That's a little strong as far as a criticism of Beltran goes, but Boras is a miserable bag of sh!t.
Andy Pettitte is another example, now that you mention him. He accepted significantly less money to play for the team he desired. Roger Clemens accepted about $10M less to play in Houston than he could have commanded on the open market. Jeff Kent accepted $2M less per year to play in Houston than other teams had offered him. I can give you many, many examples with other teams around the league.
Some stars lust after the highest bid, but most stars don't. With most players, there are other factors that more heavily influence their decision.
Beltran, the whore, is of anything but decent character. He's another prima donna that's trying to milk the game for all it's worth. Screw him.
Boras is NOT just being an agent. There are many agents in baseball and 99% are well-respected. Boras is the single agent who is constantly accused of foul play. The scoundrel doesn't have an ethical bone in his yellow body. Screw him.
And yes, several teams have complained about Boras. And a few of those have vowed to never do business with him again. The Chicago White Sox recently indicated that they would never even consider another player who's represented by Scott Boras, including their current right fielder, Magglio Ordonez. Management indicated that they have no interest in re-signing Ordonez as long as Boras is his agent. There are damn good reasons why Boras is one of the most hated men in baseball. Screw him.
Some stars lust after the highest bid, but most stars don't. With most players, there are other factors that more heavily influence their decision.
Beltran, the whore, is of anything but decent character. He's another prima donna that's trying to milk the game for all it's worth. Screw him.
Boras is NOT just being an agent. There are many agents in baseball and 99% are well-respected. Boras is the single agent who is constantly accused of foul play. The scoundrel doesn't have an ethical bone in his yellow body. Screw him.
And yes, several teams have complained about Boras. And a few of those have vowed to never do business with him again. The Chicago White Sox recently indicated that they would never even consider another player who's represented by Scott Boras, including their current right fielder, Magglio Ordonez. Management indicated that they have no interest in re-signing Ordonez as long as Boras is his agent. There are damn good reasons why Boras is one of the most hated men in baseball. Screw him.
Why should Beltran give Houston a discount? He doesn't really owe them anything for a couple of months of fantastic service.
It was not about that. If he did not want to return to Houston, give the Stros a chance to go after Delgado, Alou, JD Drew, anyone...
Stringing Houston along is just crappy.
How do you know he was stringing Houston along? Perhaps he would have came back if Houston had the best offer or if Houston would have given him a full no trade clause like he wanted.
And they still have a chance to go after Delgado.
Beltran didn't owe Houston a damn thing other than straightforward, honest negotiations. No discount was expected. Boras and his whore are the ones who indicated early on that Carlos wasn't going to simply chase the highest bid. They lied about this as they did other things.
My, looks like you are quite angry. Perhaps the Astros should have provided more incentives and a no trade clause.
If Beltran doesn't owe the Astros anything then he should simply do what is best for himself.
Bullshit. Thanks for reinforcing the point that Beltran is nothing but a money-grubbing whore. If Carlos wanted a no-trade clause, then that should have been made known by his agent months ago. According to Houston, it was never an issue until 2 hours prior to the deadline last night. Just another one of Boras' tricks.
And why on earth would Houston want Delgado? They aren't paying Bagwell $17M a year to shag balls at batting practice.
Primma donnas like the Puerto Rican Whore always make me angry.
You don't call 7 years and $105+ Million an incentive? If he wanted a no-trade clause, then he should have asked for one early on. The Astros offered him a limited-trade clause consisting of 5 teams of his choice. That's pretty damn fair by most everybody's standards. The trade clause was a non-issue, in reality.
If Beltran wanted to do what was best for himself, he would have went anywhere but Queens. When he became a free agent, he indicated what was important to him in a team and a city. The Mets are about as opposite of what he said he was looking for as you can possibly get. He lied then and he lied now. He chased the highest bid like a cheap whore.
Also consider that with no state tax the Houston offer was about equal to the New York offer. Of course Boras' cut would have been less taxes or no. Either Beltran allowed himself to be manipulated into doing something he really didn't want or he's a money grubbing whore. I tend to believe the latter and so do the Houston fans.
You are supposing quite a bit yourself. The deal with the Mets after the Astros were eliminated... almost immediately - indicates that Boras was using the Astros offer as leverage to cut a better deal with the Yankees or the Mets.
All reports indicate that Houston was in it until the last minute when New York upped their offer to 119.
The Astros were waiting on Beltran, and did not hear back until after the deadline passed. Looks like all the dealing was with the Mets at that point. Does not look like the Astros got the opportunity to match the Mets.
Boras is a piece of sh!t.
another example of a star that took less than he could have on the open market is Andruw Jones, altho he doesn't look like such a bargain now, at the time, when ARod got his contract etc, baseball free agents were going at a premium. Andruw went in without his agent and struck a deal with braves management (i think boras was his agent at the time, no longer).
McLane talked to Boras right before the deadline and had to opportunity to up their offer. The simple fact was they were too far apart.
Why? For doing a good job? He got Texas to bid against themselves a few years ago for AROD. He got the Met's to bid roughly 15-20 million more than the next bidder for Beltran. He's a great agent and gets the best deal he can for his clients, period.
There are a lot of teams that do not do business anymore with Boras. He has a terrible reputation in baseball.
If I were a Gm I wouldn't want to deal with him either. But each year he still represents top free agents and get's top dollar for them.
Thanks for reinforcing the point that you're just bitter and think that having a few months of service under one team deserves undying loyalty.
I have no idea why Houston would want Hidalgo - someone else brought him up.
I enjoy how someone who only served a short time with your team and decides to leave your team is now a 'primma donna' and a 'Puero Rican Whore'.
Sure, it's an incentive but obviously not enough. We have no idea if he made it clear or not if he wanted a no trade clause. If it was a non-issue, then Houston should have offered one.
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I love how Houston fans are mad at Beltran. Sure, he took the most money he can get as would 99.9% of the people in his shoes. Loyalty, my ass. Teams are not loyal to their players, why should players be loyal to teams? Face it, baseball is a business, not a just a feel-good game anymore. The teams usually operate as a a business (without loyalty to a player), why should the players be any different? He's entitled to go get as much money as he can, and most of us would do the exact same thing. To think that he owes Houston something is ridiculous. If anything, the Astros owe HIM something. He almost brought them to the big show singlehandedly. Why didn't THEY offer him the most out of loyalty? Because it's a business. He's entitled to do the same.
But he was there for a couple of months! Just think about it!!!! Waaaahhh, wahhhhh, beltran = whore! wahhhhhh!
You guys aren't understanding something. Beltran himself said it was not about the money. You think Houston fans don't have a reason to be upset when he does the opposite of what he says? It's become clear that he never intended to sign with Houston choosing instead to use us to get more money from the Yankees or Mets. All this time he strung along the Astros hoping for more money. Even now they spread lies that the deal broke down because of a no trade clause. Do you honestly think the Astros would allow a big deal like this to not happen because of a no trade clause? Even freaking Jeff Kent got a no trade clause when he signed here. And really what is the difference between 7/105 without state tax and 7/119 with NY state tax? Not freaking much. The truth is he never intended to play here and decided to ruin a franchise for the next couple seasons to get a few more million for his agent. That is what is so upsetting.
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