Upgrade from i7 950 to Xeon W3690?

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I'm familiar with Gigabyte bios and have screen shots of an overclocked X5550. Thing about Gigabyte is you have to watch the voltage. It tends to over volt badly on auto. Temps get high very quickly if you don't set limits..

@E. C. Yian, You HAVE to set limits before you begin to overclock. I'd say 1.32v would be a safe CPU Vcore to start with for 4GHz. More than likely you'll be able to lower that but it's a good place to start.

 

[E. C. Yian]

I got sidetracked and consolidated two old Dell computers to make one of them work. The Windows 7 booting HDD was put into an the older 2003 Windows Server computer and to my surprise is worked. Forgot to turn off automatic updates so wasted hours updating. It was declared a cracked copy so I called Microsoft and they put me through the procedure to make it ligit. This will be my internet and guest computer. A few more thing to do and will start working on my music/Photoshop W3690 update.

Regarding the BIOS settings I should be able to photo it and post the images here. I hope it is possible.

 

[E. C. Yian]

Oh Shoot!
It's a server. Why would it need audio. Dang, I should have looked if it had an audio output first. Looks like I will need to get a cheap audio PCI card. Any other suggestions?

 

[E. C. Yian]

I just got the SYBA SD-CM-UAUD USB Stereo Audio Adapter for $5.99
using the code.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186035
So this should solve my audio problem.

Hope to start upgrading my W3690 Music/Photoshop PC Sunday.

 

[mfenn]

I got sidetracked and consolidated two old Dell computers to make one of them work. The Windows 7 booting HDD was put into an the older 2003 Windows Server computer and to my surprise is worked. Forgot to turn off automatic updates so wasted hours updating. It was declared a cracked copy so I called Microsoft and they put me through the procedure to make it ligit. This will be my internet and guest computer. A few more thing to do and will start working on my music/Photoshop W3690 update.

Regarding the BIOS settings I should be able to photo it and post the images here. I hope it is possible.

Don't bother with Server 2k3 as a web browsing machine. It's no longer getting any security updates and as such will be quite vulnerable. You can take the hardware and install Windows 7 on it.

 

[E. C. Yian]

Ok the i7 950 is out and the W3690 is in
in my music/Photoshop machine.
Success to phase one.

No issues with the Windows 7 genuine
this time.

Took longer than expected. The Mugen
cooler is not so easy to install with mobo
seated in the case.

Phase two involving OC will be fun?
Sometime during the week?

 

[E. C. Yian]

lol


I'm indecisive on how I want my loop routed. Good Luck with yours.

Are you able to host pics for shots of your bios if you have any questions?

Did you get your liquid cooling figured out?
Making any progress?

If they allow images in this forum I suppose I can post the BIOS photos..

 

[E. C. Yian]

lol


I'm indecisive on how I want my loop routed. Good Luck with yours.

Are you able to host pics for shots of your bios if you have any questions?

Regarding the BIO settings images will the manual help?
http://download1.gigabyte.us/Files/Manual/mb_manual_ga-x58a-ud3r_v2.0_e.pdf
it has all the BIOS pages.

 

[E. C. Yian]

Don't bother with Server 2k3 as a web browsing machine. It's no longer getting any security updates and as such will be quite vulnerable. You can take the hardware and install Windows 7 on it.

That's what I did. I consolidated two old Dell computers to make one of them work. The Windows 7 booting HDD was put into an the older 2003 Windows Server computer and to my surprise is worked.

 

[E. C. Yian]

Did some testing on the upgraded W3690 Windows 7 machine:
PDC Latency Checker V1.20 maxed at 152 μs
Latency Mon V2.03 got 92, 45, 4
IntelBurn Test V2.5 Ok at Stress Level: maximum

Also try?:
Open Hardware Monitor
Process Explorer

 

[Burpo]

CPUZ ID will show your speed. Get it here.
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

You'll want to monitor temps. CoreTemp available here.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Windows-Widgets/Widget-Miscellaneous/Core-Temp.shtml#download

Download Cinebench 11.5 here.. and test.. post your results before over clocking
http://downloads.guru3d.com/CineBENCH-11.5-download-2475.html

 

[E. C. Yian]

CPUZ ID will show your speed. Get it here.
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

You'll want to monitor temps. CoreTemp available here.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Windows-Widgets/Widget-Miscellaneous/Core-Temp.shtml#download

Download Cinebench 11.5 here.. and test.. post your results before over clocking
http://downloads.guru3d.com/CineBENCH-11.5-download-2475.html

Had an older version of CPUZ and now got the latest and thanks to you I opened it.

Have Core Temp 0.99.8 and again thanks to your suggestion I opened it. Not sure if there is a newer version. One of the cores got up to 50 degrees C. The W3690 processor was not stressed.

I turned off my Vipre anti-virus program. Will some if these tests yield a different result when Windows 10 is installed?

On the LatencyMon:
Highest reported DPC routine execution time (μs) 3553.721779
SCSIPort.sys, SCSI port driver Microsoft Corp.

And

Highest total Pagefault count:
Highest reported hard pagefault resolution time (μs) 134809.209521
It look very red and very bad!
I am redoing the LatencyMon overnight and see what happens

On Cinebench
Open GL 4.65 fps
CPU 9.13 pts and 9.21 pts

 

[Burpo]

Cinebench score of 9.13 is ok for stock, but my 2.66Ghz Xeon X5650 is in the 11's. you will be too once you overclock.

 

[E. C. Yian]

Cinebench score of 9.13 is ok for stock, but my 2.66Ghz Xeon X5650 is in the 11's. you will be too once you overclock.

Core Temp 0.99.8 One of the cores got up to 50 degrees C.
The W3690 processor was not stressed. Is this ok?

I let LatencyMon run for 12 hours
Highest reported DPC routine execution time (μs) 194.814994
A very nice green bar.

And

Reported Total Hard Pagefault Count: 210979
Highest reported hard pagefault resolution time (μs) 530865.080103
The bar looks very red and very bad!

Tried gain and within two minutes
Highest reported hard pagefault resolution time (μs) 92226.002851
Again the bar was red.

On Cinebench
Open GL 4.65 fps
CPU 9.13 pts and 9.21 pts and hope to get it above 11

Should I wait to install Windows 10 and then run the tests that rely on the OS?
Besides the Latencymon which other test relies on the OS?

 

[mfenn]

Reported Total Hard Pagefault Count: 210979
Highest reported hard pagefault resolution time (μs) 530865.080103
The bar looks very red and very bad!

Tried gain and within two minutes
Highest reported hard pagefault resolution time (μs) 92226.002851
Again the bar was red.

Do you have an SSD? If not, you can expect that your hard page faults (paging memory in from disk) are going to take a long time.

 

[E. C. Yian]

Just updated the BIOS to FH which is the latest BIOS.
So I ready or near ready to OC!

 

[E. C. Yian]

Do you have an SSD? If not, you can expect that your hard page faults (paging memory in from disk) are going to take a long time.

So it is the problem caused by my 7200 RPM SATA drives?

I still get "Your system appears to be suitable for handling real-time audio and other tasks without dropouts" and it is written in Green. I however did not notice if it was red on the 12 hour test.

I did a “no pagefile” and things got really ugly with the red bar on the Highest reported hard pagefault resolution time (μs) and Count.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

You are going to want to invest in SSD drives for doing Photo shop type stuff. Didn't you post something from Adobe in this thread somewhere?


In other news I finally decided on how I want my loop to work. All I need to do is run some distilled water through the rad to get any sentiment cleared out, then secure all the barbs, the radiator, and tubing down and then it run. I hope I didn't forget any future steps. Seems right now I didn't think that I need to have the entire loop filled up and closed off before I install it :hmm:

 

[E. C. Yian]

You are going to want to invest in SSD drives for doing Photo shop type stuff. Didn't you post something from Adobe in this thread somewhere?


In other news I finally decided on how I want my loop to work. All I need to do is run some distilled water through the rad to get any sentiment cleared out, then secure all the barbs, the radiator, and tubing down and then it run. I hope I didn't forget any future steps. Seems right now I didn't think that I need to have the entire loop filled up and closed off before I install it :hmm:

Yea, an SSD drive will be good and I may invest in one later on. Yes my computer is for audio and Photoshop.

I was wondering what happened to you. It seems that the cooling is very time consuming. Can you please go over my posts on this page and help with the Questions. Thanks.

I am waiting for Windows 10 for 4 W7 machines. I hope two less used machine get W10 first.

 

[mfenn]

So it is the problem caused by my 7200 RPM SATA drives?

I still get "Your system appears to be suitable for handling real-time audio and other tasks without dropouts" and it is written in Green. I however did not notice if it was red on the 12 hour test.

I did a “no pagefile” and things got really ugly with the red bar on the Highest reported hard pagefault resolution time (μs) and Count.

As long as you don't run out of memory, you will be fine with 7200RPM drives. However, if you do run out of memory and swap, your recording is pretty much trashed on that sort of drive due to the low response time.

Turning off the pagefile isn't a valid test because it screws up the timing assumptions.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Yea, an SSD drive will be good and I may invest in one later on. Yes my computer is for audio and Photoshop.

I was wondering what happened to you. It seems that the cooling is very time consuming. Can you please go over my posts on this page and help with the Questions. Thanks.

I am waiting for Windows 10 for 4 W7 machines. I hope two less used machine get W10 first.

For me it takes planning. And studying after the plans are done. Then starting over again. I'm im the middle of sterilizing the radiator right now. I just flushed it out with hot distilled water, as well as the block. Just gonna let the distilled water i boiled cool down before I use it in the loop. I don't want it evaporate if I fill the loop now

 

[E. C. Yian]

As long as you don't run out of memory, you will be fine with 7200RPM drives. However, if you do run out of memory and swap, your recording is pretty much trashed on that sort of drive due to the low response time.

Turning off the pagefile isn't a valid test because it screws up the timing assumptions.

I have 12 GB RAM. I usefully let Windows run the pagefile. But at times I have it fixed at if I remember correctly at 6 GB min and max.

Well I was surprised that the bar shot way up and the count was a huge and it happened right away. Now I know why. Thanks. I had read that some musicians run their machines with a lot of RAM with pagefile turned off. Is my memory failing me?

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

The W3690 is in and running. Runs a little warmer with the loop setup. I think the pump puts a little extra heat in the loop but I'm more than sure it will start to stretch it's legs in the 4.6-4.8GHz range during stability testing and out-perform air cooling.

Well it's insanely easy to clock the chip. Just highlight the multiplier and hit the "+" key to raise the multi. You should see the bios also change the CPU speed. I haven't locked down a clock yet but I tested it through the bios and it's fantastic!!!

 

[Burpo]

Tested thru bios? That's nothing more than a calculator. What's important is the speed it will boot & work at.. Anxious to see what combination of multiplier & bclk you come up with that's stable & won't overheat..

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Tested thru bios? That's nothing more than a calculator. What's important is the speed it will boot & work at.. Anxious to see what combination of multiplier & bclk you come up with that's stable & won't overheat..

Well when the multiplier is unlocked and it shows in the bios it means it works. I am also anxious to see how the loop performs.


Windows fucked up some install looks like. sfc /scannow only completes 66% looks like i have a shit storm of work to do before i can screw around with this pos

it's either a windows install screw up or when i was pulling out the 970 it slid off the socket pins, or it could be the 3690 or the bios might not like it.. pc won't even shut off