UPDATE: Angry Right-Winger Who Shot at Cops Admits He Wanted A Revolution

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nick1985

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You're the one whose words explictly advocate blowing up the Pentagon or another government building, but you can't prove any of your idiotic rant about Perknose, any member of the Obama Administration or even "a close personal friend" of Obama.

In other words, you're still the same lame ass lying, paranoid loser you've always been with nothing to say and far too many words to say it. :rolleyes:

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Fear Evoking Absurd Reactionary Nonsense Obviously Entirely Void In Logic


..and you are still a foaming-at-the-mouth fucktard.
 

JSt0rm

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loloololololol...

Ahh I remember back all of one week when half the board was all gung ho about revolution. There you go. Revolution. Please join him.
 

Lemon law

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I have to be really baffled how this thread and thread title of, "Angry Right-Winger Who Shot at Cops admits He Wanted A Revolution", could possibly go on and on for six P&N pages. Face the facts, it says nothing good about this forum.

Who on this forum is crazy enough to think we can learn anything from a crazed nut?

The fact that the crazed nut shared a delusion of all other similar nuts of all political stripes, and somehow thought that his lone nutty act of violence would somehow ignite a revolution and strike a cord and did not, is final testament to the fact that he is a lone nut among millions of the Americans people who don't share his delusion is any way.

Six forum pages? Need I say more. Move along move along, there is nothing to learn from a nut that can profit anyone who hopes to hold on to a semblance of their own rationality. Sadly, innocent people were hurt in the process even if the nut is now finally off the street.
 
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Infohawk

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The fact that the crazed nut shared a delusion of all other similar nuts of all political stripes, and somehow thought that his lone nutty act of violence would somehow ignite a revolution and strike a cord and did not, is final testament to the fact that he is a lone nut among millions of the Americans people who don't share his delusion is any way.

This logic can be used to apologize for extremist islam too. After all, it's only a bunch of crazy people blowing themselves up, right? Not about the actual religion right? Wrong. People's beliefs push them to action. (And no for reading comprehension retards I'm not saying all conservative beliefs necessarily lead to violence.)

But I do have more respect for people that apply the insanity defense across the board as opposed to just conservatives or just muslims.

PS And you of all people need to think twice about getting preachy about this forum. LOL.
 
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nobodyknows

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This logic can be used to apologize for extremist islam too. After all, it's only a bunch of crazy people blowing themselves up, right? Not about the actual religion right? Wrong. People's beliefs push them to action. (And no for reading comprehension retards I'm not saying all conservative beliefs necessarily lead to violence.)

But I do have more respect for people that apply the insanity defense across the board as opposed to just conservatives or just muslims.

PS And you of all people need to think twice about getting preachy about this forum. LOL.

You're comparing apples to oranges. This was one lone nut, not an organized group. That Muslim sucide bomber may be just as delusional as this guy was, but he was directed by people who are not.
 

Infohawk

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You're comparing apples to oranges. This was one lone nut, not an organized group. That Muslim sucide bomber may be just as delusional as this guy was, but he was directed by people who are not.

Already addressed this argument with regards to Nick. Not buying it.
 

Fear No Evil

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Buu..Buu..Boooosh!!:rolleyes:

Fine, I'll rephrase:

Its amazing the spin the left needs to put on situations like this in order to try to demonize the right.. yet they CELEBRATE the terrorists and traitors in their midst. I guess when your President is making Jimmy Carter look like a great leader you have to resort to attacks like these.
 

Fear No Evil

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You're the one whose words explictly advocate blowing up the Pentagon or another government building, but you can't prove any of your idiotic rant about Perknose, any member of the Obama Administration or even "a close personal friend" of Obama.

In other words, you're still the same lame ass lying, paranoid loser you've always been with nothing to say and far too many words to say it. :rolleyes:

LOL. Perk unable to defend himself? Did he give you a call and tell you I was picking on him? Or did he just walk down to the basement and tell you? :D
 

Zebo

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This logic can be used to apologize for extremist islam too. After all, it's only a bunch of crazy people blowing themselves up, right? Not about the actual religion right? Wrong. People's beliefs push them to action. (And no for reading comprehension retards I'm not saying all conservative beliefs necessarily lead to violence.)

But I do have more respect for people that apply the insanity defense across the board as opposed to just conservatives or just muslims.

PS And you of all people need to think twice about getting preachy about this forum. LOL.
Like hell it can. Only a retarded person would compare them.

This man was a career loser acting alone.

Muslim fundi terrorists are doctors, engineers etc financed and manipulated by forces aboard and texts and tenants of Islam

Pray tell where is the this guys financing, where is his motivation coming from? Who told him its okay to shoot infidels (liberals)? Where are the cells and organization? This fool could not even organize a check book.
 
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Infohawk

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Like hell it can. Only a retarded person would compare them.

This man was a career loser acting alone.

Muslim fundi terrorists are doctors, engineers etc financed and manipulated by forces aboard and texts and tenants of Islam

Pray tell where is the this guys financing, where is his motivation coming from? Who told him its okay to shoot infidels (liberals)? Where are the cells and organization? This fool could not even organize a check book.

I don't think you read my response to Nick...

Do you think Husam Taysir Dwayat would have killed Israelis if it wasn't for islamic fundamentalism? His girlfriend said it was his sanity, but again, why Israelis? Because of his beliefs. Why was this guy rushing towards SF? A random crazy guy would have just attacked people near him. No he chose his targets for idealogical reasons.

It really takes severe intellectual dishonesty to say this attempted crime was not motivated by political ideology.
 
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Harvey

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LOL. Perk unable to defend himself? Did he give you a call and tell you I was picking on him? Or did he just walk down to the basement and tell you? :D

Nah. It was just me quoting the words you posted, show you for what you are, the same lame ass lying, paranoid loser you've always been with nothing to say and far too many words to say it.

You posted:

This guy should have tried to blow up the pentagon or other government buildings.

That puts you in the company of real foriegn terrorists like Al Qaeda, who actually did attack the Pentagon, along with the World Trade Center, and real American born terrorists like Timothy McVeigh, who blew up the Murrah Office Building in Oklahoma City.

The only other people I can imagine making such a statement would be very sick, very disturbed individuals who are too dangerously whack to allow to run free in public.

Which are you? :confused:

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He'd be a hero to Perknose and his ilk and probably a member of the Obama Administration or at least a close personal friend.

You STILL can't prove any of your idiotic rant about Perknose, any member of the Obama Administration or even "a close personal friend" of Obama. Instead, you think you can divert attention from our own stupidity by attacking me for posting the truth about your lying wingnut ass. :rolleyes:
 
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Zebo

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I don't think you read my response to Nick...

Do you think Husam Taysir Dwayat would have killed Israelis if it wasn't for islamic fundamentalism? His girlfriend said it was his sanity, but again, why Israelis? Because of his beliefs. Why was this guy rushing towards SF? A random crazy guy would have just attacked people near him. No he chose his targets for idealogical reasons.

It really takes severe intellectual dishonesty to say this attempted crime was not motivated by political ideology.
I'll have to disagree. There is nothing in conservative ideology that says they must kill those they don't agree with or that don't cotton to their line of thought. There are no conservative leaders saying go kill liberals and rob banks. His ideology was craziness. He was a deadbeat loser who found something to blame for his fucked up life and lashed out.

If this where a liberal I'd say same thing. And have.

Muslims OTOH are hardly ever losers but educated, highly. There are fatwas from religious leaders advocating terror. The Holy Qu'ran advocates terror. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
 
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bfdd

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Clearly a douche bag. This is not how revolutions start, this is how we weed out the crazies.
 

werepossum

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I have to be really baffled how this thread and thread title of, "Angry Right-Winger Who Shot at Cops admits He Wanted A Revolution", could possibly go on and on for six P&N pages. Face the facts, it says nothing good about this forum.

Who on this forum is crazy enough to think we can learn anything from a crazed nut?

The fact that the crazed nut shared a delusion of all other similar nuts of all political stripes, and somehow thought that his lone nutty act of violence would somehow ignite a revolution and strike a cord and did not, is final testament to the fact that he is a lone nut among millions of the Americans people who don't share his delusion is any way.

Six forum pages? Need I say more. Move along move along, there is nothing to learn from a nut that can profit anyone who hopes to hold on to a semblance of their own rationality. Sadly, innocent people were hurt in the process even if the nut is now finally off the street.

Excellent points.
 

Lemon law

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I can scares believe my eyes as Zebo say, "Muslims OTOH are hardly ever losers but educated, highly. There are fatwas from religious leaders advocating terror. The Holy Qu'ran advocates terror. HUGE DIFFERENCE."

Earth to Zebo, have you ever read the old testimony of the Israeli bible? The history is there to all to see, as the Israeli tribes delighted in their own terrorism and brutality to those weaker than they were, and then cried bitter tears when some real deal ancient power kicked their ass.

At the end of the day, the Israeli old testament leaves little room for you to call the kettle black. But point granted, neither Israeli or Islamic jihad doctrine have a damn thing virtue to stand on in a modern world, but if anything, at the present time, Israel is the greatest present insult to human virtue.

But in the last thousand years, in terms of human depravity, Christians are the greatest villains, Muslims stand as a distant second, and Israel is now doing everything to become the new number one, even if they are playing Jonney come lately catch up football.

The last 2000 years of human history is more than enough to gag every maggot in the world regardless of which rotten and totally rapscallion human religion anyone wants to champion, the point being, we cannot change the past, we can only improve the future.

Or to put it another way, proving the abuses of Islam, Christianity , or Judaism are rotten religions that no one in their right minds should support is a slam dunk case with infinite past and present evidence to back anyone who wants to prove their case. But the problem is and becomes, demonizing one religion does zero to elevate
the the other religions. And somehow disguises the fact that all three religions have virtues also.
 

Fear No Evil

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Nah. It was just me quoting the words you posted, show you for what you are, the same lame ass lying, paranoid loser you've always been with nothing to say and far too many words to say it.

You posted:



That puts you in the company of real foriegn terrorists like Al Qaeda, who actually did attack the Pentagon, along with the World Trade Center, and real American born terrorists like Timothy McVeigh, who blew up the Murrah Office Building in Oklahoma City.

The only other people I can imagine making such a statement would be very sick, very disturbed individuals who are too dangerously whack to allow to run free in public.

Which are you? :confused:

You posted:



You STILL can't prove any of your idiotic rant about Perknose, any member of the Obama Administration or even "a close personal friend" of Obama. Instead, you think you can divert attention from our own stupidity by attacking me for posting the truth about your lying wingnut ass. :rolleyes:

Its funny that a traitor is calling me a liar.. But whatever. Clearly context is important, and you taking me OUT of context makes YOU a liar in addition to being a traitor.

The fact that you even try to compare me to Al Qaeda simply proves my point that people like you will put politics before ANYTHING, including terrorism. You look the other way on terrorists in your OWN political party because, I can only conclude, you SUPPORT such actions.

Of course I wasn't telling anyone to attack government buildings. I was saying that IF they did, they would be a hero to many here on the left. Just as history has proven with people like Bill Ayers, a close personal friend of Obama.

You might want to roll over and let Perknose fight his own battles. I don't have to prove a fucking thing to worthless sub-human POS's like yourself. If you can find a post from Perknose condemning a left-wing terrorist like Bill Ayers, I'll concede your point. Short of that, my assertation STANDS.. Perknose would be completely accepting of this guy had he been a left wing loon who tried to blow up buildings in the name of environmentalism, anti-war, global warming.. whatever.
 

Zebo

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I can scares believe my eyes as Zebo say, "Muslims OTOH are hardly ever losers but educated, highly. There are fatwas from religious leaders advocating terror. The Holy Qu'ran advocates terror. HUGE DIFFERENCE."

Earth to Zebo, have you ever read the old testimony of the Israeli bible? The history is there to all to see, as the Israeli tribes delighted in their own terrorism and brutality to those weaker than they were, and then cried bitter tears when some real deal ancient power kicked their ass.

At the end of the day, the Israeli old testament leaves little room for you to call the kettle black. But point granted, neither Israeli or Islamic jihad doctrine have a damn thing virtue to stand on in a modern world, but if anything, at the present time, Israel is the greatest present insult to human virtue.

But in the last thousand years, in terms of human depravity, Christians are the greatest villains, Muslims stand as a distant second, and Israel is now doing everything to become the new number one, even if they are playing Jonney come lately catch up football.

The last 2000 years of human history is more than enough to gag every maggot in the world regardless of which rotten and totally rapscallion human religion anyone wants to champion, the point being, we cannot change the past, we can only improve the future.

Or to put it another way, proving the abuses of Islam, Christianity , or Judaism are rotten religions that no one in their right minds should support is a slam dunk case with infinite past and present evidence to back anyone who wants to prove their case. But the problem is and becomes, demonizing one religion does zero to elevate
the the other religions. And somehow disguises the fact that all three religions have virtues also.
LL - it's a matter of scale, you don't have to tell me all religions are fucked up I know that, I also know some parts are emphasized and abused and some parts forgotten. I also know it's a tiny minority of extremists. So what? Fact is on a grand scale TODAY people are using the Qu'ran to murder and violate human rights worldwide. Not The Torah, The Holy Bible, The Bagved Gita, or The Book or Morman. Deal with it.

I live in current times not the past, you obviously don't either with ridiculous statements like this:"But in the last thousand years, in terms of human depravity, Christians are the greatest villains" LOL study up on the up to 1979, 1400 year Arabic slave trade or the Islamic imperialism in India where tens of millions were killed not to mention everyplace else that fell under the crescent of Islam. Christians were bad, especially in America's but not that bad.
 
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Infohawk

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I'll have to disagree. There is nothing in conservative ideology that says they must kill those they don't agree with or that don't cotton to their line of thought. There are no conservative leaders saying go kill liberals and rob banks. His ideology was craziness. He was a deadbeat loser who found something to blame for his fucked up life and lashed out.

If this where a liberal I'd say same thing. And have.

Muslims OTOH are hardly ever losers but educated, highly. There are fatwas from religious leaders advocating terror. The Holy Qu'ran advocates terror. HUGE DIFFERENCE.

You're picking and choosing. There are Muslims who don't interpret the Quran the way you do. And do you really doubt there is extreme conservative media out there that doesn't advocate violence? Also, your portrayal of Muslim terrorists is bizarre. Was Richard Reid not a loser? Do you really doubt that a psychologist couldn't have found problems with his mental state? He had problems with depression after all.

The suspect here admits he was politically motivated. People are bending over backwards to deny that fact. Again, nobody is saying all right-wingers are violent. But this one was and he isn't the first or the last. Reality sucks sometimes.
 

ericlp

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wow, this thread is sure bring out all the hard core right winged freaks. Ah well... joy's and fun reading p&n.. :)
 

Red Dawn

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Perknose would be completely accepting of this guy had he been a left wing loon who tried to blow up buildings in the name of environmentalism, anti-war, global warming.. whatever.
I haven't seen any indication that he would just like I haven't seen any indication that those ion the Right, even Spidey07, who support what this guy did. I think your personal beef with Perknose has sent you a little over the edge.