UPDATE: Angry Right-Winger Who Shot at Cops Admits He Wanted A Revolution

[Fear No Evil]

I haven't seen any indication that he would just like I haven't seen any indication that those ion the Right, even Spidey07, who support what this guy did. I think your personal beef with Perknose has sent you a little over the edge.

Perknose often takes things way over the line, I respond in kind.. often to make a point.. Thats kind of the nice thing about the internet. He can make insane lunatic rantings and accusations. I can response with facts and reason.. :twisted:

My mental state is fine. No worse than your BDS.. But according to your close personal friend Harvey I am apparently as evil as Al Qaeda, Tim McVeigh, etc. Its funny how you don't accuse him of being 'over the edge'? Or is that pretty much just a given now?

 

[Red Dawn]

Perknose often takes things way over the line, I respond in kind.. often to make a point.. Thats kind of the nice thing about the internet. He can make insane lunatic rantings and accusations. I can response with facts and reason.. :twisted:

Well then try doing it for once.

My mental state is fine. No worse than your BDS.. But according to your close personal friend Harvey I am apparently as evil as Al Qaeda, Tim McVeigh, etc. Its funny how you don't accuse him of being 'over the edge'? Or is that pretty much just a given now?

bu..bu..Boooosh

 

[Harvey]

Its funny that a traitor is calling me a liar.. But whatever. Clearly context is important, and you taking me OUT of context makes YOU a liar in addition to being a traitor.

The fact that you even try to compare me to Al Qaeda simply proves my point that people like you will put politics before ANYTHING, including terrorism. You look the other way on terrorists in your OWN political party because, I can only conclude, you SUPPORT such actions.

I do??? Prove that, or once again, you are a liar.

Of course I wasn't telling anyone to attack government buildings. I was saying that IF they did, they would be a hero to many here on the left. Just as history has proven with people like Bill Ayers, a close personal friend of Obama.

I did NOT quote you out of context. You posted in this thread:

This guy should have tried to blow up the pentagon or other government buildings.

I don't see the conditional word, IF or any other conditional word, anywhere in your post, any more than Al Qaeda makes conditional threats against the U.S. or Timothy McVeigh set a conditional explosion that never went off. Your post is a declarative statement that the guy "should have tried to blow up the pentagon or other government buildings."

Anyone who questions whether your statement was conditional can scroll back to your posts as you wrote them to see your imaginary "context."

You might want to roll over and let Perknose fight his own battles.

Nah. As long as you insist on setting yourself up by posting your bullshit, I'd rather point to it so others see you for the right wingnut jackass you are.

I don't have to prove a fucking thing to worthless sub-human POS's like yourself. If you can find a post from Perknose condemning a left-wing terrorist like Bill Ayers, I'll concede your point. Short of that, my assertation STANDS.. Perknose would be completely accepting of this guy had he been a left wing loon who tried to blow up buildings in the name of environmentalism, anti-war, global warming.. whatever

I know you for the liar you are so YOU couldn't "prove a fucking thing" to me. However, in this thread, you posted:

He'd be a hero to Perknose and his ilk and probably a member of the Obama Administration or at least a close personal friend.

The fact is, you don't have any facts to support your lies that Perknose would in any way regard this rightwingnut would be bomber as a hero or that he "would be completely accepting of this guy had he been a left wing loon who tried to blow up buildings in the name of environmentalism, anti-war, global warming.. whatever." If you can't support those declarative statements, you are a liar.

And you can't pretend that Perknose supports Bill Ayers' actions because he didn't post a declarative statement denying that he does anymore than one can prove you're a gay prostitute because you haven't posted a declarative statement to deny it.

The fact is, you likewise can't produce any facts to support your lie that "a member of the Obama Administration" would regard this wingnut as any kind of hero if he had "tried to blow up the pentagon or other government buildings" (your words). If you can't support that declarative statement, you are a liar.

And for the record, I didn't support the war in Vietnam, but neither did I support Bill Ayres, or anyone else, bombing public buildings during the 1960's and 1970's in protest of that war anymore than you now claim you didn't mean it when you posted, "This guy should have tried to blow up the pentagon or other government buildings."

 

[Fear No Evil]

Ok lets play the word game. I said he "should have tried", which means he wouldn't have actually suceeding in doing it, but he would have tried.. So clearly your statement that I am supporting the blowing up of federal buildings is a patently false accusation.

Lets continue the word game:

The fact is, you likewise can't produce any facts to support your lie that "a member of the Obama Administration" would regard this wingnut as any kind of hero if he had "tried to blow up the pentagon or other government buildings" (your words). If you can't support that declarative statement, you are a liar.

If you are going to play the word game, at least stop frothing at the mouth long enough to actually read what I said:

He'd be a hero to Perknose and his ilk and probably a member of the Obama Administration or at least a close personal friend.

I never said anything about a member of the Obama administration considering the guy a hero. I said that had this guy tried to blow up a government building HE might be a member of the Obama Administration or a close friend of the Administration.. Like Bill Ayers. Note how I said a member OR a close personal friend.

Its also interesting how you claim my statement in regards to blowing up the buildings was not a hypothetical, yet you in your own words say:

The fact is, you likewise can't produce any facts to support your lie that "a member of the Obama Administration" would regard this wingnut as any kind of hero if he had "tried to blow up the pentagon or other government buildings" (your words). If you can't support that declarative statement, you are a liar.

I guess my IF was implied, you certainly interpreted that way. By your own words. Playing the word game anyway!

Its interesting that you claim you don't support people like Bill Ayers yet I don't see you accusing HIM of being linked to Al Qaeda or Tim McVeigh.. even though he DID tried to blow up buildings. Yet I, who makes a statement with an implied IF to it (By your own admission) is a terrorist for making a hypothetical statement?

Want to keep playing the word game?

 

[werepossum]

SNIP

I did NOT quote you out of context. You posted in this thread:

This guy should have tried to blow up the pentagon or other government buildings.

I don't see the conditional word, IF or any other conditional word, anywhere in your post, any more than Al Qaeda makes conditional threats against the U.S. or Timothy McVeigh set a conditional explosion that never went off. Your post is a declarative statement that the guy "should have tried to blow up the pentagon or other government buildings."

Anyone who questions whether your statement was conditional can scroll back to your posts as you wrote them to see your imaginary "context."

SNIP

Here's the quote in context.

This guy should have tried to blow up the pentagon or other government buildings. He'd be a hero to Perknose and his ilk and probably a member of the Obama Administration or at least a close personal friend.

Its amazing the spin the left needs to put on situations like this in order to try to demonize the right.. yet they CELEBRATE the terrorists and traitors in their midst. I guess when you President is making GWB look like a great leader you have to resort to attacks like these.

I don't agree with Fear No Evil's point - everyone knows progressives only support people blowing up government buildings when Republicans are in charge or when they are otherwise not getting their way - but you completely quoted him out of context. His point was clearly that had this guy bombed a government building like Ayers rather than shooting at cops he'd be a hero to the left instead of an "angry right winger". Turning this into a call for blowing up buildings is low even for you, and that's a bar that can't be easily found without digging.

 

[Kappo]

Uhh yeah that's why she told the media that her son, "who had been a carpenter and a cabinetmaker before his imprisonment, was angry about his unemployment and about "what's happening to our country."

And it's not like conservatives never snap and get violent because of their views right.... no history of that at all...

Who has a higher violent crime rate? Liberal or Conservative?

 

[Harvey]

Ok lets play the word game. I said he "should have tried", which means he wouldn't have actually suceeding in doing it, but he would have tried.. So clearly your statement that I am supporting the blowing up of federal buildings is a patently false accusation.

No, it does not mean "he wouldn't have actually suceeding in doing it, but he would have tried." You said he "should have tried to blow up the pentagon or other government buildings." They say nothing about any degree of successs or failure in such an attempt.

In other words, you're a liar.

Guess you failed English comprehension, too. Good thing you don't live in Arizona.

Lets continue the word game:

The fact is, you likewise can't produce any facts to support your lie that "a member of the Obama Administration" would regard this wingnut as any kind of hero if he had "tried to blow up the pentagon or other government buildings" (your words). If you can't support that declarative statement, you are a liar.

If you are going to play the word game, at least stop frothing at the mouth long enough to actually read what I said:

He'd be a hero to Perknose and his ilk and probably a member of the Obama Administration or at least a close personal friend.

I never said anything about a member of the Obama administration considering the guy a hero. I said that had this guy tried to blow up a government building HE might be a member of the Obama Administration or a close friend of the Administration.. Like Bill Ayers. Note how I said a member OR a close personal friend.

1. I don't have a webcam so you have no idea whether I'm "frothing at the mouth."

In other words, you're a liar.

2. Your exact words were:

He'd be a hero to Perknose and his ilk and probably a member of the Obama Administration or at least a close personal friend.

Whether you meant to say a member of the Obama administration MIGHT BE such a bomber or that he would consider such a bomber a hero is irrelevant. Either way, it's a malicious lie, and you can't prove that Perknose or ANY member of the Obama administration who would do either.

In other words, you're a liar.

I guess my IF was implied, you certainly interpreted that way. By your own words. Playing the word game anyway!

I wouldn't mind giving you the benefit of that meaning if you had the balls to stand up and acknowledge what you actually wrote instead of accusing others of posting statements you can't prove were ever said and acts you can't prove were ever done.

But you don't. In other words, you're a liar.

Its interesting that you claim you don't support people like Bill Ayers yet I don't see you accusing HIM of being linked to Al Qaeda or Tim McVeigh.. even though he DID tried to blow up buildings. Yet I, who makes a statement with an implied IF to it (By your own admission) is a terrorist for making a hypothetical statement?

BUAHAHAhahahaha!!!! :biggrin:

I don't see you accusing Bill Ayers of being linked to Al Qaeda or Tim McVeigh, either. Ayers activities as a bomber were in the 60's and 70's. If you were that stupid, I'd have to wonder whether your ability to tell time and read a calendar were as bad as your ability to read and write English.

The entire matter of Ayres relationship to Obama has long been dead issue for anyone who actually paid attention to the 2000 Presidential election campaign, but if you want to re-litigate, go ahead. You'll lose that one, too, just as bad as you did the last time around. While you're at it, don't forget to drag up other lame ass bullshit like whether Obama was actually born in the U.S. And don't forget about poor old Vincent Foster.

Want to keep playing the word game?

Maybe, if you ever learn how to play it. Meanwhile, go home and practice, little boy.

 

[Fear No Evil]

I'll post my proof when you post your proof of Bush being a traitor.

 

[SickBeast]

I'll post my proof when you post your proof of Bush being a traitor.

The current economic mess is proof of the fact that Bush is a traitor. The same goes for the Iraq war. Need I continue?

 

[SickBeast]

Aren't the police the symbol of a right wing facist police state? Why would a right wing extremist attack the police!? This guy is nuts, plain and simple. It's the leftist extremists that tend to go after the cops.

 

[Fear No Evil]

The current economic mess is proof of the fact that Bush is a traitor. The same goes for the Iraq war. Need I continue?

No! I agree. And I also have contended that Obama's unwillingness to END said war AND prosecute Bush for his crimes make HIM a traitor as well. Except Bush it out of office and can do no further damage while the Obama regime continues its criminal activities.

 

[werepossum]

Aren't the police the symbol of a right wing facist police state? Why would a right wing extremist attack the police!? This guy is nuts, plain and simple. It's the leftist extremists that tend to go after the cops.

Apparently he intended to attack progressives, but was too bat shit crazy to drive without swerving so he got stopped. He then attacked the police in a failed attempt to avoid going back to prison.

 

[Harvey]

I'll post my proof when you post your proof of Bush being a traitor.

< sigh >... Yet another of your typical attempts to divert attention from your own epic failure to own up to your own lies, but since YOU brought it up...

Of all of the charges I've leveled at your mercifully EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal, treason would probably be the most difficult to prove to the standards required for conviction. You ignore the fact that I've also accused them of murder, torture, war crimes and crimes against humanity. When I have, I've posted names, dates, documented legal citations, quotes and other hard evidence to support those charges.

I've posted that evidence many times. You remember... you and other wingnuts refer to those posts as my "macros." Reposting the litany of charges and evidence would just take the thread further off topic. Besides, when I do post them, you always post the same chickenshit denials, diversions and false accusations about everyone else, just as you're doing in this thread.

The forums have a search engine... Or are you as challenged with a mouse as you are with English?

 

[chucky2]

....and yet, nothing from Obama or the Dem's who had a supermajority.

Was that a failure by You, or Them, or, Both?

Chuck

 

[SickBeast]

No! I agree. And I also have contended that Obama's unwillingness to END said war AND prosecute Bush for his crimes make HIM a traitor as well. Except Bush it out of office and can do no further damage while the Obama regime continues its criminal activities.

Good, so that means you can go on ahead and post your proof now.

BTW if you don't like Bush and you don't like Obama, who do you like for president?

 

[Fear No Evil]

Good, so that means you can go on ahead and post your proof now.

BTW if you don't like Bush and you don't like Obama, who do you like for president?

Neither? One is a former President and one is the current President. I don't understand the need to like either of them?

If I had my pick of a candidate? I'd pick Congressman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin to run.

 

[SickBeast]

POST THE PROOF OMG

Proof or ban!

 

[Fear No Evil]

POST THE PROOF OMG

Proof or ban!

What are you looking for proof on exactly?

 

[Zebo]

nm

 

[SickBeast]

What are you looking for proof on exactly?

I'm not exactly sure; you said you were gonna post "proof" after Harvey made a very long post.

Proof FTW

 

[Craig234]

Neither? One is a former President and one is the current President. I don't understand the need to like either of them?

If I had my pick of a candidate? I'd pick Congressman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin to run.

What a really lousy pick. He's especially bad. The bad thing is, he's sharp enough to be more effective as the ideologically misguided leader he is, so he's more dangerous.

His skillful but misguided arguing is a lot more effective than the typical buffoonish right-wing people spouting empty platitudes. He's just the type who could take power in a 'revolution'.

Sort of the current 'Newt Gingrich'.

 

[classy]

Neither? One is a former President and one is the current President. I don't understand the need to like either of them?

If I had my pick of a candidate? I'd pick Congressman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin to run.

Paul Ryan , you can't be serious?