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[WelshBloke]

Except the iPhone 4 you mean. 8 hours continuous use, no other smart phone is even in the same ball park.

Thats still really crappy compared to a lot of dumb phones.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Except the iPhone 4 you mean. 8 hours continuous use, no other smart phone is even in the same ball park.

Except even Apple don't claim 8 hours. How are you getting that number?

 

[rh71]

The droid X is 8hrs no?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Except even Apple don't claim 8 hours. How are you getting that number?

• Talk time:Up to 7 hours on 3GUp to 14 hours on 2G
• Standby time: Up to 300 hours
• Internet use:Up to 6 hours on 3GUp to 10 hours on Wi-Fi
• Video playback: Up to 10 hours
• Audio playback: Up to 40 hours

From Apple's website

 

[DivideBYZero]

From Apple's website

Exactly, seven hours talk time. I understood Zebo was quoting 8 hours of 3G talk time. I may be wrong.

 

[Anubis]

And outselling ever single other smartphone by a huge margin.

pretty sure Bose outsells B&W, but it sure as shit doesn't mean they make a better product.

speaking of sales numbers what are the numbers for 1st time buyers for the iphone 4. because those are the only real important ones, sheep continuing to be sheep don't matter. new converts do

 

[DivideBYZero]

pretty sure Bose outsells B&W, but it sure as shit doesn't mean they make a better product.

speaking of sales numbers what are the numbers for 1st time buyers for the iphone 4. because those are the only real important ones, sheep continuing to be sheep don't matter. new converts do

Not to mention he's wrong:

http://www.gearlog.com/2010/04/rim_becomes_first_smartphone_v.php

Can't see Apple in that list.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Here's the best story on the issue I've seen yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn-YesqzvNk

:awe:

 

[Anubis]

Here's the best story on the issue I've seen yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn-YesqzvNk

:awe:

the comments on that vid are great

 

[Zebo]

I know most people don't talk like me but back before unlimited days I had $650 mo AT&T bills!! Over 10,000 min a month. I was a home builder talking to dozens of subs, employees and suppliers a day, not to mention personal. I have another business today which is similar chatting (thank god for unltd) - so while battery life may not be as important to y'all - I need all day battery life. Only one smart phone provides that - which is why iphone 4 is my first real smart phone.

 

[tatteredpotato]

I know most people don't talk like me but back before unlimited days I had $650 mo AT&T bills!! Over 10,000 min a month. I was a home builder talking to dozens of subs, employees and suppliers a day, not to mention personal. I have another business today which is similar chatting (thank god for unltd) - so while battery life may not be as important to y'all - I need all day battery life. Only one smart phone provides that - which is why iphone 4 is my first real smart phone.

You mean you actually TALK on your phone?

What a strange little world we live in.

 

[Zebo]

You mean you actually TALK on your phone?

What a strange little world we live in.

Amazing aint it - My best friend and his brother own a Carpet Store. You should see them, non frkn stop. Can't even eat lunch with them. Also iPhone users.

 

[cheezy321]

Thats still really crappy compared to a lot of dumb phones.

Your strawman argument officially makes you an Apple hater.

Comparing a smartphone battery life to that of a normal phone? Weak. Seriously seriously weak.

 

[zerocool84]

Here's the best story on the issue I've seen yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn-YesqzvNk

:awe:

lol geez that was waaaaaaay over the top but funny as hell. My favorite part was when he cut off the guys fingers so it won't drop the bars.

 

[Ballatician]

Apple had more guts than I thought they would have. They basically came out and said, "This is some bullshit the media has exaggerated because everyone loves a little schadenfreude. We're not going to be dicks about it, so here's a free case. If that's not good enough, return the phone. Nobody is going to though."

Let's see if iPhones are returned in droves or if sales plummet. At the end of the day this is a story overblown by nerd rage. If the Xbox survived RRoD (where every unit made from 2005 - 2007 eventually crapped out) I think Apple is not going to have a problem with a few people in areas of bad reception holding it the wrong way.

Fantards were desperately wishing for the Achilles' heel of the iPhone juggernaut. This wasn't it, sorry guys.

No.

That is overblown nerd rage. Never even seen an RRoD and I have the original.

 

[sciwizam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMl_71dqeR8&feature=player_embedded

 

[MrX8503]

Thats still really crappy compared to a lot of dumb phones.

Except even Apple don't claim 8 hours. How are you getting that number?

Exactly, seven hours talk time. I understood Zebo was quoting 8 hours of 3G talk time. I may be wrong.

Are we being serious here? Dear lord, the iPhone gets great battery life, leave your hate at the door.

 

[cheezy321]

No.

That is overblown nerd rage. Never even seen an RRoD and I have the original.

Not even close. Ive had 7, yes, SEVEN Xbox 360's broken and fixed by microsoft.

4 RROD
3 Disk read error

MS fixed them all lickity split tho. The original 360's are time bombs

 

[Fingolfin269]

Anyone who owns an original 360 and thinks if RRoD hasn't struck it isn't going to strike is crazy. Which is why I got in on the Target deal a month or so ago where the Arcade was in the neighborhood of $130 with a $50 Target gift card. Took my original in to Gamestop and walked out with $85 in store credit. $85+50=$135 so basically I got a free hardware upgrade and peace of mind.

Anyway, back on topic, if there is one thing I love about the iPhone it is the talk time. Holy shit close to 8 hours is just amazing. I just got off a one hour conference call and my Pre had drained by around 25%.

 

[WelshBloke]

Your strawman argument officially makes you an Apple hater.

Comparing a smartphone battery life to that of a normal phone? Weak. Seriously seriously weak.

Dont be ridiculous. Theres no anti apple sentiment there, it stands for all smartphones.

Why not compare smartphone battery life to dumbphone battery life?

Zebo was saying he needs to talk all day on his phone for his business, if thats the case then a decent dumbphone would be better.

 

[DivideBYZero]

 

[Patranus]

No.

That is overblown nerd rage. Never even seen an RRoD and I have the original.

The failure rate for the XBox 360 is 54%. 54% is hardly "overblown nerd rage".
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/101/1014486p1.html

(I wonder how much the sales numbers have been inflated by people buying a 2nd xbox instead of getting the failed xbox fixed)

 

[tatteredpotato]

No.

That is overblown nerd rage. Never even seen an RRoD and I have the original.

I've had 6 RROD on 2 separate units. Of course I sold the old one used so it's not like I just have them all laying around.

So yea the failure rate is ridiculously high, however I think I have a golden ticket from MS. I call them up on units out of warranty and they fix them for me no questions asked. So while it's a big issue, Microsoft has kept me satisfied for now.

 

[tatteredpotato]

I just got this in email today from IEEE, an interesting listen from an unbiased source.

iPhone Antenna Podcast (14:10 runtime).
Blog with results

Summary:
Antenna expert tests iPhone in real world scenario (no anechoic chambers).
Tested using data rates in an open field.
Performance drop when held a certain way.
Tried using a second phone as a "control" unit to monitor network speed (in case of network slow downs), however they determined throttling would occur randomly.

It would be nice to see these guys test other phones in the same scenario (besides just the earlier iPhone) to see how the iPhone 4 holds up relative to the rest of the industry.

 

[AMDZen]

I just got this in email today from IEEE, an interesting listen from an unbiased source.

iPhone Antenna Podcast (14:10 runtime).
Blog with results

Summary:
Antenna expert tests iPhone in real world scenario (no anechoic chambers).
Tested using data rates in an open field.
Performance drop when held a certain way.
Tried using a second phone as a "control" unit to monitor network speed (in case of network slow downs), however they determined throttling would occur randomly.

It would be nice to see these guys test other phones in the same scenario (besides just the earlier iPhone) to see how the iPhone 4 holds up relative to the rest of the industry.

So the 3G was actually worse. A lot worse, and yet nobody noticed it.