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Doc Savage Fan said:
Apparently Atomic Playboy was having a little trouble understanding what I thought was painfully obvious. Did you not read his post...or do you need help understanding it?
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I do not need help understanding anything you post I'm pretty sure of.

Understanding why you post it, would be the real underlying problem.
 
Vic said:
A partisan crock of shit. I'll let Bill Gates and Warren Buffet know that they're supposed to be poor. Or better yet, let's tell the guy who is almost personally responsible for transitioning Hungary from communism to capitalism that he's really a Marxist.

Seriously, how the fuck did you get this stupid?
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This is actually your takeaway from what I posted? Wow. I'm truly amazed at the shear depth of your mental depravity. The LBD is strong with you.
 
MongGrel said:
I do not need help understanding anything you post I'm pretty sure of.
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Good.

MongGrel said:
Understanding why you post it, would be the real underlying problem.
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Perhaps you should attempt to engage in rational dialog and ask me to explain my reasoning then. This is not hard. If you don't care to understand where I'm coming from...fine. I just don't see any reason to waste each other's time trading insults.
 
Ebola, or Obola, may be helping the Republicans, going into November Elections.

National Health Care is doing double-digit EBola virus infection.

Obama is just so clueless, that perhaps even people that have heard him speak, can vote against him, or other like minded Democrats.

Normal people have a chance to vote against him, and against Democrats, this upcoming November 4th.

-John
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
Bottom line, regardless of what you think about the Citizens United decision, the playing field is equal. Liberals do a damn fine job raising money with SuperPACs and for them to bitch about Conservatives (who happened to use them a little more effectively in 2012) is pure hypocrisy in my book.
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As long as money is equated to speech the playing field will never be equal.
 
You're wrong, Homer.

Government has so much money, and you are limiting the only opposition to Government, a person.

Think about it.

-John
 
Just like Corporations, and Speech, are not related.

It's an INDIVIDUALS RIGHT to speech, or running a corporation.

-John
 
senseamp said:
Why don't you tell us?
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here ya go numbnutz...

OpenSecrets.org
Center For Responsive Politics
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

ALL TIME TOP POLITICAL DONORS, 1989 - 2014

Note: Percentages may not add up to 100% as money can be given to third party
candidates or outside spending groups and PACs not affiliated with either party.

Rank..Organization......................................Total '89-'12...Dem % Repub % Tilt
1.......ActBlue.............................................$97,192,340.....99%.....0%........D
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59......Koch Industries.................................$18,083,948.....8%.....90%........R
 
Vic said:
A partisan crock of shit. I'll let Bill Gates and Warren Buffet know that they're supposed to be poor. Or better yet, let's tell the guy who is almost personally responsible for transitioning Hungary from communism to capitalism that he's really a Marxist.

Seriously, how the fuck did you get this stupid?
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The fuck...?

Posting while drunk again, I gather.
 
Zorkorist said:
Ebola, or Obola, may be helping the Republicans, going into November Elections.

National Health Care is doing double-digit EBola virus infection.

Obama is just so clueless, that perhaps even people that have heard him speak, can vote against him, or other like minded Democrats.

Normal people have a chance to vote against him, and against Democrats, this upcoming November 4th.

-John
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You.. like.. define ODS.
 
row said:
here ya go numbnutz...

OpenSecrets.org
Center For Responsive Politics
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

ALL TIME TOP POLITICAL DONORS, 1989 - 2014

Note: Percentages may not add up to 100% as money can be given to third party
candidates or outside spending groups and PACs not affiliated with either party.

Rank..Organization......................................Total '89-'12...Dem % Repub % Tilt
1.......ActBlue.............................................$97,192,340.....99%.....0%........D
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59......Koch Industries.................................$18,083,948.....8%.....90%........R
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This was already discussed somewhere. Round and round you go.
 
Doc Savage Fan said:
Mostly False.

http://thegazette.com/subject/news/...-brothers-are-buying-ernsts-campaign-20140711

It's hilarious to see Liberals foam at the mouth at the mere mention of the Koch Brothers. Meanwhile, chuckles have been heard coming from Pavlov's grave.
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Oops:
Editor's Note: The week after this report ran, the Federal Elections Commission released new filing reports showing the Koch brother's had donated the maximum amount to Joni Ernst's campaign. Because of this new information, we changed the assessment of this ad from “mostly false” to “mostly true”.
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The Gazette was relying on outdated information. Also note that none of us know how much money the Kochs (or anyone else) are spending to support Ernst via anonymous 501(c)(4) laundering.
 
Bowfinger said:
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The Gazette was relying on outdated information. Also note that none of us know how much money the Kochs (or anyone else) are spending to support Ernst via anonymous 501(c)(4) laundering.
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Give me a break...the maximum amount is virtually nothing in the scheme of things and is hardly "buying Ernst's campaign"....you can't even buy a plate at an Obama fundraiser for $15,400, much less buy an election!

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/212609-kochs-max-out-for-ernst-in-iowa

Koch, his wife, his son and daughter-in-law each gave the legal maximum contribution of $2,600 to Ernst in late June, according to newly filed documents with the Federal Election Commission. Koch Industries also made a $5,000 contribution to her campaign.
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Meanwhile, I see that Obama complained about Republicans being the party of billionaires as he attended several fundraisers last week at billionaires houses including a fundraiser hosted by Soros. And don't kid yourself...big money Democrats take advantage of 501(c)(4)'s as well. Democrats are currently outraising Republicans and Obama seems to be spending more and more time fundraising than dealing with the issues facing our country, setting fundraiser records to boot when compared to all other Presidents. And lastly, the "But, but Koch brothers!" mantra is hypocritical bullshit imo. I don't like the Citizen's United decision either, but the playing field is level for both parties and I'm sure both sides take advantage of this ruling...deal with it.
 
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Doc Savage Fan said:
Give me a break...the maximum amount is virtually nothing in the scheme of things and is hardly "buying Ernst's campaign"....you can't even buy a plate at an Obama fundraiser for $15,400, much less buy an election!

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/212609-kochs-max-out-for-ernst-in-iowa



Meanwhile, I see that Obama complained about Republicans being the party of billionaires as he attended several fundraisers last week at billionaires houses including a fundraiser hosted by Soros. And don't kid yourself...big money Democrats take advantage of 501(c)(4)'s as well. Democrats are currently outraising Republicans and Obama seems to be spending more and more time fundraising than dealing with the issues facing our country, setting fundraiser records to boot when compared to all other Presidents. And lastly, the "But, but Koch brothers!" mantra is hypocritical bullshit imo. I don't like the Citizen's United decision either, but the playing field is level for both parties and I'm sure both sides take advantage of this ruling...deal with it.
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Settle down, Beavis. Read your own link. I did. They aren't talking about the personal limit. Then you can read ALL my words, where I already acknowledged the Kochs aren't the only ones taking advantage of the 501(c)(4) dirty money loophole. My point was simply the Gazette was wrong in their initial analysis, as they now admit.
 
Bowfinger said:
Settle down, Beavis. Read your own link. I did. They aren't talking about the personal limit. Then you can read ALL my words, where I already acknowledged the Kochs aren't the only ones taking advantage of the 501(c)(4) dirty money loophole. My point was simply the Gazette was wrong in their initial analysis, as they now admit.
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Perhaps you missed my point, Butthead....the Gazette is wrong in their current analysis. $15,800 is hardly buying an election for Ernst...there's millions and millions of dollars being thrown at this race.

http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?id=IAS2&cycle=2014
 
Bowfinger said:
So you didn't read your own link. Got it.
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If anyone is trying to buy this particular election, it's Democrats with their SuperPACs. They're outspending Republican SuperPACs by huge margins. But, but Koch brothers! Chuckles can be heard coming from Pavlov's grave every time someone gets their panties in a bunch at the mere mention of their name.
 
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