I'm confused why everyone overlooks the fact that Clinton bombed some tents to shift the focus away from his monica scandal. I'm confused why people expect the president to be perfect. He obviously can't satisfy everyone all the time. And he's human. Hell, he can't even say "Nuclear" so we'd better not vote for him.
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United States is a hypocrite
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I'm confused why everyone overlooks the fact that Clinton bombed some tents to shift the focus away from his monica scandal. I'm confused why people expect the president to be perfect. He obviously can't satisfy everyone all the time. And he's human. Hell, he can't even say "Nuclear" so we'd better not vote for him.
Return to your beliefs in what's right and wrong and the truth, much like a memory, will become self-evident.
In some cases. When Wilson decide to take sides in WW1 there was no way he could know that simple act would lead to WW2. You see the victors (Britain, Russia, France, etc.) took grand priviledge of the spoils of war and gave both Austria and more important Germany a terrible motive for revenge.
But that's the dark danger of Pandora's Box.
I agree. Clinton policy was ridiculous. Shooting millions of dollars of cruise missiles at some empty tents. But I wonder whether a unilateral invasion (support from the UK still makes it unilateral) by the United States culminating in possibly a military occupation of Iraq won't inspire a wave of next-generation terrorists.
You must go back earlier and see what created the evil Germany.
Two alliances of powerful nations fought in WW1 due to an assassinate of next emporer of Austria by some thugs in Bosnia . They fought to a stalemate and would likely have declared an armstice. But President Monroe decided America would intervene. This was done and Austria and Germany were forced to surrender.
The German emperor bailed and went to the Netherlands I believe. Some pretty horrible agreements and concessions were forced upon Germany. With the German emperor gone and Germany in disarray, Hilter had an opportunity to seize power and fuel German revenge. Germany aided Lenin in rising to power in Russia and that lead to the Soviet Union. Not good.
freakflag
Diamond Member
OK...
had a whole night to sleep on it and my conclusion remains the same.
Fvck you.
That's my solution
You think I'm ignorant? My views too simplistic?
I'm not ignorant, I'm tired of fvcking around with you pansies.
You don't like it?
Fvck you.
I love America and I don't like you.
That's my final answer.
had a whole night to sleep on it and my conclusion remains the same.
Fvck you.
That's my solution
You think I'm ignorant? My views too simplistic?
I'm not ignorant, I'm tired of fvcking around with you pansies.
You don't like it?
Fvck you.
I love America and I don't like you.
That's my final answer.
MinorityReport
Senior member
USA will attack Iraq, what is anyone gonna do about it ?
USA has might .. both economic and military.
It is strong vs weak.
Arabs are weak. US strong. So they die. Simple enough.
Why is US not attacking China or Russia or France ? Cause we get our a$es kicked by them .. to some extend although we prevail ultimately.
Iraq is a beloved patriot doll that can be thorw around with no loss to us.
Plus I invested too much into defense & energy already. I want my stock rise higher even if it means 5000 iraqi children being burnt alive.
As long as our media does not show it and keeps the "no civilian casulatity propaganda" at full swing, I am all cool.
I will feel real bad seeing some burnt up babies and children on TV from my investements .. hearing about it will not seem that ugly.
Will war on Iraq increase terrorism against America? Probably yes .. but then again what you gonna do about it ?
They gonna do it either ways .. nuke/bio/chem its bound to happen.
USA has might .. both economic and military.
It is strong vs weak.
Arabs are weak. US strong. So they die. Simple enough.
Why is US not attacking China or Russia or France ? Cause we get our a$es kicked by them .. to some extend although we prevail ultimately.
Iraq is a beloved patriot doll that can be thorw around with no loss to us.
Plus I invested too much into defense & energy already. I want my stock rise higher even if it means 5000 iraqi children being burnt alive.
As long as our media does not show it and keeps the "no civilian casulatity propaganda" at full swing, I am all cool.
I will feel real bad seeing some burnt up babies and children on TV from my investements .. hearing about it will not seem that ugly.
Will war on Iraq increase terrorism against America? Probably yes .. but then again what you gonna do about it ?
They gonna do it either ways .. nuke/bio/chem its bound to happen.
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As has been said now many times, jjones, you are a bigger idiot than we previously thought. I now believe that we can all conclusively agree that owing to the weight gravity and extreme repetition of the charges and the impeccable and irrefutable logic contained therein and furthermore, so explicitly laid out, that it is now beyond even a shadow of a doubt, that YOU JJONES ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!!
As has been said now many times, jjones, you are a bigger idiot than we previously thought. I now believe that we can all conclusively agree that owing to the weight gravity and extreme repetition of the charges and the impeccable and irrefutable logic contained therein and furthermore, so explicitly laid out, that it is now beyond even a shadow of a doubt, that YOU JJONES ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!!
So what do you suggest we do with Iraq? It is really easy to criticize, but you are offering no solutions.
Do we let iraq of the UN resolutions that bind them to inspectors? Do stop the no fly zones? Do we pull completely out of the middle east?
China is currently no threat to US, they maybe in 20-50 years, but not now. We could throw China into major problems if we just stopped buying Chinese goods. From what I understand that Dock strike in Calironia was hurting them worse than us.
Russia- not a threat.
France-not a threat at all.
Do you remember the anti-Saddam factions during the Persian Gulf war? Do you know where they are now? That's right, shallow graves. Actually it's probably more like their whole family and everyone they knew. If you want my opinion... passive support won't achieve sh!t (pardon my French). I do however think we need to put things on hold for right now and just see where everything is going... let the inspectors back in, see what they find, go from there.
If Musharraf is taken out all bets are off.
charrison, it's not just Iraq but our entire foreign policy. I want to see consistency, ethical decision-making and most importantly we need the backing of the American people because its their tax dollars that fund all of this intervention.
Please pick up your tin foil hat at the nearest receptacle.
Consistancy is nice, but probably not possible as each country has its own unique problem.
Pakistan, since al queda have been running into pakistan, we need permission to operate on the borders. And it works out nicely that pakistan is helping a bit in rounding al queda in their country. Yes they have terrorist in their country, but the pakistan goverment is being helpful to us.
China- We could be very well heading towards a confrontation down the road. So we keep an eye on them and buy their cheap goods. I disagree with them having a most favored nation on trade status, but then we are trying to get free enterprise into their system. IF they become a rich country, their people will probably have no desire for war either.
Saudi Arabia- Is that unpopular guy you hung around in high school, only because he had a car and would give you a ride. They have resources we need at this point, they help create islamic terrorist and we cant invade them because it would be about the oil as well. We sit back and wait for them to implode.
Iran- we are waiting for them to implode as well.
Iraq-After 11-12 years of failed policy, it is time to clean house. After we put a new goverment in, Iran and Saudi will accelerate their coming implosion.
That site is whacked and someone sure has a bone to pick but the links may have some value. Check out War Diary: Friday, Oct. 11, 2002 to learn more of the behind-the-scenes political games doing on to promote the Iraq conquest.
charrison, check my current signature. You seem to be in favor of adding a few more states to the union. Does what the U.S. is doing and proposing in the Mid East ever strike you as patently wrong?
MinorityReport
Senior member
The two emerging nations are China and India in asia who could be threats.
If pakistan goes out of our hands, ( recent elections have made PRO TALIBAN back in power) help India kick their a$$ .. they already have last 2 times.
That will also keep a check on China who is stronger than both these two and aspiring for global superpower status
Keeping a check on every nation is our duty.
As far as offering a solution, that is NOT my business.
I am not a paid representative of the US to offer you solutions. Ask your local senator or Congressman .. and go through his bull crap.
Besides, hiring me as your "solutions" consultant will lead your entire family to starvation .. assuming you are middle class in economic hierachy 🙂
What GW Bush wants to do, he will. All I am saying is he does not give a rat's a$$ to what the after effects on his citizens are. It is his call and we have given him all the powers. Only time will say whether he was wrong or right.
If pakistan goes out of our hands, ( recent elections have made PRO TALIBAN back in power) help India kick their a$$ .. they already have last 2 times.
That will also keep a check on China who is stronger than both these two and aspiring for global superpower status
Keeping a check on every nation is our duty.
As far as offering a solution, that is NOT my business.
I am not a paid representative of the US to offer you solutions. Ask your local senator or Congressman .. and go through his bull crap.
Besides, hiring me as your "solutions" consultant will lead your entire family to starvation .. assuming you are middle class in economic hierachy 🙂
What GW Bush wants to do, he will. All I am saying is he does not give a rat's a$$ to what the after effects on his citizens are. It is his call and we have given him all the powers. Only time will say whether he was wrong or right.
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