Unreal Tournament 2007 -- minimum graphics card?

[WhipperSnapper]

Would anyone care to speculate what the minimum graphics card that would be needed to play this game well would be? What would you need to play at 600 x 800 with a minimum of 50 frame rates, medium quality?

Would a 6600 GT or a 6800nu do the trick?

 

[Malladine]

<Purespeculation>
medium? neither of those would be my guess. I'd say at least 6800gt/x800xl and above for medium @ 800x600
</Purespeculation>

 

[superfly27]

I saw an interview once where a guy from Epic said 6200 and 9800 (minimum, and not refering to frame rate).

I have to assume here he was talking about the pixel shader compatibility. Because there is quite a difference between the 6200 and 6600 GT and 9800 and 9800 Pro.

In any case, the CPU is very important in UT2004, VERY IMPORTANT.
I just ordered a socket 754 Athlon 3400+ 2.4 GHz and X700 Pro (PCI-E).
I think the minimum cards people should buy right now are the X700 Pro, 9800 Pro and 6600 GT. The absolute minimum being the 9600 Pro.

I intend to keep my 3400+ for a couple of years but will probably buy a card in the Geforce 8 line a couple of months after they come out.

BTW, the guy in the interview did say the 6800 Ultra would play it max. Problem there is however, that HDR works better in the 7800 GT and 7800 GTX. So, if you're going to spend that much, I'd get a 7800 GT.

 

[Crescent13]

no. Anything less than a 7 series will not run it. The engine has graphic code that a 6 series card could not interpret. I think even a 7200 could run it at low resolutions, but a 6 series card won't run it because it is simply too old, not because it is too slow. This is just my guess.

 

[BenSkywalker]

UT2K7 is being built with SM 3.0 as a major design consideration along with aiming for 512MB boards to run the highest settings(nothing out now has the shader power+RAM to pull this off). Also- FP32 is their target rendering accuracy. If you want an ATi alternative to nV's parts for that particular game wait until the R5x0 parts hit- nothing they have now is remotely close to ideal.

For current boards that should run medium settings well, probably 7800GTXs in SLI(no, I'm not kidding). Two years ago the R9800Pro was the fastest board you could buy and it runs today games on medium settings at best. UT2K7 is going to push hardware harder then most games(maybe outside of FEAR) out today for certain. I know what Epic is saying, they don't want to tell people to wait for ever to upgrade their hardware.

 

[monster64]

Originally posted by: Crescent13
no. Anything less than a 7 series will not run it. The engine has graphic code that a 6 series card could not interpret. I think even a 7200 could run it at low resolutions, but a 6 series card won't run it because it is simply too old, not because it is too slow. This is just my guess.

Thats not possible because less than 1% of all gamers have a 7800 GTX, and it wouldnt be possible for them to sell a game that only 1% of people could run smoothly.

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: Crescent13
no. Anything less than a 7 series will not run it. The engine has graphic code that a 6 series card could not interpret. I think even a 7200 could run it at low resolutions, but a 6 series card won't run it because it is simply too old, not because it is too slow. This is just my guess.

riiiight, Epic only wants to sell to the pure enthusiast market, screw the other 99% of the gaming market that does not have a 7 series card.


lol

 

[BenSkywalker]

Thats not possible because less than 1% of all gamers have a 7800 GTX, and it wouldnt be possible for them to sell a game that only 1% of people could run smoothly.

Two years away. FEAR is being released right now and won't run decently even on a 7800GTX, EQ2 won't run at its highest settings on SLId 7800GTXs- the game we are talking about is two years away.

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

Thats not possible because less than 1% of all gamers have a 7800 GTX, and it wouldnt be possible for them to sell a game that only 1% of people could run smoothly.

Two years away. FEAR is being released right now and won't run decently even on a 7800GTX, EQ2 won't run at its highest settings on SLId 7800GTXs- the game we are talking about is two years away.

Excactly my point!

 

[HDTVMan]

Will reply to this in 2007.

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

Thats not possible because less than 1% of all gamers have a 7800 GTX, and it wouldnt be possible for them to sell a game that only 1% of people could run smoothly.

Two years away. FEAR is being released right now and won't run decently even on a 7800GTX, EQ2 won't run at its highest settings on SLId 7800GTXs- the game we are talking about is two years away.

Well they will probably release in '06, but yeah, you're right. By the time this game is released, mainstream cards will run the game just fine. Problem is, most people want their upgrades to last 2yrs or so and even the 7800gtx purchased today isn't up to par. Which sucks. How can I recommend an upgrade to someone knowing this?

Basically, if you upgrade your gpu in the next month or so, you'll have to upgrade again almost guaranteed by '07? Not good.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

come back in 2007

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

Thats not possible because less than 1% of all gamers have a 7800 GTX, and it wouldnt be possible for them to sell a game that only 1% of people could run smoothly.

Two years away. FEAR is being released right now and won't run decently even on a 7800GTX.

It runs great on my 6800gt and x800xt-pe with the settings I have it at, so I'm sure people can fine plently playable settings on a 7800gtx.

Originally posted by: BenSkywalkerEQ2 won't run at its highest settings on SLId 7800GTXs-

Thats why they make graphics optioins, I'm sure EQ2 has some options to alow for SLIed 7800gtxs to flym and I'm sure ut2007 will have plenty such options as well.

Originally posted by: BenSkywalkerthe game we are talking about is two years away.

More like six months:

That makes the game a Q1 - Q2 2006 release, which might even make it a PS3 launch title, if that ever gets officially confirmed.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/643/643559p1.html

But yeah, we don't have any recomended specs from Epic yet so any arguments of what hardware will be required is just guesswork.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Crescent13
no. Anything less than a 7 series will not run it. The engine has graphic code that a 6 series card could not interpret. I think even a 7200 could run it at low resolutions, but a 6 series card won't run it because it is simply too old, not because it is too slow. This is just my guess.

hmmm sure

you do know that the 7 series and 6 series are pretty much IDENTICLE when it comes to features?

so if it runs on a 7 series it WILL run on a 6 series, (of course slower)

the only thing the 7series has over the 6 series is .... fixed Pure Video, and Transparent AA, neither of which are related to this "code" your on about

better wise up sonny

i would imagine 9800 grade GPU would be the ABSOLUTE minimum (though i hope epic pull of a master piece like valve did) (for SM2)

a 6600-6800 series will give you the absolute minimum to medium SM3 play

this is just a guess from what ive read, but considering this engine is 1-2 years away, i bet you'd need more, alot more, than what ive just mentioned

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Freeman: And will a 6800 Ultra be able to run Unreal Engine 3 with all the options maxed at 1024 by 768?

Sweeney: Yeah, 1024 by 768 should be perfect for an Ultra, of course by the time Unreal Tournament 2007 ships at the middle or the end of next year, you'll have even higher-end cards than that; you'll have four times the performance, so you'll be able to run 1600 by 1200 on those.


From the E3 interview.

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Crescent13
no. Anything less than a 7 series will not run it. The engine has graphic code that a 6 series card could not interpret. I think even a 7200 could run it at low resolutions, but a 6 series card won't run it because it is simply too old, not because it is too slow. This is just my guess.

hmmm sure

you do know that the 7 series and 6 series are pretty much IDENTICLE when it comes to features?

so if it runs on a 7 series it WILL run on a 6 series, (of course slower)

the only thing the 7series has over the 6 series is .... fixed Pure Video, and Transparent AA, neither of which are related to this "code" your on about

better wise up sonny

i would imagine 9800 grade GPU would be the ABSOLUTE minimum (though i hope epic pull of a master piece like valve did) (for SM2)

a 6600-6800 series will give you the absolute minimum to medium SM3 play

this is just a guess from what ive read, but considering this engine is 1-2 years away, i bet you'd need more, alot more, than what ive just mentioned

You "better wise up". 7 series has CineFX 4.0, that adds Subpixel lighting, radiosity, 64bit HDR, and many other things that the 6 series DOES NOT have.

 

[kylebisme]

Yeah, otispunkmeyer, wise up and buy into the marketing hype that trys to pass of faster tech as new features!

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Crescent13
no. Anything less than a 7 series will not run it. The engine has graphic code that a 6 series card could not interpret. I think even a 7200 could run it at low resolutions, but a 6 series card won't run it because it is simply too old, not because it is too slow. This is just my guess.

hmmm sure

you do know that the 7 series and 6 series are pretty much IDENTICLE when it comes to features?

so if it runs on a 7 series it WILL run on a 6 series, (of course slower)

the only thing the 7series has over the 6 series is .... fixed Pure Video, and Transparent AA, neither of which are related to this "code" your on about

better wise up sonny

i would imagine 9800 grade GPU would be the ABSOLUTE minimum (though i hope epic pull of a master piece like valve did) (for SM2)

a 6600-6800 series will give you the absolute minimum to medium SM3 play

this is just a guess from what ive read, but considering this engine is 1-2 years away, i bet you'd need more, alot more, than what ive just mentioned

You "better wise up". 7 series has CineFX 4.0, that adds Subpixel lighting, radiosity, 64bit HDR, and many other things that the 6 series DOES NOT have.

hmm but i believe non of them are actually needed as part of SM3.....they are merely extra's

6800 meets SM3 fully, 7800 meets SM3 fully, epic are coding with SM3 in mind.the game will run on 6800 level hardware (maybe at etch-a-sketch pace) but it'll run in SM3 becuase the NV40 already checks all SM3 boxes and more.

UT2007 is what 1-2 years away....i know for a fact ill probably still have this 6800GT, there'll be lots of people still will NV40 based hardware. epic arent going to make a game for the top few percent of the market, theyre not going to use vendor specific hardware features like your mentioning for the core of the game, as an extra eye candy feature yes, but not for the core.

nvidia havent really taken any big leaps and bounds again this time, 7800 is still DX9.0c just as 6800 is also DX9.0c. all theyve done is add more pipes and verts, tidied up the efficiency abit, and added a few non critical extra features

and about the HDR, i may be wrong so feel free to correct me, the HDR in farcry was 64bit wasnt it? or FP something i dunno, all i remember is it was made using openEXR?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
UT2K7 is being built with SM 3.0 as a major design consideration along with aiming for 512MB boards to run the highest settings(nothing out now has the shader power+RAM to pull this off). Also- FP32 is their target rendering accuracy. If you want an ATi alternative to nV's parts for that particular game wait until the R5x0 parts hit- nothing they have now is remotely close to ideal.

For current boards that should run medium settings well, probably 7800GTXs in SLI(no, I'm not kidding). Two years ago the R9800Pro was the fastest board you could buy and it runs today games on medium settings at best. UT2K7 is going to push hardware harder then most games(maybe outside of FEAR) out today for certain. I know what Epic is saying, they don't want to tell people to wait for ever to upgrade their hardware.

I agree that you can't upgrade for future games. (and for sure not to a 9800 for that one)

I have seen it played on 7800GTX SLI, looking great and running fast though. Supposedly U3 and UT2007 get close to double performance with SLI, perhaps optomized for it?

I'd guess the 7800GTX SLI will be close to what the single best card performance is at when the game launches, time will tell.

 

[imported_Kensai]

Originally posted by: HDTVMan
Will reply to this in 2007.

 

[kylebisme]

6 months people, that is Epic's current plan. just because it has 07 in the title doesn't mean it is two years away.

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

That makes the game a Q1 - Q2 2006 release, which might even make it a PS3 launch title, if that ever gets officially confirmed.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/643/643559p1.html

But yeah, we don't have any recomended specs from Epic yet so any arguments of what hardware will be required is just guesswork.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
6 months people, that is Epic's current plan. just because it has 07 in the title doesn't mean it is two years away.

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

That makes the game a Q1 - Q2 2006 release, which might even make it a PS3 launch title, if that ever gets officially confirmed.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/643/643559p1.html

But yeah, we don't have any recomended specs from Epic yet so any arguments of what hardware will be required is just guesswork.

thank you snowman

its 6months away.........so i can really see that anything less than a 7800 or a R520 wont be running this Crescent13 :disgust:

hell in 6months, people with 6800GT+ grade graphics will still be in a tiny minority, 7800 GT-GTX owners will be even more sparse.

 

[MBrown]

I think it will be able to play fine on 7800s. I think if you have a single core it wont run as good as a dual core becuase its going to be multithreaded.

 

[AndyD2k]

1. The game is going to be released in 2006...not two years from now like some are mentioning
2. The game was shown running on a 7800GTX
3. I still don't understand why people ask how their system will perform playing a unreleased game or to predict requirements - how will that help if no one outside of epic knows the answer to that yet?

 

[AndyD2k]

And because fear doesn't run well on current systems doesn't mean it's pushing the limits - it could just mean that the developer sucks at optimizing.