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Auric

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I could care less about sound storm.

So you do care? If you could not care less then you would care little. If you do not care at all then just say so. :p




 

Childs

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Originally posted by: Auric
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I could care less about sound storm.

So you do care? If you could not care less then you would care little. If you do not care at all then just say so. :p


"Could not care less" implies that his level of care is rock bottom, therefore caring less is impossible. So he can't care less.
 

Auric

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Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: Auric
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I could care less about sound storm.

So you do care? If you could not care less then you would care little. If you do not care at all then just say so. :p


"Could not care less" implies that his level of care is rock bottom, therefore caring less is impossible. So he can't care less.

Read again. GTaudiophile "could care less".

 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: Auric
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I could care less about sound storm.

So you do care? If you could not care less then you would care little. If you do not care at all then just say so. :p


"Could not care less" implies that his level of care is rock bottom, therefore caring less is impossible. So he can't care less.
Actually he said he could care less </end semantic nonsense > ;)

SoundStorm is great for HTPC via SPDIF but otherwise the only noteworthy aspect is the very low CPU usage.

SLI is the "killer" feature this go around.
 

Childs

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Originally posted by: Auric
Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: Auric
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I could care less about sound storm.

So you do care? If you could not care less then you would care little. If you do not care at all then just say so. :p


"Could not care less" implies that his level of care is rock bottom, therefore caring less is impossible. So he can't care less.

Read again. GTaudiophile "could care less".

Well la dee da!

hahahaha. Oh well, I guess you are correct. Too tired to try and weasel out of it. :)
 

Acanthus

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Im also put out by the lack of soundstorm.

Especially with integrated Envy solutions coming from VIA soon.

However, like many others we will get NF4 anyway for SLI.
 

Brian23

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who says via can't do SLI? And what's so great about it? It only means that you have to buy TWO expensive graphics cards. Personally, I only need one. I think it would be crazy to do SLI from a price/performance standpoint.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: Brian23
who says via can't do SLI? And what's so great about it? It only means that you have to buy TWO expensive graphics cards. Personally, I only need one. I think it would be crazy to do SLI from a price/performance standpoint.
You can buy 2 inexpensive cards too. The sweetspot will be sli capable cards that mod to higher end parts or overclock like mad, then there can be a bang-for-buck factor for you and I. The primary market is the workstation crowd where the power will be most welcome and the cost not at all prohibitive. For the enthusiast market the FX, P4EE, SCSI, and phase change crowd that live on the bleeding edge will be the main consumer of this tech I imagine.

 

AyashiKaibutsu

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But if he could care less then that means he cares to some degree... If he could not care less then he that implies he either he doesn't care at all assuming it's universe where that is possible or he does care. So it's an ambiguous statement either way. We need more information about the universe he is in.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
But if he could care less then that means he cares to some degree... If he could not care less then he that implies he either he doesn't care at all assuming it's universe where that is possible or he does care. So it's an ambiguous statement either way. We need more information about the universe he is in.
All you need to know about that universe is that Fry and Lela are married.

 

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
But if he could care less then that means he cares to some degree... If he could not care less then he that implies he either he doesn't care at all assuming it's universe where that is possible or he does care. So it's an ambiguous statement either way. We need more information about the universe he is in.
All you need to know about that universe is that Fry and Lela are married.

Haha, I watched that last night.


"Always complaining about me: 'stop spraying me with ink Zoidberg! Put on pants Zoiderg!'"
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: Shadax
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
But if he could care less then that means he cares to some degree... If he could not care less then he that implies he either he doesn't care at all assuming it's universe where that is possible or he does care. So it's an ambiguous statement either way. We need more information about the universe he is in.
All you need to know about that universe is that Fry and Lela are married.

Haha, I watched that last night.


"Always complaining about me: 'stop spraying me with ink Zoidberg! Put on pants Zoiderg!'"
:laugh: I'll never understand why it was canceled, never.
 

AWhackWhiteBoy

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maybe now that soundstorm is gone people will be forced to buy a decent sound card and realize, by god, soundstorm DOES suck!
 

Elcs

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Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy
maybe now that soundstorm is gone people will be forced to buy a decent sound card and realize, by god, soundstorm DOES suck!

Take your bashing stick and hit yourself over the head repeatedly.

Soundstorm is amazing for an inbuilt solution. Its essentially a free good quality sound card.

Granted, if I had the cash to waste on a new system then I wouldnt mind buying an Audigy 2 but quite frankly Soundstorm is one of the best onboard solutions created.

Look above, plenty of people agree with me already then add in the amount of people who havent read/posted here. You are clearly the minority.
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I'm holding out until there is decent FOSS support. Until then, it's up to VIA and AMD. :)

I agree.
It's too bad, nVidia makes great chipsets, but I'm gonna pass this time around unless they get their thumb out and support OSS developers a bit.
 

Wahsapa

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: Shadax
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
But if he could care less then that means he cares to some degree... If he could not care less then he that implies he either he doesn't care at all assuming it's universe where that is possible or he does care. So it's an ambiguous statement either way. We need more information about the universe he is in.
All you need to know about that universe is that Fry and Lela are married.

Haha, I watched that last night.


"Always complaining about me: 'stop spraying me with ink Zoidberg! Put on pants Zoiderg!'"
:laugh: I'll never understand why it was canceled, never.

because some dumb-fcuk execs moved the time slot around destroying the ratings it got and thought the simpsons deserved to be on for another 10 years :|
 

Concillian

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Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy
maybe now that soundstorm is gone people will be forced to buy a decent sound card and realize, by god, soundstorm DOES suck!

Soudstorm is still the fastest 3d audio solution out right now. Unfortunately that doesn't really mean much when it's paired with one of the slowest available CPUs.

So why does Soundstorm suck? I like 3d positional audio with no CPU hit, don't you? It's the ONLY existing sound solution that will ENCODE Dolby AC3 and output the information over SPDIF or optical.

The only bad thing about soudstorm is that, except for a few rare cases, it is paired with a POS realtek DAC that affects analog output quality since the APU didn't have a DAC, it relied on whatever motherboard makers decided to put in, which is ALWAYS that POS Realtek AC97.

Given the seeming excessive CPU speeds that will go along with an upgrade to an A64, I think I'll just use my Chaintech VIA Envy card. At least it has decent SNR. I think 3D audio can be handled by the CPU ok. At least until someone comes out with something similar to SoundStorm in capability as an add-on card.
 

Schadenfroh

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i just droppe $400 on a 6800GT and they are about to give it to me in the ass if they dont give me an AGP port
 

Pythias

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"Actually he said he could care less </end semantic nonsense > "

Well said! er...Typed!


Hang around for a bit. As the chipset matures the other goodies will be along. 'cept maybe soundstorm.