UPDATE: Cops shoot alleged Playstation3 robber to DEATH

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James3shin

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: AaronB
Geez, this is yet another case where we have two different groups of people shouting their views without enough information to form an educated opinion.

Based on that article, events could have transpired that would make the officer a murderer or a hero. No one here has any real idea what happened and arguing over it is retarded.

:thumbsup:
There are too many unanswered questions.

That's right.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: James3shin
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: AaronB
Geez, this is yet another case where we have two different groups of people shouting their views without enough information to form an educated opinion.

Based on that article, events could have transpired that would make the officer a murderer or a hero. No one here has any real idea what happened and arguing over it is retarded.

:thumbsup:
There are too many unanswered questions.

That's right.

If the officers did indeed fire through a closed door:

At best, it's bad police work to fire through a closed door, not knowing the conditions on the other side. At worst, it's criminal. Either way, the police fvcked up big time.
 
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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
No idea what happened, but if the kid WAS involved in armed robberies then he deserved death and I'm overjoyed about it.

This is good example of anarchy stupidity that causes far more problems than it solves. Nothing was ever proved that the kid "was involved in armed robberies" - remember that whole right to a fair trial and innocent until proven guilty thing? I hope to God/Allah/Insert-random-deities-here that people like you never ever get into a position where this sort of knee jerk reaction is acceptable, much less something to be "overjoyed" about.
A life was lost and even if the kid was 100% guilty of stealing, a death isn't something to be overjoyed about. That just speaks to the problems we still have as a culture; a problem that involves each and every single one of us: me, you, the cops, the criminals - all of us are part of the problem.

As others mentioned, the facts surrounding this situation are not known to us and are not very clear in that poorly written article. My first guy reaction is that the officers may have used unacceptable force, but I really do not know that for sure. Perhaps the dog did attack and a black PS3 controller could look like a handgun. If that is the case then I think the cops responded within reason. But, even if that was the case that surely isn't proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the kid was an armed robber.

Maybe the the kid was a thief, maybe he was completely innocent, but now we will never get a fair trial to determine the truth.

Which is why I didn't say I was overjoyed no matter what. I merely said that if he had committed armed robbery (or if he somehow threatened the police) that I was overjoyed about that. If not and the police were unjustified then I want justice against them.

I'm sick of criminals getting a free ride. Fvck em hard, fvck em quick. If you commit a serious crime I want you die quickly and get the hell off my planet. Few criminals have been through anything worse than I've been through in my life but I never infringed upon the life of another person for my own needs/wants/desires. That makes me a better person, period. *shrug* I don't care if you don't agree, that's how I feel.

Edit: oh, and trials don't prove anything. The justice system is totally broken. It's a game of law now, having nothing to do with right, truth, or justice.

2nd edit: I also wanted to point out that we're talking about armed robbery, not theft. Theft is a property crime, armed robbery is a crime of violence (imo). BIG difference.

You are a complete horse's ass.

Admitted openly and without reservation. That fact doesn't change reality however.
 

KrillBee

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i cant beleive that article says that the murder indictment was false.
how do they indict someone by accident?

and besides that cop should have been indicted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

randay

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This just in, it was a screen door, serveral police officers were shot by the suspect also the kid was a drug dealer and high on ice wearing dead babies around his neck.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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What a fvcked up case. they indict him then find out it was a mess up by the jury. they checked the wrong box.

damn.

what a mess
 

Hyperlite

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how the hell do you indict someone on accident?

"....we find the defendant guilty. oh wait, jk, i mean not guilty." :confused:
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Hyperlite
how the hell do you indict someone on accident?

"....we find the defendant guilty. oh wait, jk, i mean not guilty." :confused:

actually how it is setup i am suprised not more get falsy charged. From CNN article

"A copy of the indictment filed as evidence Tuesday shows a check next to "true bill" indictment, with a heavy mark made through "not a true bill," followed by what appears to be the foreman's initials and Tuesday's date.

When a grand jury wants a murder indictment, it returns a "true bill." When it decides it does not want to issue an indictment, it returns "not a true bill."



 

NFS4

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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/...ION_THEFT_NCOL-?SITE=WNCNTV&SECTION=US
One of Strickland's roommates has said he may have been holding a video game controller when he went to the door. David said Monday that Long believed he heard gunfire when a police battering ram hit the door of Strickland's home, a belief not shared by his fellow officers who did not fire.

"He based his decision on his law enforcement training," McGuinness said Tuesday. "The fact that he shot was not a mistake. It was based on his belief that he was being fired upon."
Seriously. WTF????????????????????????? I'm no expert, but I'd say that the indictment should stay in play
 

touchmyichi

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I'm a little disturbed by the lack of sensitivity here. You guys think too much in black and white, thieves are humans as well. There's reasons why they do these things, some are desperate, others are misinformed, and so on. People can be corrected (especially with how young this guy was) and grow out of these things to become contributing members of society. I'm obviously not saying that stealing the PS3 was right, but at the same time don't celebrate over the death of some guy. There's always an alternative to violence, its a shame the cops in this case couldn't find one.