...UPDATE... A64 heatsink temps

Monoman

Platinum Member
Mar 4, 2001
2,163
0
76
[UPDATE] after setting up my rig in a Antec Super Lanboy with the stock HSF I am getting idle temps of 45C-49C and at the peak of my 24Hr prime95 tourchure run it got to 63C :Q is this normal or should I get a better cooling option. I have seen marks temps and in no way does mine even come close tho those. I even have to disable C&Q because it whud throttle down the fan and run at 55C idle temps. I have receated he HSF twice and both times I reapplied a very thin coat of AS5.[/UPDATE]

any advice? or just tell me to shut up! :D


honestly, the stock works fine, I just would like to try lapping a HSF. Also, please state your reasons for answer if you would :D
 

JBT

Lifer
Nov 28, 2001
12,094
1
81
Why not LAP the stock one and see how it improves if it does enough then sweet saved some money, if not get something else?
 

SickBeast

Lifer
Jul 21, 2000
14,377
19
81
Since you don't have much overclocking headroom with that chip I would just stick with the stock HSF.
 

Monoman

Platinum Member
Mar 4, 2001
2,163
0
76
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Since you don't have much overclocking headroom with that chip I would just stick with the stock HSF.

see, Thats my opinion too, I just wanted to get a feel from the peeps here :D
 

Texun

Platinum Member
Oct 21, 2001
2,058
1
81
Do you already have the sand paper? If not you'll need to gather up an assorted mix for the job. Figure $5-$8 maybe less, then spend time polishing it with the lowest to highest grit until you got it right. My guess is that you have already read up on the process so you probably already know what you will need to have and what to do.

Or, if you just want to knock a few degrees off your temps you can skip all the foot work and just get one of these from Newegg for about $15 shipped. It's not the best cooler, but for the money it's a very popular and effective cooler for those wanting an improvement over stock. I've got one on an 1800 and the temps never go above 40C on my Shuttle.
 

jdogg707

Diamond Member
Jun 24, 2002
6,098
0
76
Ya, if you don't plan on increasing the voltage, and don't mind the noise level of the included HSF, just lap it and enjoy.
 

Monoman

Platinum Member
Mar 4, 2001
2,163
0
76
Originally posted by: Texun
Do you already have the sand paper? If not you'll need to gather up an assorted mix for the job. Figure $5-$8 maybe less, then spend time polishing it with the lowest to highest grit until you got it right. My guess is that you have already read up on the process so you probably already know what you will need to have and what to do. Or, if you just want to knock a few degrees off your temps you can skip all the foot work and just get one of these from Newegg for about $15 shipped. It's not the best cooler, but for the money it's a very popular and effective cooler for those wanting an improvement over stock. I've got one on an 1800 and the temps never go above 40C on my Shuttle.

so you think this HSF is better than the A63 stock cooler? from the add @ newegg it seems less effective due to the smaller amount of copper present but I am no means an expert here.



also, I do know what it take to lap but I don't have the sandpaper yet and If I do decide to go that route I will pick some up. If I do LAP I will do it tomarrow evening :D

Thanks to all who voted so far
 

InlineFive

Diamond Member
Sep 20, 2003
9,599
2
0
Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
If you're not overclocking at all, I wouldn't be bothered doing anything.

What he said. AMD wouldn't ship it if it wasn't good enough. ;)

-Por
 

MDE

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
13,199
1
81
Leave it alone unless you're going to strap a Prometiea on there...
EDIT: You can also wave goodbye to your warranty if you lap the heatsink or heatspreader.
 

mechBgon

Super Moderator<br>Elite Member
Oct 31, 1999
30,699
1
0
You would want to lap the CPU's heatspreader too. One even surface + one uneven surface does not really get you very far ;)
 

Monoman

Platinum Member
Mar 4, 2001
2,163
0
76
Originally posted by: mechBgon
You would want to lap the CPU's heatspreader too. One even surface + one uneven surface does not really get you very far ;)

ah damn.... good idea but... when lapping don't you use water? water + proc = ???? I would be alittle concerned with that unless you can lap w/o using water and soap.
 

JBT

Lifer
Nov 28, 2001
12,094
1
81
Or, if you just want to knock a few degrees off your temps you can skip all the foot work and just get one of these from Newegg for about $15 shipped. It's not the best cooler, but for the money it's a very popular and effective cooler for those wanting an improvement over stock. I've got one on an 1800 and the temps never go above 40C on my Shuttle

That won't quite work as it doesn't fit A64's...
 

Texun

Platinum Member
Oct 21, 2001
2,058
1
81
Originally posted by: JBT
Or, if you just want to knock a few degrees off your temps you can skip all the foot work and just get one of these from Newegg for about $15 shipped. It's not the best cooler, but for the money it's a very popular and effective cooler for those wanting an improvement over stock. I've got one on an 1800 and the temps never go above 40C on my Shuttle

That won't quite work as it doesn't fit A64's...

Oops! Your're right.... I didn't read the title correctly.
rolleye.gif
 

mechBgon

Super Moderator<br>Elite Member
Oct 31, 1999
30,699
1
0
Originally posted by: Monoman
Originally posted by: mechBgon
You would want to lap the CPU's heatspreader too. One even surface + one uneven surface does not really get you very far ;)

ah damn.... good idea but... when lapping don't you use water? water + proc = ???? I would be alittle concerned with that unless you can lap w/o using water and soap.
Yeah, exactly right. I lapped Celerons back in the day and that's exactly what you do... smack 'em heatspreader-side-down on wet sandpaper and lap them. Bye-bye warranty, of course.

Remember that the goal of lapping isn't to make the surfaces smooth, it's to make them flat. That way, the layer of thermal compound can be very, very thin, allowing the thermal transfer to be improved. Personally, I would just use the stock retail heatsink as-is unless it's too noisy, in which case look at an aftermarket solution with an 80mm fan. I got an Alpha PAL8150 for mine just for the heck of it, but from the temperatures people have reported versus mine (with the same CPU and mobo), the stock HSF actually cools better than my 8150 does (with a quiet Panaflo L1A 80mm fan).
 

Monoman

Platinum Member
Mar 4, 2001
2,163
0
76
cool, I'm actually going to use a 60mm <=> 80MM converter with a coolmaster 25db fan with it. I got some AS5 so I should be fine. Thanks everyone!

[edit] I just noticed the stock HSF has an 80MM fan so I don't need my adaptor. SWEET!

[edit 2] I was looking at my adaptor, the stock fan isn't 60mm it's [?]70mm[/?] Interesting.... :confused:
 

Markfw

Moderator Emeritus, Elite Member
May 16, 2002
27,260
16,118
136
You know, they run so cool, I don't think it really matters, so have fun doing whichever you decide !

Edit: If you do go aftermarkey, my Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 is very quiet, and runs 32c-42c depending on load at about 28c ambient temp.
 

sharq

Senior member
Mar 11, 2003
507
0
0
Here's the un-informed Q of the night: What is LAP? I have no idea what this acronym stands for.
 

MDE

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
13,199
1
81
It's not an acronyn, it just means to sand whatever surface to a flat, smooth almost mirror-like finish.
 

Monoman

Platinum Member
Mar 4, 2001
2,163
0
76
Originally posted by: Markfw900
You know, they run so cool, I don't think it really matters, so have fun doing whichever you decide ! Edit: If you do go aftermarkey, my Thermaltake Silent Boost K8 is very quiet, and runs 32c-42c depending on load at about 28c ambient temp.

It was just an idea I had as I was dreaming about my almost complete system :D