UPDATE: Cops shoot alleged Playstation3 robber to DEATH

[waggy]

Originally posted by: DLeRium
Ok, you don't even fire shots through doors unless you're at war or something. This is not Waco. This is not even someone that's KNOWN to be armed.

Even if you were going in to arrest someone that's known to be armed, you would storm in first and maybe get in a firefight. Maybe even get SWAT to go in with tear gas or flashbangs. Maybe a utilize a riot shield? The point is, this is just excessive.

yeah. that last post by NSF really changed my mind.

shooting through the door? BEFORE going in? WTF?

for the record i do not try to go back on what i said early. the guy had commited a ARMED robbery so i could understand the shooting. but the new info blows it out.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Yup, looks bad for the cops. They need to be charged and sentenced severely. If there's no other evidence and they just opened fire without cause I'd fully support the death penalty for all of them. As worthless as criminals are, criminal actions by law enforcement is even worse.

 

[James3shin]

shouldn't have heisted those PS3s, tough break for the kid

 

[KrillBee]

Originally posted by: James3shin
shouldn't have heisted those PS3s, tough break for the kid

shouldnt have shot an unarmed person, tough for the cops.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: KrillBee

Originally posted by: James3shin
shouldn't have heisted those PS3s, tough break for the kid

shouldnt have shot an unarmed person, tough for the cops.

Exactly. I'm normally a staunch supporter of Police Officers, but they fvcked up BIG TIME and they all need to be brought up on criminal charges and punished without leniency. (I know my spelling was off in this post).

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: DLeRium
Ok, you don't even fire shots through doors unless you're at war or something. This is not Waco. This is not even someone that's KNOWN to be armed.

Even if you were going in to arrest someone that's known to be armed, you would storm in first and maybe get in a firefight. Maybe even get SWAT to go in with tear gas or flashbangs. Maybe a utilize a riot shield? The point is, this is just excessive.

yeah. that last post by NSF really changed my mind.

shooting through the door? BEFORE going in? WTF?

for the record i do not try to go back on what i said early. the guy had commited a ARMED robbery so i could understand the shooting. but the new info blows it out.

So when he was unarmed, it was alright. But now that we know the cops shot him through the door, its not alright? I don't get it, there is no difference here. They shot him before verifying that he had a gun. Its the same thing, the new info makes no difference.

 

[James3shin]

lots of people are saying the cops fvcked up, but none of us we're there, this story is not so cut and dry. I'm not usually the type to say "don't believe everything you read," but this story is getting harder to believe...why would the cops start busting shots into the house with no warnings? Something is missing from these articles.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: James3shin
lots of people are saying the cops fvcked up, but none of us we're there, this story is not so cut and dry. I'm not usually the type to say don't believe everything you read, but this story is getting harder to believe...why would the cops start busting shots into the house with no warnings? Something is missing from these articles.

The fact that one of the deputies was INDICTED ON CHARGES OF SECOND DEGREE MURDER tell me that at least one person f*^ked up.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: James3shin
lots of people are saying the cops fvcked up, but none of us we're there, this story is not so cut and dry. I'm not usually the type to say "don't believe everything you read," but this story is getting harder to believe...why would the cops start busting shots into the house with no warnings? Something is missing from these articles.

thats probably why the cop is being charged with murder.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
No idea what happened, but if the kid WAS involved in armed robberies then he deserved death and I'm overjoyed about it.

This is good example of anarchy stupidity that causes far more problems than it solves. Nothing was ever proved that the kid "was involved in armed robberies" - remember that whole right to a fair trial and innocent until proven guilty thing? I hope to God/Allah/Insert-random-deities-here that people like you never ever get into a position where this sort of knee jerk reaction is acceptable, much less something to be "overjoyed" about.
A life was lost and even if the kid was 100% guilty of stealing, a death isn't something to be overjoyed about. That just speaks to the problems we still have as a culture; a problem that involves each and every single one of us: me, you, the cops, the criminals - all of us are part of the problem.

As others mentioned, the facts surrounding this situation are not known to us and are not very clear in that poorly written article. My first guy reaction is that the officers may have used unacceptable force, but I really do not know that for sure. Perhaps the dog did attack and a black PS3 controller could look like a handgun. If that is the case then I think the cops responded within reason. But, even if that was the case that surely isn't proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the kid was an armed robber.

Maybe the the kid was a thief, maybe he was completely innocent, but now we will never get a fair trial to determine the truth.

Which is why I didn't say I was overjoyed no matter what. I merely said that if he had committed armed robbery (or if he somehow threatened the police) that I was overjoyed about that. If not and the police were unjustified then I want justice against them.

I'm sick of criminals getting a free ride. Fvck em hard, fvck em quick. If you commit a serious crime I want you die quickly and get the hell off my planet. Few criminals have been through anything worse than I've been through in my life but I never infringed upon the life of another person for my own needs/wants/desires. That makes me a better person, period. *shrug* I don't care if you don't agree, that's how I feel.

Edit: oh, and trials don't prove anything. The justice system is totally broken. It's a game of law now, having nothing to do with right, truth, or justice.

2nd edit: I also wanted to point out that we're talking about armed robbery, not theft. Theft is a property crime, armed robbery is a crime of violence (imo). BIG difference.

You are a complete horse's ass.

 

[UDT89]

regardless...........

if you commit a crime, bad things can happen to you.

this kid happened to get killed. its not right by any means......but when you live a life of crime it catches up one way or another.

 

[James3shin]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: James3shin
lots of people are saying the cops fvcked up, but none of us we're there, this story is not so cut and dry. I'm not usually the type to say don't believe everything you read, but this story is getting harder to believe...why would the cops start busting shots into the house with no warnings? Something is missing from these articles.

The fact that one of the deputies was INDICTED ON CHARGES OF SECOND DEGREE MURDER tell me that at least one person f*^ked up.

The deputy is innocent until proven guilty. Also given the choice of who to believe, a cop or thief, I'd take a cop any day of the week. I'm going to say that we're missing details, the media has a problem with that at times.

 

[Mermaidman]

oops

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: James3shin

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: James3shin
lots of people are saying the cops fvcked up, but none of us we're there, this story is not so cut and dry. I'm not usually the type to say don't believe everything you read, but this story is getting harder to believe...why would the cops start busting shots into the house with no warnings? Something is missing from these articles.

The fact that one of the deputies was INDICTED ON CHARGES OF SECOND DEGREE MURDER tell me that at least one person f*^ked up.

The deputy is innocent until proven guilty. Also given the choice of who to believe, a cop or thief, I'd take a cop any day of the week. I'm going to say that we're missing details, the media has a problem with that at times.

Last time I checked, the "thief" was innocent until proven guilty as well.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: James3shin

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: James3shin
lots of people are saying the cops fvcked up, but none of us we're there, this story is not so cut and dry. I'm not usually the type to say don't believe everything you read, but this story is getting harder to believe...why would the cops start busting shots into the house with no warnings? Something is missing from these articles.

The fact that one of the deputies was INDICTED ON CHARGES OF SECOND DEGREE MURDER tell me that at least one person f*^ked up.

The deputy is innocent until proven guilty. Also given the choice of who to believe, a cop or thief, I'd take a cop any day of the week. I'm going to say that we're missing details, the media has a problem with that at times.

The kid isnt a thief until proven guilty either. But I see you've already proven his guilt. Would you care to share your findings? I'll tell you whats missing from these articles, an armed robber is missing.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Mermaidman
WTFLOL?!! Crazy development in this story:

A day after authorities announced that a former New Hanover County deputy had been indicted in the shooting death of a Durham teen during a raid on a Wilmington home, members of the grand jury now say the indictment was a mistake. The grand jury never intended to charge Cpl. Christopher Long with second-degree murder, but the foreman checked the wrong box on the indictment, authorities said Tuesday.

Poor cop's reputation already tarnished.

LOL, WTF???

Only in North Carolina!

 

[Mermaidman]

WTFLOL?!! Crazy development in this story:

A day after authorities announced that a former New Hanover County deputy had been indicted in the shooting death of a Durham teen during a raid on a Wilmington home, members of the grand jury now say the indictment was a mistake. The grand jury never intended to charge Cpl. Christopher Long with second-degree murder, but the foreman checked the wrong box on the indictment, authorities said Tuesday.

Poor cop's reputation already tarnished.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: iliopsoas
If this is truly the robber, he deserves it.

I just don't believe in killing people (capital punishment, etc)
Whatever

 

[James3shin]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: James3shin

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: James3shin
lots of people are saying the cops fvcked up, but none of us we're there, this story is not so cut and dry. I'm not usually the type to say don't believe everything you read, but this story is getting harder to believe...why would the cops start busting shots into the house with no warnings? Something is missing from these articles.

The fact that one of the deputies was INDICTED ON CHARGES OF SECOND DEGREE MURDER tell me that at least one person f*^ked up.

The deputy is innocent until proven guilty. Also given the choice of who to believe, a cop or thief, I'd take a cop any day of the week. I'm going to say that we're missing details, the media has a problem with that at times.

The kid isnt a thief until proven guilty either. But I see you've already proven his guilt. Would you care to share your findings? I'll tell you whats missing from these articles, an armed robber is missing.

Ok, so you're comparing the obvious to something that is blanketed in questions? Junior stole that 3, that's fact. "Barney Fife" also popped junior in the dome, that's fact as well, but what was the deputies reasoning for shooting into the house blind?

 

[James3shin]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Mermaidman
WTFLOL?!! Crazy development in this story:

A day after authorities announced that a former New Hanover County deputy had been indicted in the shooting death of a Durham teen during a raid on a Wilmington home, members of the grand jury now say the indictment was a mistake. The grand jury never intended to charge Cpl. Christopher Long with second-degree murder, but the foreman checked the wrong box on the indictment, authorities said Tuesday.

Poor cop's reputation already tarnished.

LOL, WTF???

Only in North Carolina!

Yeah laugh it up slim, you put that lock and key down real quick huh?

 

[KrillBee]

Originally posted by: Mermaidman
oops

why did you edit that out of your post?

that info is vital to the story!

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: James3shin

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: James3shin

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: James3shin
lots of people are saying the cops fvcked up, but none of us we're there, this story is not so cut and dry. I'm not usually the type to say don't believe everything you read, but this story is getting harder to believe...why would the cops start busting shots into the house with no warnings? Something is missing from these articles.

The fact that one of the deputies was INDICTED ON CHARGES OF SECOND DEGREE MURDER tell me that at least one person f*^ked up.

The deputy is innocent until proven guilty. Also given the choice of who to believe, a cop or thief, I'd take a cop any day of the week. I'm going to say that we're missing details, the media has a problem with that at times.

The kid isnt a thief until proven guilty either. But I see you've already proven his guilt. Would you care to share your findings? I'll tell you whats missing from these articles, an armed robber is missing.

Ok, so you're comparing the obvious to something that is blanketed in questions? Junior stole that 3, that's fact. "Barney Fife" also popped junior in the dome, that's fact as well, but what was the deputies reasoning for shooting into the house blind?

Ah you've convinced me. One less playstation controller wielding armed robbery committing playstation 3 thieving scumbag on the Earth, hurray!

 

[iamaelephant]

Okay, this is messed up. But we still have witnesses claiming shots were fired before the door was opened.

 

[James3shin]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: James3shin

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: James3shin

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: James3shin
lots of people are saying the cops fvcked up, but none of us we're there, this story is not so cut and dry. I'm not usually the type to say don't believe everything you read, but this story is getting harder to believe...why would the cops start busting shots into the house with no warnings? Something is missing from these articles.

The fact that one of the deputies was INDICTED ON CHARGES OF SECOND DEGREE MURDER tell me that at least one person f*^ked up.

The deputy is innocent until proven guilty. Also given the choice of who to believe, a cop or thief, I'd take a cop any day of the week. I'm going to say that we're missing details, the media has a problem with that at times.

The kid isnt a thief until proven guilty either. But I see you've already proven his guilt. Would you care to share your findings? I'll tell you whats missing from these articles, an armed robber is missing.

Ok, so you're comparing the obvious to something that is blanketed in questions? Junior stole that 3, that's fact. "Barney Fife" also popped junior in the dome, that's fact as well, but what was the deputies reasoning for shooting into the house blind?

Ah you've convinced me. One less playstation controller wielding armed robbery committing playstation 3 thieving scumbag on the Earth, hurray!

And you saw junior answer the door with a PS3 in hand after getting shot at? That sounds so wrong, I know if I hear shots, I either RUN or just DROP to the ground, I sure as hell wouldn't be holding onto a PS3 controller.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: AaronB
Geez, this is yet another case where we have two different groups of people shouting their views without enough information to form an educated opinion.

Based on that article, events could have transpired that would make the officer a murderer or a hero. No one here has any real idea what happened and arguing over it is retarded.

:thumbsup:
There are too many unanswered questions.