Upgrade from i7 950 to Xeon W3690?

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I have 12 GB RAM. I usefully let Windows run the pagefile. But at times I have it fixed at if I remember correctly at 6 GB min and max.

Well I was surprised that the bar shot way up and the count was a huge and it happened right away. Now I know why. Thanks. I had read that some musicians run their machines with a lot of RAM with pagefile turned off. Is my memory failing me?

Turning off the page file is generally OK, but you can run into some specific instances where programs will crash if at least a nominal page file doesn't exist.

When I said it wasn't a valid test, I meant that turning off the page file screws of LatencyMon's calculations.
 
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Edit: Ok, that works :) I like Windows 10. Installed it on those Gigabyte boards & it recognized everything..


EDIT: after i purchase windows 10, i don't have it yet


It's just so frustrating. I wanna help this member out, and now I'm set back, lol! (ffs)

I think it was the update. This machine i'm on now has corrupt files from a windows update that is for Windows 10. I'm holding off on 10 for a while on this rig till i'm familiar with it on the other system.


I think you should try one of these chips out. Sell off one of those boards or chips and pick one of these little suckers up. Defaults to 3.6GHz, multi tops out around 56 i think, lol. The loop might of cost around close to 3 bills in the end.. only used about 11" of tubing - lol I'm hoping it'll keep the chip around 70* in the 4.6-4.8GHz range while loaded for stability tests. Currently have the motor % at 40 with some low rpm fans cooling the rad...
 
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Burpo

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I have no interest in liquid cooling, nor expensive, old, 130 watt Gulftown CPU's. I just picked up a pair of X5650's for $95.. I'll be overclocking by 70% on air, and doing it with a board, CPU, RAM & a 2Tb drive, that costs about what that chip does.

Xeon X5650 - $47.50
Gigabyte X58 board - $60
12Gb kit Kingston RAM - $37.50
2Tb Hiitachi 7200rpm HDD $52

Total = $197

For me, that's the fun of it :)
 
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I have no interest in liquid cooling, nor expensive, old, 130 watt Gulftown CPU's. I just picked up a pair of X5650's for $95.. I'll be overclocking by 70% on air, and doing it with a board, CPU, RAM & a 2Tb drive, that costs about what that chip does.

Xeon X5650 - $47.50
Gigabyte X58 board - $60
12Gb kit Kingston RAM - $37.50
2Tb Hiitachi 7200rpm HDD $52

Total = $197

For me, that's the fun of it :)

Good for you man, good for you :)
 

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EDIT: after i purchase windows 10, i don't have it yet


It's just so frustrating. I wanna help this member out, and now I'm set back, lol! (ffs)

I think it was the update. This machine i'm on now has corrupt files from a windows update that is for Windows 10. I'm holding off on 10 for a while on this rig till i'm familiar with it on the other system.


I think you should try one of these chips out. Sell off one of those boards or chips and pick one of these little suckers up. Defaults to 3.6GHz, multi tops out around 56 i think, lol. The loop might of cost around close to 3 bills in the end.. only used about 11" of tubing - lol I'm hoping it'll keep the chip around 70* in the 4.6-4.8GHz range while loaded for stability tests. Currently have the motor % at 40 with some low rpm fans cooling the rad...

Sorry to hear that problems that you are having.

I am in the middle of updating four W7 machines to W10. One down and three to go. My music/Photoshop machine will be the third in line. I will do my less used computers first and if I screw up it is no big deal.
 

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Upped the multiplier from 26 to 30 and got 4.0 MHz.
But CPU-Z says core speed is 4130.15 MHz.
Are we making progress?
 
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Upped the multiplier from 26 to 30 and got 4.0 MHz.
But CPU-Z says core speed is 4130.15 MHz.
Are we making progress?


Simple, huh? :)


What have you done with the voltage settings? Have you set them manually? I want to stress to you that leaving your voltage settings to Auto when overclocking can be a grave mistake for your system if you are not experienced with your bios and familiar with your bios settings.


I'm just gonna buy Windows 10. I hope to go out tomorrow and get it at the local Micro Center unless I spend an entire day re-installing windows 7, doing all the updates, then updating to windows 10.. which i'm not too cool on.
 
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E. C. Yian

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Simple, huh? :)


What have you done with the voltage settings? Have you set them manually? I want to stress to you that leaving your voltage settings to Auto when overclocking can be a grave mistake for your system if you are not experienced with your bios and familiar with your bios settings.


I'm just gonna buy Windows 10. I hope to go out tomorrow and get it at the local Micro Center unless I spend an entire day re-installing windows 7, doing all the updates, then updating to windows 10.. which i'm not too cool on.

Run the W7 updates during the night and save $100.

Got BSOD.
So Multi at 28 and 3.73 MHz I believe it was.
 

E. C. Yian

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I have no interest in liquid cooling, nor expensive, old, 130 watt Gulftown CPU's. I just picked up a pair of X5650's for $95.. I'll be overclocking by 70% on air, and doing it with a board, CPU, RAM & a 2Tb drive, that costs about what that chip does.

Xeon X5650 - $47.50
Gigabyte X58 board - $60
12Gb kit Kingston RAM - $37.50
2Tb Hiitachi 7200rpm HDD $52

Total = $197

For me, that's the fun of it :)

Great prices.
I wish you the best!
 

E. C. Yian

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At 3.73 MHz did not get a BSOD when I ran Cinebench:

On Cinebench
CPU 9.13 pts and 9.21 with out OC at presumably 3.47.
CPU 9.53 pts and 9.53 with OC at 3.73 MHz
 

Burpo

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That chip should do 12's in Cinebench. You need to up the voltage along with the multiplier & bclk.
 
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I've got a bad motherboard. The motherboard will not allow the system to operate beyond the 26 multiplier. It can be set to whatever multiplier but when it's set beyond the 26x multi it won't boot above anything past 26. Thanks EVGA!

No cursing in the technical forums please.

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Where do you see that a W3690 is unlocked? From what I can find it's max turbo multiplier is 28, and you can't lock that in bios.. 26 or 27 maybe..
 
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Where do you see that a W3690 is unlocked? From what I can find it's max turbo multiplier is 28, and you can't lock that in bios.. 26 or 27 maybe..

The bios allows the multi beyond 50, it just doesn't boot with anything past 26. I bet it would work in my Asrock board but i aint changing all that around just to prove it does. I know my turbo multi works with my X5690 in it. Besides E. C. Yian already posted with a 30 multi. These chips are like the X990 and X980 chips.

Just going to have to keep a look out for another decent X58 EVGA 760 or 770 board. Should of bought both I was looking at while this one was being modded by EVGA
 
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Yes, the X5690 is unlocked (confirmed) but from what I've read on the W3690, only some ES chips were unlocked..
 
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The bios may show anything, but the micro code in the chip has to allow it to operate.
 
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The bios may show anything, but the micro code in the chip has to allow it to operate.


The thing is my i7 970 doesn't allow the multi beyond 24. So why is this one free all the way to 50.

There are guys on Overclock.net that have W3690's that are using the unlocked multi. And why would E. C. Yian's boot up at 30.


Don't let my board fool you, it's a bad board that was RMA'd to me in exchange for my first one from EVGA in 2009, it's just that I'm finding all this out in 2015, lol
 
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