US role in Korean ship Cheonan sinking

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Elias824

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AzN said:
If you submit and come to our side of the fence then we might spare you. Of course you would have to be our second class citizen and clean our boots every now and then but you;ll get something called freedom in return. :cool:
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Id be fascinated to hear what your definition of freedom is
 
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Infohawk

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AzN said:
If you submit and come to our side of the fence then we might spare you. Of course you would have to be our second class citizen and clean our boots every now and then but you;ll get something called freedom in return. :cool:
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AzN, what is your take on Western contributions to science?
 
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AzN said:
If you submit and come to our side of the fence then we might spare you. Of course you would have to be our second class citizen and clean our boots every now and then but you;ll get something called freedom in return. :cool:
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Sweet!

I want to form a club, can you PM me your address and home phone?
Maybe we can defect together. That would really show those American pig-dog capitalists.
 
CKTurbo128

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AzN seems to be just another typical radical, left-leaning South Korean. Note that being "left" in South Korean politics is very different than the "left" in U.S. politics, as it essentially means:

- Against U.S. military presence in South Korea and for the full withdrawal of U.S. forces from South Korea.
- Full freedom of expression & rights in South Korea (basically, revise or throw out the National Security Act, which currently restricts pro-communism beliefs and recognition of North Korea)
- Reconciliatory / sympathetic attitude towards North Korea.
- Against FTA with the U.S.
- Against beef trade with the U.S. over mad cow disease scares (as well as possible anti-U.S. sentiment).
- Heavily nationalistic.

The governments of Kim Dae-jung (1998-2003) and Roh Moo-hyun (2003-2008) were left-leaning and are exactly why South Korea gave unconditional aid to North Korea (via Sunshine policy, which failed miserably) in the last decade. It's also why South Korean-U.S. relations fell to a low point during those years. Younger South Koreans tend to be left-leaning, as most of them are not fully aware of the facts surrounding the Korean War and North Korea.

The current government of South Korea under Lee Myung-bak is conservative, which takes a hardline stance towards North Korea, supports free trade, as well as closer relations with the U.S. Older South Koreans (especially the Koreans that remember the Korean War) tend to fall into this category.
 
IndyColtsFan

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Jimbo said:
Sweet!

I want to form a club, can you PM me your address and home phone?
Maybe we can defect together. That would really show those American pig-dog capitalists.
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Hey now, I saw her first! I am trying to get AzN to let me be her agent in Hollywood. She has infinite comedy potential and is very obviously, a fine actress.
 
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CptObvious

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As someone of Korean descent who's been living in Korea for two years, it always cracks me up to hear or read wackos who blame the U.S. for everything...North Korea, the economy, the weather, etc. Fortunately they are a minority in the society, but the media also feeds into this bias. As I mentioned in another thread, some Koreans can be really schizophrenic when it comes to their love-hate of things American.
 
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piasabird

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I think you all underestimate the ability of the feds to collect evidence and asses an incident of this nature. We probably already have more than enough evidence to present an case in court against the north koreans. We have enough evidence to show any international court that it was the North Koreans that sunk the battleship. This kind of provocation could result in the USA asking the UN for a ban on all protection on the open seas for all North Korean naval vessels, and a blockade of all their ports.
 
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piasabird said:
I think you all underestimate the ability of the feds to collect evidence and asses an incident of this nature. We probably already have more than enough evidence to present an case in court against the north koreans. We have enough evidence to show any international court that it was the North Koreans that sunk the battleship. This kind of provocation could result in the USA asking the UN for a ban on all protection on the open seas for all North Korean naval vessels, and a blockade of all their ports.
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Cant we just sink one of their ships and call it even?
 
Schadenfroh

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Elias824 said:
Cant we just sink one of their ships and call it even?
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Good luck finding a North Korean ship that is worth more than one of our torpedoes. Likely more cost effective to have a couple of guys shoot holes in it with their M16s and let it sink.
 
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chucky2

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Sorry, but I just wanted to post in this epic thread...it's like the long ago Butter thread, but, in P&N... :D
 
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