UPDATE: Cops shoot alleged Playstation3 robber to DEATH

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jammur21

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Should be pretty easy to prove if they stole the PS3's. The robbery victim's receipt and the sale record at the store should have the serial numbers on them. We'll see if the PS3 in th eapartment matches
 

FilmCamera

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Just a bad situation really. Perhaps the dog rushed at the cops, one cop fired at the dog, and the other cops thinking it was at the person and followed suit or something. Who knows what really happened.

You can't say that he was the theif based on the article. If he was, then I don't feel too bad for him. Regardless if he was or wasn't the cop will have to live with it the rest of his life and for most of them it is not an easy thing.
 

Mermaidman

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Reminder--the article contains a lot of quotes from the alleged robber's friends and family. They MIGHT be biased.
 

Gunslinger08

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Based on the article, the University/local government will be paying quite a bit of money in a wrongful death suit.

No one who isn't posing a serious risk to the lives of others should be shot. Atleast not shot more than once. This is ridiculous. Even if he did steal the PS3, so what? He doesn't deserve to die. Send him to prison for a few years. Sounds like a stupid kid mistake. We all get into some sort of trouble when we're young.
 
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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Meh

That article wasnt very good at conveying the facts.

University and local police raid a house inhabited by a suspect in a robbery. The suspect is unarmed and is shot (in his apartment) five times (and they killed his little dog too, hehehehe).

I guess I missed the part where it said he was unarmed.

Yup. Now here OWNED guns, but they were not near him, not in his hands, and not used in the (alleged) robbery.

Sorry, but this is looking more and more like at least manslaughter on the part of the officers.

Sure because the article only mentions the events in the eyes of the guy's friends, who are going to say he wasn't armed and posed no threat. The guy was under suspession of armed robbery and aggrivated assualt. The cops are going to gingerly walk in and ask to look around, they are dealing with someone that is willing to beat someone down to get a video game.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Meh

That article wasnt very good at conveying the facts.

University and local police raid a house inhabited by a suspect in a robbery. The suspect is unarmed and is shot (in his apartment) five times (and they killed his little dog too, hehehehe).

I guess I missed the part where it said he was unarmed.

Yup. Now here OWNED guns, but they were not near him, not in his hands, and not used in the (alleged) robbery.

Sorry, but this is looking more and more like at least manslaughter on the part of the officers.

hmm maybe I misunderstood what "
UNCW Police planned to arrest Strickland on charges of armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon and breaking and entering." meant.

see i think it says that he commited the robbery and assaultes someoen with a weapon. if so that yeah he may have had the weapon on him at the time.
 

mercanucaribe

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It's like all these cracka cops know how to do is shoot
The only crackas I like is the ones that come with soup
 

Atheus

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There are some very archaic views expressed here.

To the 'one less thief' people:

Are you aware that there have been, and still are, societies which do hand out the death penalty for petty crimes without a trial? Do you admire those societies, and do you want your own society to emulate them? These societies include communist China and the ancient Romans. Think carefully before answering this question.

Have you, I wonder, ever driven your car above the speed limit? I suspect that you have - this is a very socially acceptable crime - and yet the potential for harm to come from it is much greater than the potential harm done by stealing a playstation. Do you believe the death penalty should also he handed out for speeding? Without a trial?

Lastly, I wonder how you would feel if this was your child who was killed? I can only assume, if you are being consistent, that you would gladly shoot your own child 5 times in punishment for this crime.
 

Kelvrick

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Based on the article, the University/local government will be paying quite a bit of money in a wrongful death suit.

No one who isn't posing a serious risk to the lives of others should be shot. Atleast not shot more than once. This is ridiculous. Even if he did steal the PS3, so what? He doesn't deserve to die. Send him to prison for a few years. Sounds like a stupid kid mistake. We all get into some sort of trouble when we're young.

I'm agreeing with you, but I see how he could have been shot 5 times. A german shepherd isn't some little chihuahua you can shake off. If it did attack, the cop could have been defending himself and well, when you pull a gun, you make damn sure you don't stop shooting until the danger to you is dead.

If there was more hten one cop involved, each could have fired a couple shots before the guy and dog went down. I don't think the article mentioned how many shots total were fired.
 

episodic

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Sadly, once a crime is committed, there is always this 'chance'. Now, if no crime was committed, it was a travesty.
 
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No idea what happened, but if the kid WAS involved in armed robberies then he deserved death and I'm overjoyed about it.
 

dpopiz

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i love how these days i can pretend everything is a movie/videogame because ****** like this is too crazy for my mind to comprehend
hello virtual world!
 

AaronB

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Geez, this is yet another case where we have two different groups of people shouting their views without enough information to form an educated opinion.

Based on that article, events could have transpired that would make the officer a murderer or a hero. No one here has any real idea what happened and arguing over it is retarded.
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

It's like all these cracka cops know how to do is shoot
The only crackas I like is the ones that come with soup

racist much? :roll:
 

HamburgerBoy

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Assuming he was guilty he deserved to be shot. The article sucks though so we probably won't know in a while.
 

miri

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Based on the article, the University/local government will be paying quite a bit of money in a wrongful death suit.

No one who isn't posing a serious risk to the lives of others should be shot. Atleast not shot more than once. This is ridiculous. Even if he did steal the PS3, so what? He doesn't deserve to die. Send him to prison for a few years. Sounds like a stupid kid mistake. We all get into some sort of trouble when we're young.

Assault with a deadly weapon, did you miss that part? It is not just a simple theft.
 

sponge008

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I'm really amazed at how intolerant ATOT is..."WOOHOO KILL ALL THE CRIMINALS!!!". Do you realize that most people have violated the law multiple times, either nowing or not? Also, do you think a reckless driver or petty thief MIGHT learn their lesson from jail? ALso, would these same people act the same way they did if they knew that no matter how many more crimes they committed, they would get the same punishment? Example: kid smokes weed at a party. Under current law, kid does community service or something of the sort, and possibly doesn't do weed again, not that smoking weed is a legitimate crime in my eyes. Under these Draconian laws, the kid would go on a run from police when caught, klling everything in his path. Imagine the carnage ensuing if every single arrest became a fight to the death with no concern for innocent victims.
Think before you speak.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
"A U.S. Department of Justice report released this week revealed that, as of December 2005, one in every 32 adult Americans is under some form of correctional supervision. But in Georgia, that number now is one in 15."

http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20061203/localnews/141506.shtml

all the prisons need to be closed, they don't work

yes lets release all the rapiest, murder's and such. i think thats a good idea.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: waggy
yes lets release all the rapiest, murder's and such. i think thats a good idea.

No, we should just execute them. No point in wasting money on some degenerate just so he can rot in a room for sixty years.
 

sponge008

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: waggy
yes lets release all the rapiest, murder's and such. i think thats a good idea.

No, we should just execute them. No point in wasting money on some degenerate just so he can rot in a room for sixty years.

It's far cheaper to pay for prison than to put up with rampaging serial murderers instead of cat burglars.
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
No idea what happened, but if the kid WAS involved in armed robberies then he deserved death and I'm overjoyed about it.

This is good example of anarchy stupidity that causes far more problems than it solves. Nothing was ever proved that the kid "was involved in armed robberies" - remember that whole right to a fair trial and innocent until proven guilty thing? I hope to God/Allah/Insert-random-deities-here that people like you never ever get into a position where this sort of knee jerk reaction is acceptable, much less something to be "overjoyed" about.
A life was lost and even if the kid was 100% guilty of stealing, a death isn't something to be overjoyed about. That just speaks to the problems we still have as a culture; a problem that involves each and every single one of us: me, you, the cops, the criminals - all of us are part of the problem.

As others mentioned, the facts surrounding this situation are not known to us and are not very clear in that poorly written article. My first guy reaction is that the officers may have used unacceptable force, but I really do not know that for sure. Perhaps the dog did attack and a black PS3 controller could look like a handgun. If that is the case then I think the cops responded within reason. But, even if that was the case that surely isn't proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the kid was an armed robber.

Maybe the the kid was a thief, maybe he was completely innocent, but now we will never get a fair trial to determine the truth.