a muslim hater? In the middle of the cities?? oh wow, you just sunk to a new low.

Please grow up.

Like I said you clearly lack common sense and have no idea what you are ever talking about. You cannot defend yourself with me in every single thread because your facts are your opinions.

Where would you like them to drop the 500 pounds then? 5 miles away from them in the middle of the desert where the terrorist aren't hiding so they can get scared and run off?

How did you ever graduate high school? COMMON SENSE.

Just reminding you that you haven't given nobody your proof about the Palestinian cops being "corrupt". There are other threads where people have called on you to respond, but you've ignored them.

Hey listen, go away. Like I said before if your going to do personal attacks then dont even respond to my posts. If you want to grow up and debate like a man, then I would be glad to respond. Until that happens ...

 

HalosPuma

Banned
Jul 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: raildogg
Remember, loose lips sink ships. Stop aiding the enemy.
The question is: how do you determine who the enemy is?
That would be the people in the videos saying "Death to America".

Seriously, if you don't know who the enemy is, you need medical attention. Knowing who your enemy is is a basic human feeling.

So you can tell the difference between the average Joe on the street in Iraq and the insurgents and dress exactly like him? Oh, I forgot, you the kind of person that says kill them all in the name of US interests and corporate profits. :roll:

Here's an analogy. When a sports team wins a championship and the people peacefully celebrate in the streets, that's fine. But when it starts to get out of hand (fires, assaulting police, etc.), the police spray tear-gas to disperse everyone. The smart people know to get the hell out of there at the first sign of trouble to avoid the police. The dumb people stick around until it is too late and they also get grouped in with the actual violent people. Do you every hear any court cases against police officers that say they must specifically pick-and-choose who's being violent and who's in the wrong place at the wrong time? No. It's called "crowd management" and is understood that if you are in the crowd, you are taking that chance.

The same thing applies for the Iraqi citizens. If you see the Americans coming, get the hell out of the streets. And for the American troops, if you see hostile Iraqis, kill every one of the visible Iraqis. It's called war.

I agree its war, but lets not get out of hand and spur hate further for America. We should try to avoid innocent deaths, but not at the cost of American soldiers. You may have a point though, in the heat of a battle its hard to determine the scum from the innocent civilians.

But again, far too many innocent civilians have died and more should not die. Its the sad fact of war, however.
Yes, it's sad, but what other choice do our boys in the field have? They are under attack. The bullets and RPGs are coming from a crowd of people. Do they just sit there and get blown to pieces or get on the .50 and mow down the entire crowd? For the individuals soldiers in the field, it's kill or be killed. They are either going to get killed that minute, or kill those who are trying to kill them. Either way, someone is going to get killed that moment.

I don't like seeing the civilians killed, but if it's a choice between our soldiers and insurgents+civilians, then it's pretty clear - do whatever is necessary to kil the insurgents.

Totally correct. If innocent civilians do get killed, its the fault of the terrorists who hide among them.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ, and you guys wonder why terrorists have no problems recruiting young men to fight for them. It's like "kill them all and let God sort them out" all over again. If we're ready to lump them all together, that's how they'll act.

I guess you never heard of World War II then? We nuked two Japanese cities and killed many, many civilians. But it was necessary to end the war.
 

Rainsford

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
US War Crime?

:thumbsdown:

It truly is disgusting to see what parts of our nation has degraded into. At every opportunity, unpatriotic Americans try to bash and destroy America. We are at war. I consider these acts of condemning our military an act of sedition and treason. Punishment for this horrific offense against our nation can include death.

Agreed. We are a nation at war.

If these people lived during WW2 in America, they would have been tried for treason.

Remember, loose lips sink ships. Stop aiding the enemy.

Action movie faux patriotism is not a substitute for the real thing. You two make me fvcking sick.

Honestly, I think people like you two are just as much of a threat to freedom and democracy as the terrorists. Supporting the war is one thing, but advocating putting people to death for disagreeing with you? Holy sh!t, what is wrong with you two?
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
You are a troll. You don't give anyone proof of anything. You still haven't given me proof that the Palestinian cops are corrupt. Your defense was "I don't want to debate the M.E now". LOL.

You don't wish death to Muslims? You just said it yourself that you wish the U.S would drop 500 pound bombs in the middle of Iraq where there are civilians and you compare it to Afghanistan where they drop them on caves in the mountains.

Either you lack common sense which it is very clear that you do or you hate Muslims. I would have to say all of the above because you want the U.S to drop 500 pound bombs right in the middle of the cities.

Either you grow up and learn to debate like a educated person, or dont respond to my posts. Please this is too much. I can debate others without any hostility, but you always bring it down to personal attacks.

So by wanting to drop 500 lbs bombs on terrorists makes me a muslim hater? In the middle of the cities?? oh wow, you just sunk to a new low.

Please grow up.

Like I said you clearly lack common sense and have no idea what you are ever talking about. You cannot defend yourself with me in every single thread because your facts are your opinions.

Where would you like them to drop the 500 pounds then? 5 miles away from them in the middle of the desert where the terrorist aren't hiding so they can get scared and run off?

How did you ever graduate high school? COMMON SENSE.

Just reminding you that you haven't given nobody your proof about the Palestinian cops being "corrupt". There are other threads where people have called on you to respond, but you've ignored them.

Hey listen, go away. Like I said before if your going to do personal attacks then dont even respond to my posts. If you want to grow up and debate like a man, then I would be glad to respond. Until that happens ...

You haven't even answered my question, because you cannot. As a result of that your defense is "go away".
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
US War Crime?

:thumbsdown:

It truly is disgusting to see what parts of our nation has degraded into. At every opportunity, unpatriotic Americans try to bash and destroy America. We are at war. I consider these acts of condemning our military an act of sedition and treason. Punishment for this horrific offense against our nation can include death.

Agreed. We are a nation at war.

If these people lived during WW2 in America, they would have been tried for treason.

Remember, loose lips sink ships. Stop aiding the enemy.

Action movie faux patriotism is not a substitute for the real thing. You two make me fvcking sick.

Honestly, I think people like you two are just as much of a threat to freedom and democracy as the terrorists. Supporting the war is one thing, but advocating putting people to death for disagreeing with you? Holy sh!t, what is wrong with you two?

Education Education Education Education
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
US War Crime?

:thumbsdown:

It truly is disgusting to see what parts of our nation has degraded into. At every opportunity, unpatriotic Americans try to bash and destroy America. We are at war. I consider these acts of condemning our military an act of sedition and treason. Punishment for this horrific offense against our nation can include death.

Agreed. We are a nation at war.

If these people lived during WW2 in America, they would have been tried for treason.

Remember, loose lips sink ships. Stop aiding the enemy.

Action movie faux patriotism is not a substitute for the real thing. You two make me fvcking sick.

Honestly, I think people like you two are just as much of a threat to freedom and democracy as the terrorists. Supporting the war is one thing, but advocating putting people to death for disagreeing with you? Holy sh!t, what is wrong with you two?

Ha, have I ever posted to put people to death for being against me or the war? No way. During WW2, in America you had much less freedom of speech when it came to criticizing the USA and its activies, and people were jailed for it. It was wrong. Be glad we are not putting people into concentration camps like we did during WW2.
 

Rainsford

Lifer
Apr 25, 2001
17,515
0
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Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: raildogg
Remember, loose lips sink ships. Stop aiding the enemy.
The question is: how do you determine who the enemy is?
That would be the people in the videos saying "Death to America".

Seriously, if you don't know who the enemy is, you need medical attention. Knowing who your enemy is is a basic human feeling.

So you can tell the difference between the average Joe on the street in Iraq and the insurgents and dress exactly like him? Oh, I forgot, you the kind of person that says kill them all in the name of US interests and corporate profits. :roll:

Here's an analogy. When a sports team wins a championship and the people peacefully celebrate in the streets, that's fine. But when it starts to get out of hand (fires, assaulting police, etc.), the police spray tear-gas to disperse everyone. The smart people know to get the hell out of there at the first sign of trouble to avoid the police. The dumb people stick around until it is too late and they also get grouped in with the actual violent people. Do you every hear any court cases against police officers that say they must specifically pick-and-choose who's being violent and who's in the wrong place at the wrong time? No. It's called "crowd management" and is understood that if you are in the crowd, you are taking that chance.

The same thing applies for the Iraqi citizens. If you see the Americans coming, get the hell out of the streets. And for the American troops, if you see hostile Iraqis, kill every one of the visible Iraqis. It's called war.

I agree its war, but lets not get out of hand and spur hate further for America. We should try to avoid innocent deaths, but not at the cost of American soldiers. You may have a point though, in the heat of a battle its hard to determine the scum from the innocent civilians.

But again, far too many innocent civilians have died and more should not die. Its the sad fact of war, however.
Yes, it's sad, but what other choice do our boys in the field have? They are under attack. The bullets and RPGs are coming from a crowd of people. Do they just sit there and get blown to pieces or get on the .50 and mow down the entire crowd? For the individuals soldiers in the field, it's kill or be killed. They are either going to get killed that minute, or kill those who are trying to kill them. Either way, someone is going to get killed that moment.

I don't like seeing the civilians killed, but if it's a choice between our soldiers and insurgents+civilians, then it's pretty clear - do whatever is necessary to kil the insurgents.

Totally correct. If innocent civilians do get killed, its the fault of the terrorists who hide among them.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ, and you guys wonder why terrorists have no problems recruiting young men to fight for them. It's like "kill them all and let God sort them out" all over again. If we're ready to lump them all together, that's how they'll act.

I guess you never heard of World War II then? We nuked two Japanese cities and killed many, many civilians. But it was necessary to end the war.

Yes, yes we did, and it ended the war because the war was driven by a country, and those attacks convinced the country to surrender.

Terrorists are not nation states, it's a different problem. Killing random innocent civilians won't convince them to surrender, because they aren't responsible for those people, and it will only fuel anger against the US.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
You are a troll. You don't give anyone proof of anything. You still haven't given me proof that the Palestinian cops are corrupt. Your defense was "I don't want to debate the M.E now". LOL.

You don't wish death to Muslims? You just said it yourself that you wish the U.S would drop 500 pound bombs in the middle of Iraq where there are civilians and you compare it to Afghanistan where they drop them on caves in the mountains.

Either you lack common sense which it is very clear that you do or you hate Muslims. I would have to say all of the above because you want the U.S to drop 500 pound bombs right in the middle of the cities.

Either you grow up and learn to debate like a educated person, or dont respond to my posts. Please this is too much. I can debate others without any hostility, but you always bring it down to personal attacks.

So by wanting to drop 500 lbs bombs on terrorists makes me a muslim hater? In the middle of the cities?? oh wow, you just sunk to a new low.

Please grow up.

Like I said you clearly lack common sense and have no idea what you are ever talking about. You cannot defend yourself with me in every single thread because your facts are your opinions.

Where would you like them to drop the 500 pounds then? 5 miles away from them in the middle of the desert where the terrorist aren't hiding so they can get scared and run off?

How did you ever graduate high school? COMMON SENSE.

Just reminding you that you haven't given nobody your proof about the Palestinian cops being "corrupt". There are other threads where people have called on you to respond, but you've ignored them.

Hey listen, go away. Like I said before if your going to do personal attacks then dont even respond to my posts. If you want to grow up and debate like a man, then I would be glad to respond. Until that happens ...

You haven't even answered my question, because you cannot. As a result of that your defense is "go away".

Until you stop your lame personal attacks and grow the fvck up, then I will. Until that happens ...
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
US War Crime?

:thumbsdown:

It truly is disgusting to see what parts of our nation has degraded into. At every opportunity, unpatriotic Americans try to bash and destroy America. We are at war. I consider these acts of condemning our military an act of sedition and treason. Punishment for this horrific offense against our nation can include death.

Agreed. We are a nation at war.

If these people lived during WW2 in America, they would have been tried for treason.

Remember, loose lips sink ships. Stop aiding the enemy.

Action movie faux patriotism is not a substitute for the real thing. You two make me fvcking sick.

Honestly, I think people like you two are just as much of a threat to freedom and democracy as the terrorists. Supporting the war is one thing, but advocating putting people to death for disagreeing with you? Holy sh!t, what is wrong with you two?

That's the Bush Apologists of America at their best. :thumbsup:

They learned well from the Taliban, their Mentors.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
12,892
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126
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
US War Crime?

:thumbsdown:

It truly is disgusting to see what parts of our nation has degraded into. At every opportunity, unpatriotic Americans try to bash and destroy America. We are at war. I consider these acts of condemning our military an act of sedition and treason. Punishment for this horrific offense against our nation can include death.

Agreed. We are a nation at war.

If these people lived during WW2 in America, they would have been tried for treason.

Remember, loose lips sink ships. Stop aiding the enemy.

Action movie faux patriotism is not a substitute for the real thing. You two make me fvcking sick.

Honestly, I think people like you two are just as much of a threat to freedom and democracy as the terrorists. Supporting the war is one thing, but advocating putting people to death for disagreeing with you? Holy sh!t, what is wrong with you two?

That's the Bush Apologists of America at their best. :thumbsup:

They learned well from the Taliban, their Mentors.

:thumbsdown::disgust:
 

CycloWizard

Lifer
Sep 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: HalosPuma
That would be the people in the videos saying "Death to America".

Seriously, if you don't know who the enemy is, you need medical attention. Knowing who your enemy is is a basic human feeling.
ROFL. You have no clue. Try walking through a crowded street in a strange country and let me know if you can pick out the two people out of a thousand that want to see you dead. If it were so easy, our troops would never die because they could kill them before they got off that sucker punch.
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
The same thing applies for the Iraqi citizens. If you see the Americans coming, get the hell out of the streets. And for the American troops, if you see hostile Iraqis, kill every one of the visible Iraqis. It's called war.
So if someone throws a rock at one of our soldiers, they should just waste everyone outdoors in the entire city? You are sick.

 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
US War Crime?

:thumbsdown:

It truly is disgusting to see what parts of our nation has degraded into. At every opportunity, unpatriotic Americans try to bash and destroy America. We are at war. I consider these acts of condemning our military an act of sedition and treason. Punishment for this horrific offense against our nation can include death.

Agreed. We are a nation at war.

If these people lived during WW2 in America, they would have been tried for treason.

Remember, loose lips sink ships. Stop aiding the enemy.

Action movie faux patriotism is not a substitute for the real thing. You two make me fvcking sick.

Honestly, I think people like you two are just as much of a threat to freedom and democracy as the terrorists. Supporting the war is one thing, but advocating putting people to death for disagreeing with you? Holy sh!t, what is wrong with you two?

Ha, have I ever posted to put people to death for being against me or the war? No way. During WW2, in America you had much less freedom of speech when it came to criticizing the USA and its activies, and people were jailed for it. It was wrong. Be glad we are not putting people into concentration camps like we did during WW2.

Actually Raildogg created a thread called "Hasn't 9/11 teached us anything". There was no purpose to that thread except to point out that the enemy is all around us. What was the solution to this problem? He wouldn't say, but it is obviously to anyone who has common sense that he was clearly trying to say "kick all the Muslims out" "lock them up". If that was not his solution then what was? Obviously he thinks Bush is doing everything he is doing, so why make a thread like that if he didn't want Muslims locked up? If Bush is doing everything he is doing and he suggests that we are clueless then his solution is simple: BYE BYE Muslims/Arabs.
 

HalosPuma

Banned
Jul 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
I guess you never heard of World War II then? We nuked two Japanese cities and killed many, many civilians. But it was necessary to end the war.

Yes, yes we did, and it ended the war because the war was driven by a country, and those attacks convinced the country to surrender.

Terrorists are not nation states, it's a different problem. Killing random innocent civilians won't convince them to surrender, because they aren't responsible for those people, and it will only fuel anger against the US.
Who do you thnk funds the terrorits and allows the terrorists to operate in their nation? Do you honestly believe that the governments in the middle east have nothing to do with the terrorists and are doing everything possible to stop them? Open your eyes. Having terrorists in their nations makes it easier for the nations to carry out their attacks against the US becuase they can claim that they were not responsible for it. And it is people like you who fall for it. The truth is that the governments in the middle east support and encourage terrorist activity against Israel and the United States. That is when we are going after Iran next.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
US War Crime?

:thumbsdown:

It truly is disgusting to see what parts of our nation has degraded into. At every opportunity, unpatriotic Americans try to bash and destroy America. We are at war. I consider these acts of condemning our military an act of sedition and treason. Punishment for this horrific offense against our nation can include death.

Agreed. We are a nation at war.

If these people lived during WW2 in America, they would have been tried for treason.

Remember, loose lips sink ships. Stop aiding the enemy.

Action movie faux patriotism is not a substitute for the real thing. You two make me fvcking sick.

Honestly, I think people like you two are just as much of a threat to freedom and democracy as the terrorists. Supporting the war is one thing, but advocating putting people to death for disagreeing with you? Holy sh!t, what is wrong with you two?

Ha, have I ever posted to put people to death for being against me or the war? No way. During WW2, in America you had much less freedom of speech when it came to criticizing the USA and its activies, and people were jailed for it. It was wrong. Be glad we are not putting people into concentration camps like we did during WW2.

Actually Raildogg created a thread called "Hasn't 9/11 teached us anything". There was no purpose to that thread except to point out that the enemy is all around us. What was the solution to this problem? He wouldn't say, but it is obviously to anyone who has common sense that he was clearly trying to say "kick all the Muslims out" "lock them up". If that was not his solution then what was? Obviously he thinks Bush is doing everything he is doing, so why make a thread like that if he didn't want Muslims locked up? If Bush is doing everything he is doing and he suggests that we are clueless then his solution is simple: BYE BYE Muslims/Arabs.

You are a paranoid sick person. STOP LIEING!!! I DONT HATE MUSLIMS OR ARABS. YOU SICKO!

You have no clue what I was trying to say. So stop the guessing.

So by making a thread on what 9/11 taught usmeans I want muslims kicked or locked up?? I simply have no words for this.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
US War Crime?

:thumbsdown:

It truly is disgusting to see what parts of our nation has degraded into. At every opportunity, unpatriotic Americans try to bash and destroy America. We are at war. I consider these acts of condemning our military an act of sedition and treason. Punishment for this horrific offense against our nation can include death.

Agreed. We are a nation at war.

If these people lived during WW2 in America, they would have been tried for treason.

Remember, loose lips sink ships. Stop aiding the enemy.

Action movie faux patriotism is not a substitute for the real thing. You two make me fvcking sick.

Honestly, I think people like you two are just as much of a threat to freedom and democracy as the terrorists. Supporting the war is one thing, but advocating putting people to death for disagreeing with you? Holy sh!t, what is wrong with you two?

Ha, have I ever posted to put people to death for being against me or the war? No way. During WW2, in America you had much less freedom of speech when it came to criticizing the USA and its activies, and people were jailed for it. It was wrong. Be glad we are not putting people into concentration camps like we did during WW2.

Actually Raildogg created a thread called "Hasn't 9/11 teached us anything". There was no purpose to that thread except to point out that the enemy is all around us. What was the solution to this problem? He wouldn't say, but it is obviously to anyone who has common sense that he was clearly trying to say "kick all the Muslims out" "lock them up". If that was not his solution then what was? Obviously he thinks Bush is doing everything he is doing, so why make a thread like that if he didn't want Muslims locked up? If Bush is doing everything he is doing and he suggests that we are clueless then his solution is simple: BYE BYE Muslims/Arabs.

You are a paranoid sick person. STOP LIEING!!! I DONT HATE MUSLIMS OR ARABS. YOU SICKO!

You have no clue what I was trying to say. So stop the guessing.

So by making a thread on what 9/11 taught usmeans I want muslims kicked or locked up?? I simply have no words for this.

You haven't said what your solution to the problem is. Until you tell people what the solution to the problem is I will say what I think because what other solution is there? If Bush is doing everything he can according to you then what more do you want? What do you want us "clueless" people to do?

I won't get an answer from you because you know I am right. You will just ramble away.
 

HalosPuma

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
That would be the people in the videos saying "Death to America".

Seriously, if you don't know who the enemy is, you need medical attention. Knowing who your enemy is is a basic human feeling.
ROFL. You have no clue. Try walking through a crowded street in a strange country and let me know if you can pick out the two people out of a thousand that want to see you dead. If it were so easy, our troops would never die because they could kill them before they got off that sucker punch.
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
The same thing applies for the Iraqi citizens. If you see the Americans coming, get the hell out of the streets. And for the American troops, if you see hostile Iraqis, kill every one of the visible Iraqis. It's called war.
So if someone throws a rock at one of our soldiers, they should just waste everyone outdoors in the entire city? You are sick.

I said bullets and RPGs. When under attack, we should kill everyone in the direction where the attack came from until it stops. And if insurgents can be identified, then we do not stop firing until they are dead. If that means killing civilians caught in the cross-fire, so be it. Most would have dispersed anyways. Every additional day an insurgent lives is another day that he can kill Americans. Better to end his life as soon as possible.
 

Aimster

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So next time someone is firing at police lets fire at that direction and not care for the lives of the civilians.
What you people are saying is U.S civilians > Iraqi civlians.

The way I see it is human = human.
people = people
mom = mom
dad = dad

Nobody is greater than anyone.

Whatever.
 
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Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
That would be the people in the videos saying "Death to America".

Seriously, if you don't know who the enemy is, you need medical attention. Knowing who your enemy is is a basic human feeling.
ROFL. You have no clue. Try walking through a crowded street in a strange country and let me know if you can pick out the two people out of a thousand that want to see you dead. If it were so easy, our troops would never die because they could kill them before they got off that sucker punch.
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
The same thing applies for the Iraqi citizens. If you see the Americans coming, get the hell out of the streets. And for the American troops, if you see hostile Iraqis, kill every one of the visible Iraqis. It's called war.
So if someone throws a rock at one of our soldiers, they should just waste everyone outdoors in the entire city? You are sick.

I said bullets and RPGs. When under attack, we should kill everyone in the direction where the attack came from until it stops. And if insurgents can be identified, then we do not stop firing until they are dead. If that means killing civilians caught in the cross-fire, so be it. Most would have dispersed anyways. Every additional day an insurgent lives is another day that he can kill Americans. Better to end his life as soon as possible.
The insurgents kill more than Americans. They'll kill innocent civilians as well. The hypocrite RBHrs won't mention it when that happens though. They only cry when the US does it.

Those kind of tears are called Crocodile Tears.
 

HalosPuma

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Originally posted by: Aimster
So next time someone is firing at police lets fire at that direction and not care for the lives of the civilians.
What you people are saying is U.S civilians > Iraqi civlians.

The way I see it is human = human.

Whatever.

That is not a valid comparison. We are talking about soldiers, who job is to kill versus police whose job is to protect and serve. Besides, the police do not have bombs, nor can they raid and kill suspected gang-members hideouts. Although I would like to see the police have the authority to do that. We'd get rid of our own domestic terrorists (gang-members) like we are getting rid of the insurgents in Iraq.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: HalosPuma
Originally posted by: Aimster
So next time someone is firing at police lets fire at that direction and not care for the lives of the civilians.
What you people are saying is U.S civilians > Iraqi civlians.

The way I see it is human = human.

Whatever.

That is not a valid comparison. We are talking about soldiers, who job is to kill versus police whose job is to protect and serve. Besides, the police do not have bombs, nor can they raid and kill suspected gang-members hideouts. Although I would like to see the police have the authority to do that. We'd get rid of our own domestic terrorists (gang-members) like we are getting rid of the insurgents in Iraq.

Well you can see your opinion is flawed if the police are not allowed to do that.

BTW the job of the soldiers in Iraq is not to kill. They do protect and serve.
 

sirpado

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Please stop the insulting,it doesnt do anything, it wont get further in dialogue, it just raises emotions.

BUt let me raise a question...In the revolutionary war, the war that led to our own independence, say if we changed our perspective, viewing things from the eyes of the leaders of the british empire.

Suddenly the "glorified revolutionaries" turn into "insurgents."

They are fighting for their country, they dont believe what is going on so they are doing something about it. Now i love america to death, but try switching the perspective around. Maybe your hate of these "scum" will turn into understanding of the situation.

Now when you reply to this, dont call me anti-american, but respond to the content of my post, and tell me your honest opinion.